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Posted by: Vagrant.7206

Vagrant.7206

Why? What’s the reasoning?

Also, can we point out this juicy tidbit from the patch notes?

Mark Katzbach

In this update, we have taken a look at a few underperforming weapons for the warrior: rifle and torch. […] The rifle lacks in sustained pressure because three of its abilities focused on utility.

People have been complaining about engineer rifle for over 2 years (We only have 3 core weapons), but it’s warrior rifle that needs updating.

The great god Lagki demands sacrifice.

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Posted by: UnitedChaos.8364

UnitedChaos.8364

Ranger was included for laughs. The axe changes changed nothing and and just further illustrate the lack of understanding.

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Posted by: shadowpass.4236

shadowpass.4236

Ranger was included for laughs. The axe changes changed nothing and and just further illustrate the lack of understanding.

Couldn’t agree more.

I was a power ranger before it was cool.
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Posted by: logan.5846

logan.5846

It wasn’t really a balance patch, they were mostly minor tweaks.

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Posted by: Sarahfull.4930

Sarahfull.4930

Atlest we didn’t get nerf I guess

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Posted by: Exciton.8942

Exciton.8942

I thought they would do something to the hilarious might application to phantasm through sword 5 for mesmers.

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Posted by: Eastcorn.5901

Eastcorn.5901

I didn’t expect much mid-season, honestly.
I am really not feeling the urge to play PvP much thanks to this boring meta.

And yeah the might stacks on phantasm still confuses the hell out of me…

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Posted by: insanemaniac.2456

insanemaniac.2456

Thief was included for laughs too. lol choking gas. that nerf could be seen coming a million miles away.

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Posted by: Phineas Poe.3018

Phineas Poe.3018

Most of these changes were pretty minor, and probably won’t change the meta at all in the grand scheme. Sword/torch berserker is still going to just be an unranked troll build, and bunker guardian is still too slow to replace druid, tempest, or scrapper.

[EG] Ethereal Guardians

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Posted by: scorekeeper.6524

scorekeeper.6524

Phineas, I think his point is that if these buffs/nerfs are useless, than why waste time on them at all? He’s right in pointing out that the Devs feel Warrior rifle needs a tweak, yet Engi rifle doesn’t? It’s like they are trolling us on purpose now.

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Posted by: Phineas Poe.3018

Phineas Poe.3018

Phineas, I think his point is that if these buffs/nerfs are useless, than why waste time on them at all? He’s right in pointing out that the Devs feel Warrior rifle needs a tweak, yet Engi rifle doesn’t? It’s like they are trolling us on purpose now.

I don’t think the situation is as dire for us. Warrior doesn’t even have one viable build in platinum-ranked PvP or the daily/monthly ATs.

I’ve voiced my issues regarding the scrapper’s lack of identity and the state of PvP numerously, especially given this is the seventh season and all I’ve really changed between now and season one is my amulet and one utility skill … but at the end of the day scrapper is still one of the best professions to solo queue even in platinum with and had healthy representation in Jebro’s Unity tournament in both NA and EU.

I’m honestly relieved that scrapper has been left alone, seeing that it’s received mostly nothing but nerfs since Heart of Thorns launched in the first place. I’d rather they just focus their energy on holosmith at this point and leave our rifle alone.

[EG] Ethereal Guardians

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Posted by: Frost.5017

Frost.5017

Phineas, I think his point is that if these buffs/nerfs are useless, than why waste time on them at all? He’s right in pointing out that the Devs feel Warrior rifle needs a tweak, yet Engi rifle doesn’t? It’s like they are trolling us on purpose now.

Keep in mind that HoT power creep was intentional and we’ll likely see more of the same philosophy with HoT 2.0 design philosophy. That’s to say if rifle is too weak to be used following HoT, it most certainly will be too weak following HoT 2.0.

Personally, I think it feels pretty bad to have a such a disparity in power level between the core and expansion because in the context of GW2 there’s such a large amount of unusable garbage (traits, skills) already. It leaves such an incredibly small space for players who like to tinker/optimize/experiment builds to do so. Intentionally designing in a step change in power level just puts all those garbage skills/traits even further away from being tweaked up to even potential or corner-case usefulness. Rifle is a relic of the past, and that’s quite likely where Anet’s going to leave it.

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Posted by: Vagrant.7206

Vagrant.7206

I don’t think the situation is as dire for us. Warrior doesn’t even have one viable build in platinum-ranked PvP or the daily/monthly ATs.

You’re kidding right? I see these three builds ALL the time:

I just lost a match to a Ragezerker in platinum.

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Posted by: scorekeeper.6524

scorekeeper.6524

I’m honestly relieved that scrapper has been left alone.

Me too, because every time we’re in a patch notes, it’s us getting the nerf bat more often than not.

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Posted by: tigirius.9014

tigirius.9014

Why? What’s the reasoning?

Also, can we point out this juicy tidbit from the patch notes?

Mark Katzbach

In this update, we have taken a look at a few underperforming weapons for the warrior: rifle and torch. […] The rifle lacks in sustained pressure because three of its abilities focused on utility.

People have been complaining about engineer rifle for over 2 years (We only have 3 core weapons), but it’s warrior rifle that needs updating.

Completely agree as someone who plays multiple classes the engineer rifle has been under performing for years now.

Secondly, the melee being a new thing on the engineer needs major look at traits to either provide a huge toughness boost or a healing boost one would think that since it is a relatively new build to have a 2 hander on the engineer class you would work more on it rather than ignore it entirely.

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