I personally think engineer has an advantage on damage scaling. The matchup between a lot of my characters, the scrapper damage has a ton of damage that needs to be looked at in PvP and WvW. What are ya’ll thoughts? Do you think Engineer is a bit strong on the damage, and/or has a bit too much sustain? Maybe a cooldown reduction on the heal skill, or damage reduction on the hammer. It’s nearly impossible to beat.
The damage of a scrapper is totally fine and on pair with other classes. The sustain heal is very good but was already nerfed last patch. It’s still nice but nothing overpowered imo.
I only play my Engineers occasionally and have found from both playing them and fighting them that they aren’t any more or less powerful than the majority of roaming classes in WvW.
The issue I’ve found is that some classes are just slightly underpowered in comparison to Engie and most other classes. Necro and Ranger are currently lacking in the power department, they work, but they don’t pack as much of a punch as the rest.
The main balance issue with scrapper is projectile reflect uptime (it’s over the top when coupled with the blocks and evades on the hammer). Im pretty sure the bulwark gyro toolbelt is bugged to last longer (at least visually) than it should.
Scrapper is not poweful like allmighty berserker now. But it is very well balanced and counter almost all classes like all classes should counter him.
OP classes: druid, herald, dd, *BERSERKER, all condition builds (wvw and pvp)
Normal(fairly balanced): Reaper, Scrapper, Chrono, Tempest.
UP: DH, all base specs – excluding condition.
berserker is 1st pick in wvw roaming cause it can solo everything with full hp.
*all condi builds need to be toned down
***separate all 3 modes to balance properly
I personally think engineer has an advantage on damage scaling. The matchup between a lot of my characters, the scrapper damage has a ton of damage that needs to be looked at in PvP and WvW. What are ya’ll thoughts? Do you think Engineer is a bit strong on the damage, and/or has a bit too much sustain? Maybe a cooldown reduction on the heal skill, or damage reduction on the hammer. It’s nearly impossible to beat.
I personally think engineer has an advantage on damage scaling. The matchup between a lot of my characters, the scrapper damage has a ton of damage that needs to be looked at in PvP and WvW. What are ya’ll thoughts? Do you think Engineer is a bit strong on the damage, and/or has a bit too much sustain? Maybe a cooldown reduction on the heal skill, or damage reduction on the hammer. It’s nearly impossible to beat.
This is so situational. When I run thief, I steer far away from scrappers unless I can +1. But on a necromancer I 1v1 them and almost always win.
Yannir for males. (guard,thief,war,ele)
Sonya for females. (necro,rev,ranger,mes,engi)
All classes lvl 80.
With the nerf to slick shoes, securing kills as an Engi has become much harder.
The sustain might be over the top, but the damage really isn’t. When I play or play against Scrappers in WvW the sustain helps keeping the fight in stall, but I noticed that a lot of the times the Engi lacks what it’s needed to end it.
Especially on my Warrior, I can keep the Scrapper engaged until I can catch an interrupt or the Scrapper simply makes a mistake, and put him on the back foot or straight up finish him off.
It has to start somewhere. It has to start sometime.
What better place than here? What better time than now?
With the nerf to slick shoes, securing kills as an Engi has become much harder.
The sustain might be over the top, but the damage really isn’t. When I play or play against Scrappers in WvW the sustain helps keeping the fight in stall, but I noticed that a lot of the times the Engi lacks what it’s needed to end it.
Especially on my Warrior, I can keep the Scrapper engaged until I can catch an interrupt or the Scrapper simply makes a mistake, and put him on the back foot or straight up finish him off.
Warrior can beat anyone in 1v1 now with no effort.
if you can condi a warrior on a condi build then CC him, block and kite you can have decent 1v1 against them. ON my build if they land onehit I’m toast though. It has to be played perfect.
With the nerf to slick shoes, securing kills as an Engi has become much harder.
The sustain might be over the top, but the damage really isn’t. When I play or play against Scrappers in WvW the sustain helps keeping the fight in stall, but I noticed that a lot of the times the Engi lacks what it’s needed to end it.
Especially on my Warrior, I can keep the Scrapper engaged until I can catch an interrupt or the Scrapper simply makes a mistake, and put him on the back foot or straight up finish him off.
Warrior can beat anyone in 1v1 now with no effort.
Shame that wars can’t fight/hold 2 decent players at once like scrapper, neither he can go stealth to avoid being loaded with condis/CC
Warrior can beat anyone in 1v1 now with no effort.
Nah. Not anyone, and not without effort.
It feels strong because we’ve all been so used to it being utter garbage for quite a while. It still has pretty glaring weaknesses and less sustain than other specializations, though it can deal pretty great damage to compensate.
It’s a bad matchup for Scrapper because War is more balanced between sustain and damage, while Scrapper currently has way better sustain but not enough damage to be really impactful – meaning the fight either stalls forever or the Scrapper eventually loses ground.
It has to start somewhere. It has to start sometime.
What better place than here? What better time than now?
My condi scrapper with Rabid and undead is doing just fine against warriors… will have to wait till the chaff gets weeded out though and I can be sure I’m playing moderately good players. Actually initial tests show my build has been pretty effective at most things while not having quite the escapes and ability to contend point against multiple opponents that the older metas did. I am not sold on this gyro thing.
Lol…you guys can effortlessly have a longer period stealth longer than thieves…We have nothing if we try to continue to stay stealth, all initiative is gone. What a joke.
Lol…you guys can effortlessly have a longer period stealth longer than thieves…We have nothing if we try to continue to stay stealth, all initiative is gone. What a joke.
Yeah… but with a big sign that says “drop all aoe here, please” following us the whole time…
Hit Monleee – 80 engi
Cubones Mother – 80 mes
Jade Quarry [Uhhh]
Lol…you guys can effortlessly have a longer period stealth longer than thieves…We have nothing if we try to continue to stay stealth, all initiative is gone. What a joke.
… and do what with it? Thieves actually benefit from their stealth. What do Scrappers get? The novelty of walking around invisible. WOW! better nerf that.
yet another example of a thread where someone does not make a critical evaluation of a whole class when calling for nerfs. Just the odd skill here an there.
Lol…you guys can effortlessly have a longer period stealth longer than thieves…We have nothing if we try to continue to stay stealth, all initiative is gone. What a joke.
… and do what with it? Thieves actually benefit from their stealth. What do Scrappers get? The novelty of walking around invisible. WOW! better nerf that.
yet another example of a thread where someone does not make a critical evaluation of a whole class when calling for nerfs. Just the odd skill here an there.
scrapper stleath gyro meants: please aoe here for free win, theres a possible reason ive used the stealth gyro due having low health.
or a DH can pull the gyro out of scrapper positon with their f1, funny to see scrapper loosing the gyro that way XD
1st April joke, when gw2 receives a “balance” update.
