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Posted by: Daedolon.4583

Daedolon.4583

Why can the Engineer throw grenades further than there rifles shoot with skills set for maximum distance on both of them?
Does anyone know why they have had to set it up like this?
( I play as Engineer, this always just seem odd to me. )

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Posted by: Dawdler.8521

Dawdler.8521

Yeah. Because they got very beefy arms and because its not a rifle. Its a shotgun. Sure it looks like a rifle, sounds like a rifle and stats say its a rifle… but its still a shotgun thats aimed from the hip.

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Posted by: Arkinos.7245

Arkinos.7245

Not so hard with Rifle being effectively a melee weapon…

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Posted by: Daedolon.4583

Daedolon.4583

( I’ve own real thing.) The ingame rifle/shootgun should still shoot further that your character can throw a grenade Its physics people.
I think throwing on Ground level distance should be 900,
From on a building it should become 1200 distance,
If from building 2nd level or higher max out at 1500 distance for throwing

(edited by Daedolon.4583)

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Posted by: Jerus.4350

Jerus.4350

Have you seen how Engi’s shoot their rifles? They really aren’t aiming. So it’s not so much as the bullet doesn’t travel that far, it’s just that they’ll likely miss after that distance. Their nades on the other hand, they ahve really good aim on those

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Posted by: DigitalKirin.9714

DigitalKirin.9714

Next Engineer Update: Due to popular demand, Engineer grenades have been rebalanced to 600 range to make them more realistic.

I like to think that the general populace tends to make things worse when they bring up issues like this.

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Posted by: Tenrai Senshi.2017

Tenrai Senshi.2017

When we’re talking about a game where you can set dust storms on fire, blind bats and bleed earth elementals, or where you can fall from 3 stories + height and live, I think it becomes clear that realism was not the goal here as far as game mechanics were concerned.

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Posted by: CobaltSixty.1542

CobaltSixty.1542

When we’re talking about a game where you can set dust storms on fire, blind bats and bleed earth elementals, or where you can fall from 3 stories + height and live, I think it becomes clear that realism was not the goal here as far as game mechanics were concerned.

Bats have amazing vision.

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Posted by: metaldude.4132

metaldude.4132

Stop pointing out to reality in this game!!! LOL

(seriously..this is the same answer I got in-game when we were blasting Taida Covington’s metal door..I suggested why we are trying to blow up a steel door while it is fitted in an WOODEN fence…LMAO)

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Posted by: Novuake.2691

Novuake.2691

“Rifles” are not Rifles.

This is essentially older tech which is closure to a Blunderbus or Musket.
Not that in game stuffies like this need or warrant explaining.

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Posted by: Takoyakii.2146

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When we’re talking about a game where you can set dust storms on fire, blind bats and bleed earth elementals, or where you can fall from 3 stories + height and live, I think it becomes clear that realism was not the goal here as far as game mechanics were concerned.

And the game that diving into really shallow water from really frickin high place doesn’t kill you.

I love that…so screw realism.

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Posted by: Rockinrobot.8539

Rockinrobot.8539

With no target lock on the engineer grenades are garbage.

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Posted by: Zaoda.1653

Zaoda.1653

The distance of nades are fine. If anything, I wish there was an auto attack for them. I hate constantly spamming #1 skill in the direction I want it to go – yeah it’s handy in some cases, but not the majority of the time. If I want to attack said player, just allow me to keep firing those nades at them – don’t make me have to constantly follow wherever they go and press #1 every second >_<

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Posted by: Lifestealer.4910

Lifestealer.4910

With no target lock on the engineer grenades are garbage.

Not sure if serious…

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Posted by: Novuake.2691

Novuake.2691

With no target lock on the engineer grenades are garbage.

Not sure if serious…

Me neither…

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Posted by: joe.7684

joe.7684

When we’re talking about a game where you can set dust storms on fire, blind bats and bleed earth elementals, or where you can fall from 3 stories + height and live, I think it becomes clear that realism was not the goal here as far as game mechanics were concerned.

Bats have amazing vision.

There have also been recorded instances of people falling from 3 stories and surviving. Of course, it helps if they have something to land on to break the fall.

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Posted by: Taerik.3405

Taerik.3405

With no target lock on the engineer grenades are garbage.

Not sure if serious…

Me neither…

He is serious, he has started threads and posted in multiple places his nonsense belief that nades should be target lock.

He also does not read any replies, he posts his side, and then will later repost his same argument and will not read/comprehend/consider any argument, I recommend you ignore him since he ignores us.

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Posted by: coglin.1867

coglin.1867

When we’re talking about a game where you can set dust storms on fire, blind bats and bleed earth elementals, or where you can fall from 3 stories + height and live, I think it becomes clear that realism was not the goal here as far as game mechanics were concerned.

This kind of sums it up there OP.

But if you really want to make a real life comparison. in a fight to the death, I will take 3 grenades at 40 yards against a guy shooting from the hip with a rifle, any day.

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Posted by: Tenrai Senshi.2017

Tenrai Senshi.2017

When we’re talking about a game where you can set dust storms on fire, blind bats and bleed earth elementals, or where you can fall from 3 stories + height and live, I think it becomes clear that realism was not the goal here as far as game mechanics were concerned.

Bats have amazing vision.

Irrespective of what kind of vision they have, bats use echolocation to navigate and hunt prey in the dark. So technically speaking, blinding them wouldn’t prevent them from being able to locate and hit you.

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Posted by: Rockinrobot.8539

Rockinrobot.8539

I’m deadly serious target lock on would make the grenades much more deadly.

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Posted by: ArrDee.2573

ArrDee.2573

Engineer bombs placed at our feet don’t blow our legs off! Stop bringing logic into this!

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Posted by: Bubi.5237

Bubi.5237

I’m deadly serious target lock on would make the grenades much more deadly.

You forgot one thing: It would be much more deadly for the engineer
(Can’t throw behind your back? Can’t throw to random location where the enemy will be in 2 seconds? Too bad, you have target lock on~ )
As long as grenade’s speed is not the same as a traited ranger’s bow, I vote NO for target lock.

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Posted by: bastiondg.1058

bastiondg.1058

I’m deadly serious target lock on would make the grenades much more deadly.

Perhaps you just need to learn how to use them better?

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Posted by: robertul.3679

robertul.3679

How can shrinking yourself makes you invulnerable? Shouldn’t you be more squishy?
How can you even shrink yourself? You can’t shrink atoms! The only way would be to reduce the number of them. That would totally break the geometry.
How do our characters even survive without constant food or sleep?
What is the meaning of life?

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Posted by: Jerus.4350

Jerus.4350

How can shrinking yourself makes you invulnerable? Shouldn’t you be more squishy?
How can you even shrink yourself? You can’t shrink atoms! The only way would be to reduce the number of them. That would totally break the geometry.
How do our characters even survive without constant food or sleep?
What is the meaning of life?

YOu’re an engineer. You figured out a way to manipulate what is mostly empty space in an atom to let them shrink and condense. In doing so, you not only made yourself small and hard to hit but also made yourself incredibly dense and hard to destroy.

Mhm, that’s my story and I’m sticking to it :b

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Posted by: MiniEquine.6014

MiniEquine.6014

How can shrinking yourself makes you invulnerable? Shouldn’t you be more squishy?
How can you even shrink yourself? You can’t shrink atoms! The only way would be to reduce the number of them. That would totally break the geometry.
How do our characters even survive without constant food or sleep?
What is the meaning of life?

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Posted by: Donatello.4139

Donatello.4139

I think we need ammo management too. Rifles use bullets and Bows use arrows but where do the characters get all the ammo?

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Posted by: Bubi.5237

Bubi.5237

I think we need ammo management too. Rifles use bullets and Bows use arrows but where do the characters get all the ammo?

We have ammo in our HOBOSACK!

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Posted by: Sorel.4870

Sorel.4870

I’m deadly serious target lock on would make the grenades much more deadly.

Ranger spotted.