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Posted by: Archaeopteryx.7409

Archaeopteryx.7409

My main goal in this game is to be a unique player in my Build (or game style), with a unique dye set, etc etc, hence why I rolled Engineer and fell in love, as did a few others I know

Are we still the most uncommon Profession in the Game? Don’t compare us to Warriors, because that’s just completely kittened: would be like comparing an island to the moon.

P.S: I’m talking about over the entire Game as a whole, not just one aspect like WvW.

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Posted by: digitalruse.9085

digitalruse.9085

At lower levels I see a decent amount of engis running around, but the number thins out as you go higher. At level 80 I see few engis.

It is arguably the most unforgiving class in the game, IMHO, and that is a turn off for many players. They actually did statistics of this… let me find… Ah ha! From August 2013:

https://d3b4yo2b5lbfy.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/1c2c9GW2_Anniv_Infographic-590x3215.jpg

We represent about 10% of the players. Tied with Mesmers for least popular. Of note, is that GW2s distribution is remarkably flat. Other MMOs have had clear “winning” classes.

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Posted by: Chaba.5410

Chaba.5410

Yea, but given the current popularity of decap engi in PvP, I bet those stats are changed.

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Posted by: ens.9854

ens.9854

Probably still the rarest since engies aren’t all stars in any game mode except maybe spvp a little

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Posted by: Adamantium.3682

Adamantium.3682

I have pretty much the same philosophy as you do, OP. Have no fear, Engineer is still a special snowflake.

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Posted by: Bombsaway.7198

Bombsaway.7198

No with power creep we are now exotic.
Hambows remain ascended though.

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Posted by: Durganprime.9153

Durganprime.9153

I’m starting to see a rise of new players running them. I have one of every profession and the engi is by far my most played.

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Posted by: Coenraad.8302

Coenraad.8302

I don’t think that chart is very accurate. I believe we have allot more guardians now then shown there.

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Posted by: Chuck Zitto.2367

Chuck Zitto.2367

Engi is still pretty rare in wvw. They are more of the fotm in spvp though than even hambow warriors.

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Posted by: Amethyst Lure.5624

Amethyst Lure.5624

I kind of get the thought process as I tend to gravitate naturally towards less-played classes because I like quirky stuff (which engi definitely is, and mesmer etc…) and quirky is often less played for some reason, -but- sometimes that doesn’t work and I end up playing something popular.

So i just tell myself that no matter what I play, it’ll be unique for me if I actually enjoy it – and then repeat that as a mantra. I’m lucky I don’t like pure warriors – I don’t think even a mantra would save me from struggles there.

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Posted by: Nate.8146

Nate.8146

I’d definitely say we’re a rare bunch. I don’t see many in T1 WvW zerg fights. If I’m there with 40 – 60 guildies, there’s usually only myself and two others I know that main an engineer. PvE often feels the same. At world events, it’s usually just me. Sometimes though, like at the Twisted Marionette event, I did see a lot of engineers. That was about the only time I felt like I was amongst the educated elite. After a year of playing however, I have never come across more than 5 engineers in the same place and doing something crazy, like setup 5 mortars and turrets all over the place. It’s not hard to find 5 heavies or 5 rangers in an area, but 5 engineers is rarer then a precursor

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Posted by: coglin.1867

coglin.1867

This thread reminds me of the old Anet video they made after the game first released and the forums was crammed of threads crying that ascalonian catacombs dungeon was ridiculously difficult (just goes to show you how this forums draws the biggest cry babies and whiners)……At the time engineer was generally considered the weakest profession. They made the video of 5 devs all on engineers clearing the dungeon (I think without a death)……..I know my comment is a bit off topic, but reading this thread just strongly reminded me of that video so I wanted to mention it.

A video on what weak PvPer’s and WvWer’s want.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q3em9s5I4c

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Posted by: Chaba.5410

Chaba.5410

After a year of playing however, I have never come across more than 5 engineers in the same place and doing something crazy, like setup 5 mortars and turrets all over the place.

Probably because you’re not on Fort Aspenwood and a member of NERF. We did stuff like that all the time.

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Posted by: K U T M.4539

K U T M.4539

Lots of engis in pvp, a few in wvw.

In terms of engis who understand the class, yes we are still rare.

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Posted by: HolySylent.8160

HolySylent.8160

I dunno, population charts would show classes are pretty evenly spread.

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Posted by: oZii.2864

oZii.2864

I’m new to Engi but I main Elementalist so I like the extra complexity of pressing buttons. In WvW I don’t see many Engi’s compared to other classes.

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Posted by: Bombsaway.7198

Bombsaway.7198

I main an engineer and play a few other classes. Most groups and guilds in WvW don’t know what an engineer can do and are even more familiar (if less impressed) with a ranger. That is how rare we tend to be in WvW at least on my server.

Of course, when they learn. . . they often appreciate it.

(P.S. Don’t run away from my fumigation).

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Posted by: Yamsandjams.3267

Yamsandjams.3267

I dunno, population charts would show classes are pretty evenly spread.

They have shown such things before though, which showed that engineers were one of the least played, if not the least played, profession. The particular chart I’m thinking of was released quite a while back though, I’m not sure where it’s sitting at currently (possibly in some old forum thread).

I’d say engineers are more common than they used to be though.

If you want to be unqiue in your build, that shouldn’t be hard though. Make a p/p build with full magi gear, put 14 points in all trait lines, and use A.E.D., toss mine, rocket turret, personal battering ram, and mortar. I guarantee you’ll be the only one.

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Posted by: K U T M.4539

K U T M.4539

I dunno, population charts would show classes are pretty evenly spread.

They have shown such things before though, which showed that engineers were one of the least played, if not the least played, profession. The particular chart I’m thinking of was released quite a while back though, I’m not sure where it’s sitting at currently (possibly in some old forum thread).

I’d say engineers are more common than they used to be though.

If you want to be unqiue in your build, that shouldn’t be hard though. Make a p/p build with full magi gear, put 14 points in all trait lines, and use A.E.D., toss mine, rocket turret, personal battering ram, and mortar. I guarantee you’ll be the only one.

Toss mine is legit though, use elixir u instead.

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Posted by: Yamsandjams.3267

Yamsandjams.3267

I dunno, population charts would show classes are pretty evenly spread.

They have shown such things before though, which showed that engineers were one of the least played, if not the least played, profession. The particular chart I’m thinking of was released quite a while back though, I’m not sure where it’s sitting at currently (possibly in some old forum thread).

I’d say engineers are more common than they used to be though.

If you want to be unqiue in your build, that shouldn’t be hard though. Make a p/p build with full magi gear, put 14 points in all trait lines, and use A.E.D., toss mine, rocket turret, personal battering ram, and mortar. I guarantee you’ll be the only one.

Toss mine is legit though, use elixir u instead.

Elixir U is a stun breaker though, and it has projectile reflect walls. Stun breakers and projectile reflect walls are very common. He’s looking for unique.

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Posted by: MrForz.1953

MrForz.1953

Engi’s being rather common especially with the current Living Story. Rolling an engi is the cool thing to do these days.

You wanna be unique? Start with a unique look. To hell with magitech and aetherblade, aswell as the cheesy spinal blades pack.

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Posted by: lakdav.3694

lakdav.3694

Engi’s being rather common especially with the current Living Story. Rolling an engi is the cool thing to do these days.

You wanna be unique? Start with a unique look. To hell with magitech and aetherblade, aswell as the cheesy spinal blades pack.

And be confused for a thief…

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Posted by: Pwent.2639

Pwent.2639

Probably still the rarest since engies aren’t all stars in any game mode except maybe spvp a little

Engi is king of solo roaming (i havent had such an easy time on any other proff). I dont see many doing it though :/ most are mesmers, warriors, and teefs.

That being said im not saying its easy to play just easy to roflstomp everyone once you get it down.

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Posted by: Pwent.2639

Pwent.2639

I dunno, population charts would show classes are pretty evenly spread.

They have shown such things before though, which showed that engineers were one of the least played, if not the least played, profession. The particular chart I’m thinking of was released quite a while back though, I’m not sure where it’s sitting at currently (possibly in some old forum thread).

I’d say engineers are more common than they used to be though.

If you want to be unqiue in your build, that shouldn’t be hard though. Make a p/p build with full magi gear, put 14 points in all trait lines, and use A.E.D., toss mine, rocket turret, personal battering ram, and mortar. I guarantee you’ll be the only one.

:O you know the super hidden 14×5 Magi/gadget build and didnt swear to keep it a secret. Now its going to get nerfed.

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Posted by: Caro.2730

Caro.2730

Mesmer is the least popular class, closely followed by engineer. Both tend to be more used in pvp than pve though.

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Posted by: MrForz.1953

MrForz.1953

Engi is king of solo roaming (i havent had such an easy time on any other proff). I dont see many doing it though :/ most are mesmers, warriors, and teefs.

That being said im not saying its easy to play just easy to roflstomp everyone once you get it down.

It IS, easy to play. Engi’s been known to be hard to handle but any kitten can wield a pistol, a shield, a bomb kit and a tool kit with dire/rabid/settler gear, assuming most of new Engies these days barely look any further than this which is insulting.

It would be the time to stop the whole trend of “Hey I wanted to live dangerously so I dropped my Warrior and went Engi”.

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Posted by: Egon Vidar.9125

Egon Vidar.9125

I’ve been playing since launch, and I play all aspects of the game. We’re not common.

I will say that I have only ever once seen another lvl 80 sylvari engineer, but they might have just managed to sneak by me aside from that guy.

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Posted by: Lightsbane.9012

Lightsbane.9012

if people knew how awesome it was being a Charrmy ranger, there might be more.
See signature! we’re the only ones that the legion system really fits.

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Posted by: Penguin.5197

Penguin.5197

I’ve been playing since launch, and I play all aspects of the game. We’re not common.

I will say that I have only ever once seen another lvl 80 sylvari engineer, but they might have just managed to sneak by me aside from that guy.

Must’ve been Chaba you saw. Shes the only sylvari engineer in existence.

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Posted by: Damethian.2097

Damethian.2097

I’ve been playing since launch, and I play all aspects of the game. We’re not common.

I will say that I have only ever once seen another lvl 80 sylvari engineer, but they might have just managed to sneak by me aside from that guy.

Must’ve been Chaba you saw. Shes the only sylvari engineer in existence.

Not entirely true, I’ve seen a few my own included. My Sylvari Engineer was my first level 80, followed by an Asura Ranger, and a Norn Mesmer. Good times were had on all.

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Posted by: tigirius.9014

tigirius.9014

Part of it is actually due to the problems inherent in the class and some of the nerfs it’s suffered over the time the game’s been out that were never fixed in PVE so you do have to take those considerations into account. It’s not that it’s a bit more difficult to play with certain things (like using 3 buttons to do an AOE heal for example compared to a guardian’s 1 button spam) but more so that certain traits and skills just aren’t on par when compared to other classes. I speak of course only about PVE.

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Posted by: Nullum Nomen.6274

Nullum Nomen.6274

So after the new feature pack are engineers still gong to be least populated? Till now out of all my dungeon runs per week which is about 60 runs per week i see maybe like 1-2 engi. After reading the update engi seems like it might be more fun.

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Posted by: MrForz.1953

MrForz.1953

Why would you bother with any of the new traits compared to what we have now.

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Posted by: SaintSnow.6593

SaintSnow.6593

Engineers are a just a slight bit more popular than they have been but only in the pvp community due to certain builds making a rise. Whether the engineer is good or not is another story. Otherwise it’s still sporadic outside the pvp scene.

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Posted by: coglin.1867

coglin.1867

Why would you bother with any of the new traits compared to what we have now.

Why wouldn’t you. You do not have the slightest clue how they will work with the other incoming changes they haven’t mentioned yet.

A video on what weak PvPer’s and WvWer’s want.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q3em9s5I4c

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Posted by: kyubi.3620

kyubi.3620

well those alchemic turret will be interesting to have with long buff uptime :P

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Posted by: Seras.5702

Seras.5702

Yes, we’re rare. Use a Mystic Salvage kit if level 68 or higher.

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Posted by: pawky.8630

pawky.8630

I’ve been playing since launch, and I play all aspects of the game. We’re not common.

I will say that I have only ever once seen another lvl 80 sylvari engineer, but they might have just managed to sneak by me aside from that guy.

Must’ve been Chaba you saw. Shes the only sylvari engineer in existence.

Not entirely true, I’ve seen a few my own included. My Sylvari Engineer was my first level 80, followed by an Asura Ranger, and a Norn Mesmer. Good times were had on all.

It’s the only combo that I feel at home with. I’ve tried everything else and never made it past 30.

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Posted by: EllyBean.6485

EllyBean.6485

Yes we are but that’s okay. Other professions haven’t figured us out entirely so it’s nice to pull something out of our sleeves once in a while and get people to say, “wtf was that?! how’d you do that??”

We’re a rare breed…I rarely see any in T1 WvW. There’s one guildie besides me who plays an engineer as a main.

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Posted by: Bombsaway.7198

Bombsaway.7198

We are misunderstood a lot. Even in my guild there is a sense of trying to figure out our role.

When I add that I can provide great stealth you can almost see the blank stares.
Or when they praise the elementalists (all down) for water but it was a healing turret. . . .
Or when the light field is from the elixir gun and the blasts from all my toys.
And don’t get me started on what confusion gets sown when I respect to a healing engineer.

One thing I personally find people do get about engineers is our ability to add confusion and burning.

We are a great utility class and that is very powerful in WvW. Keeping one engineer up provides a small zerg serious “uh oh” utility. Are we as good as four classes combined? Not really, but how many times have you seen the ele go down and there went the water? How many times is the guardian not near the range and there goes the condition removal? How many times have you seen Mesmer’s portal go down but there is need for a quick stealth so you can stomp or get away or revive?

The versatility of the engineer is what makes them such a good addition to a team and what makes them so hard for other players to wrap their arms around the role.

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Posted by: Benjamin.8237

Benjamin.8237

In PvE and WvW yes. I believe at least 80% of the engineer profession play PvP, which is where you will find one or two every game.

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Posted by: Doomdesire.9365

Doomdesire.9365

Engis are rampant in sPvP since it’s such an easy yet rewarding class to play if you know how to use grenades but in WvW outside of roaming there is no usefulness. Probably why you see so many low level engis, because they are spvp characters.