Guild Wars 2

When the new feature pack came out with new craftable back pieces, I was like “Yay! I can’t wait to craft them all!” But then sadness came over me as I remembered that my main, my Engi, wouldn’t be able to show them off. And she’s the one with the majority of high leveled crafting professions!

Good thing we got these new back pieces that cost resources to make but can’t see

NoxInfernus.2361:

Then it’s a case by case basis, because before the patch my spinal back piece ‘wings’ would clip through my kit packs terribly (didn’t mind too much as the effect was kind of cool).
Now, when I wear my FT kit all traces of the spinal are gone until I stow the kit.

Tested on my 2nd Engineer with a variety of other pack pieces (slick pack, jet pack, gem shop, etc) – All traces of clipping are gone.
I admit I do not have the SAB back piece, so maybe they forgot about that one.

Both before and after the patch, I’ve had times when my backpiece doesn’t render at all, and therefore doesn’t clip with hobosacks when they’re out, until it eventually loads and you can see it (at which point it clips). This is not a new change; it’s a bug? that existed before the patch.

Please Anet give us some updates about that… It’s really annoying to have your look ruined everytime you use a kit since guildwars as always been about look for me. This as been going on for a year now its mindblowing!

The problem is, the recent patch just made it WORSE((

Xyonon.3987:

The problem is, the recent patch just made it WORSE((

wouldnt say that. The clipping got reduced.. well its still there but thats already a good start. We are halfway there.. now just reverse the script.. and we got it.

Just delete the hobo sack! I think I would pay 2000 gems for a “hobo sack disabler” or whatever you want to call it. Just remove that kitten from the game!

Nico.6015:

Just delete the hobo sack! I think I would pay 2000 gems for a “hobo sack disabler” or whatever you want to call it. Just remove that kitten from the game!

I would pay 10k gems, really – but i’m swiss so it doesnt count :O xD

:(

Hobosack’s reducing fun since launch!

I noticed this thread was almost hitting the second page.

Not on my watch.

Eastcorn.5901:

I noticed this thread was almost hitting the second page.

Not on my watch.

Nice work there

Seems hopeless but wow I hate the clownpacks/hobosacks.

ANet do you still work on this? Do you still read this? Do you love us in the slightest???

The frost spirit “change” was fixed in what? 1 week? I get that it was easier to do but still. It’s been 2 years. No legendary effects(at least auras!), still hobosacks.. We even have standard models for pvp. There is no excuse..

Frost spirit change was up for eternity.

I meant the way it was corrected to match the broken tooltip. Arguably broken though.
Don’t get me wrong, I am very glad they removed the icd like it was before. It made rangers viable in pve again.

http://www.danamadeit.com/2008/07/tutorial-the-hobo-sack.html

go on, people, craft your own and send the pictures to support!

tanztante.6532:

http://www.danamadeit.com/2008/07/tutorial-the-hobo-sack.html

go on, people, craft your own and send the pictures to support!

http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/scale_small/1/17172/1386294-trashbag.jpg

done

Please,

As an Engee I have no desire to pursue legendaries, OR back pieces because our cosmetic-mechanics.

Please A-net

It would make Quaggans all around Tyria coo in happiness!

Maybe this thread doesn’t get any mod attention because there has already been a post, so they think it’s has been handled?

I think they look. I don’t think they care. Even if they did, they couldn’t tell us anything.

Errr.. I have 2500+ hours on my engi and the decorative jetpack skin aaaaand I like the hobosacks :X

I never realized people hated them this much, never heard any engineer complain about them outside of this post. Oh well, good luck, I’m at least happy either way, haha.

Well they fit if you have no back item that looks completly different and if you use brown and dirty iron dyes for your Engi. Yet if you use some aetherblade or magic or futuristic outfit with let’s say bright colors, super adventure box stuff or spinal wings, etc. Then you are gonna lay down, hug yourself and cry – cry like a little baby who lost it’s candy.

honestsly, something like the the tal rasha set in diablo 2 would make me happy. Showing, that as an engi, i made a legendary.

bump…… fix this please anet.

I’ve taken to simply not using kits anymore.
I’m personally using a Gadgets build right now. Besides, I’d have a hard time living without Throw Mine and Rocket Boots.
Way too much fun.

Kitten Kits.

I recolored my engi to fit to the hobosacks now.
I am one with the torment.
I am one with my inner peace.
Oooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmm.

Arantheal.7396:

I recolored my engi to fit to the hobosacks now.
I am one with the torment.
I am one with my inner peace.
Oooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmm.

The way hobosacks clip into your head makes it quite easy to “become one” with it…

Arantheal.7396:

I recolored my engi to fit to the hobosacks now.
I am one with the torment.
I am one with my inner peace.
Oooooooooooommmmmmmmmmmm.

Was kind of excited when I started my engi but the first thing I did was spend 10 minutes trying to disable the awful hobo bag… Not cool guys…

Dasenthal.6520:

Was kind of excited when I started my engi but the first thing I did was spend 10 minutes trying to disable the awful hobo bag… Not cool guys…

well.. we try to disable that thing since 1 and a half year. Welcome to the club.. cookies are to your right, ignorance of the devs to your left.. suit yourself

If you need a tissue – I’m sorry they are all out of order …

spot the difference …

hint: all the gold i ever had

#nohobo2014

I’d love a three-way toggle; back item only, hobosack only, or both (LET EM CLIP). I know I’m in the tiniest minority, but the way my elixir gun hobosack clips with my spinal blades makes it look like I’m wearing some kind of mechanical beetle on my back, and I can’t think of anything better.

People calm down, are you calm now?
Good, now start preparing party hats for next anniversary of this thread!

Cold Hearted Person.6154:

People calm down, are you calm now?
Good, now start preparing party hats for next anniversary of this thread!

Holy crap… in just a few more months we’ll be at the 2 year mark! 0_o

Man… time flies when Devs pretend you don’t exist. >_>

Almost 2 years after launch and I still can’t throw my money at a-net for useless skins.
Thx, based project-lead.

Looked back here after a long time. Seems like Anet still doesn’t care about us engineers.

Krosan.2890:

Looked back here after a long time. Seems like Anet still doesn’t care about us engineers.

that’s not it. they generally don’t care about anything.

Cerxi.5472:

I’d love a three-way toggle; back item only, hobosack only, or both (LET EM CLIP). I know I’m in the tiniest minority, but the way my elixir gun hobosack clips with my spinal blades makes it look like I’m wearing some kind of mechanical beetle on my back, and I can’t think of anything better.

+1

I hate how each time I equip my flamethrower, I have to go check/uncheck to show my backpiece. I want to see my spinal blades and sack at the same time, it looks BA! It used to show the backpiece again after using an ability, now it doesn’t do it at all unless you manually do it.

So yes:

A toggle to show back piece.
A toggle to show hobo sack.
A toggle to hide backpiece while hobo sack is out.

That’s all we ask for.

I was thinking of creating a Charr but I don’t know after reading this. Should I just choose the monocle instead? What does choosing the backpack even do?

All choosing any of them does is give you a particular skin, and a particular starting item that gives a very minor defensive boost.

Whoever kind of heads up this movement, I have a thought out suggestion.

Let’s keep this going, but I also propose someone start a thread in profession balance.

Topic: “Hobosacks don’t influence balance.”

If we make good discussion there, there’s a chance it will be seen.

Basically, the point of the thread will show that they can remove hobosaks without fear of imbalance.

Maybe that’s the hurdle we should get over. So. Who will do it? Whoever does it, please post the link here and we need to make strong arguments.

I recall making a thread basically polling the userbase on their opinion on whether Hobosacks were useful from a foe’s viewpoint. The response was pretty much “Nope. They switch too often, too fast, and there’s too much going on – besides, some of them look almost identical.”

Other than that, I don’t…think anybody really heads this ‘movement.’

Mbelch.9028:

Whoever kind of heads up this movement, I have a thought out suggestion.

Let’s keep this going, but I also propose someone start a thread in profession balance.

Topic: “Hobosacks don’t influence balance.”

If we make good discussion there, there’s a chance it will be seen.

Basically, the point of the thread will show that they can remove hobosaks without fear of imbalance.

Maybe that’s the hurdle we should get over. So. Who will do it? Whoever does it, please post the link here and we need to make strong arguments.

I opened a thread similair to this recently in this sub forum, as I myself think as well their biggest gripe with removing the hobosacks is “balance issues”.
Feel free to charm in if you have thoughts and suggestions how developers can keep the balance and remove them once and for good.

The devs had an idea – elementalist-style icons, and maybe the fanny pack thing (which would’ve inevitably been a stupid, half-finished, aesthetics-disrupting thing anyway, just as the original Hobosacks are).
They just never followed through with it and won’t so much as tell us if they’re working on it due to their Ivory Tower-esque communications policy – well, barring these two posts:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/engineer/Problems-with-Engineers-and-Legendaries/page/3#post1824137
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/engineer/Hobo-Sacks-A-Terrible-Fashion-Statement/page/5#post2539351

Summation of the first: “Our resources are on wider-reaching projects like [things that mostly have been implemented already], but I totally feel ya, my main is an Engineer! Love to hear your ideas!”
For loving to hear our ideas, ArenaNet certainly didn’t love talking about them – not a single red post ever found its way to the thread after that.

Summation of the second: “Yeah, this bugs me, too. I’ll see what we can sneak in between projects like the ones Johanson mentioned.”
Turns out they could sneak absolutely nothing in, or so I’d assume given that it’s been ‘about a year.’ I’m not even sure Freist still works for Anet, or if he’s on the same team.

One way or another, I just don’t think Anet cares. I used to. Even used to think the game was going to go cool places – instead, we get bad writing, mostly temporary content, a proliferation of the very things this issue keeps us from enjoying, and stupid, stupid things like “Oh, that fun little thing that never had anything to do with the narrative doesn’t fit into the narrative, but taking a three-month break in the wake of an attack on the leader of a faction at a summit to discuss responding to the attacker totally does.”

At this point, I’m really doubting that it’s anything about balance that’s keeping them from getting rid of hobosacks. I’m not being particularly coherent, but that’s the point.

This thread isn’t falling to the second page. Not happening.
Maybe we should start coming up with propaganda? Slap a hobosack on holiday mascots? Crying baby quaggans with the sacks on?

Anymras.5729:

This thread isn’t falling to the second page. Not happening.
Maybe we should start coming up with propaganda? Slap a hobosack on holiday mascots? Crying baby quaggans with the sacks on?

Need heartbreaking testimonials too.

“Becky was my best friend. She used to be a happy, popular girl until one night she tried on a hobosack at a party. She died instantly. Please, don’t use hobosacks. It’s the most dangerous type of sack out there. Please don’t wind up like Becky.”

Necrotize.2974:

Anymras.5729:

This thread isn’t falling to the second page. Not happening.
Maybe we should start coming up with propaganda? Slap a hobosack on holiday mascots? Crying baby quaggans with the sacks on?

Need heartbreaking testimonials too.

“Becky was my best friend. She used to be a happy, popular girl until one night she tried on a hobosack at a party. She died instantly. Please, don’t use hobosacks. It’s the most dangerous type of sack out there. Please don’t wind up like Becky.”

hobosacks…not even once

Well done ANet. Such a customer service. Terrific.

Wir trampeln durchs Getreide,
Wir trampeln duch die Saat.
Hurra, wir verblöden.
Für uns bezahlt der Staat.

also bump.

First post: about a year ago

lol