Guild Wars 2

Where are you? Condi engi is everywhere in lfg for raids but I haven’t seen a hammer or rifle engi since hot launched. I’m dying to use my engi again, but I wanna use scrapper…

Scrapper is very strong. I mostly play condition in raids indeed, but whenever we have enough condition players I just go power scrapper. It is very viable. Also slick shoes can come in very handy against break bars.
Power scrapper can also fill in the role as a tank very very well. Just trait in for some personal healing on super speed and you should be fine.

The only aspect of scrapper that’s worth anything in PvE is traits, mass momentum and perfectly weighted in particular. Everything else is flat out worse than the same old pistol/pistol condi build.

thread title: pve
thread subject: raids

oh well

Power scrapper is extremly strong in pve. People overestimate condi engi at this point due DnT dps sheets that say “condi is 22k, power is 20k dps”. Yet some things have changed since then.

Open World and Dungeons
In open world and dungeons, everything that is downscaled, the power scrapper is better than the condi engi, since viper means expertice and that gets downscaled too compared to sinister. Also the new maps barely have mobs that stand still in napalm or fire bombs, especially chak just run away from aoes.

Fractals
In fractals right now condi engi is probably superior past 50ties. Low level the power scrapper is much better due low toughness. At 50~ the condi will have slightly better damage in long fights, but against all the trash the power scrapper is better. For skips etc, sneak gyro, for utility all the new reflection stuff and aoe etc – overall the scrapper with power is a much more powerful ally in fotm than a pure dps 0 utility condi engi. After december, condi engi is probably dead for fotm.

Raids
In raids the bosses have LOW toughness wich favours the power professions. All the dps calculations are against MEDIUM toughness enemies. The condi engis are rare, and needed for VG, but after the 3 condi engis, every additional engi should be a power scrapper due to superior dps, cc, break bar destruction and utility in general.

Btw condi engi at VG? No thank you. The condi scrapper with traits 112 and medic gyro instead of HT is superior in terms of mobility due super speed, protection in damage phases where you don’t want to interrupt or green fields in danger zones and more heal for scrapper fellows at red wenn you want to save cc but seekers are near.

The old condi engi, has barely a place in the game right now. Yet people have to realize it first. It’s a mass of sheeps out there who encourage themselves with what they are doing, but barely one of them looks beyond the horizon and tries to kill their darlings to improve.

greez
- Ziggy

Xyonon.3987:

Power scrapper is extremly strong in pve. People overestimate condi engi at this point due DnT dps sheets that say “condi is 22k, power is 20k dps”. Yet some things have changed since then.

---

Open World and Dungeons
In open world and dungeons, everything that is downscaled, the power scrapper is better than the condi engi, since viper means expertice and that gets downscaled too compared to sinister. Also the new maps barely have mobs that stand still in napalm or fire bombs, especially chak just run away from aoes.

---

Fractals
In fractals right now condi engi is probably superior past 50ties. Low level the power scrapper is much better due low toughness. At 50~ the condi will have slightly better damage in long fights, but against all the trash the power scrapper is better. For skips etc, sneak gyro, for utility all the new reflection stuff and aoe etc – overall the scrapper with power is a much more powerful ally in fotm than a pure dps 0 utility condi engi. After december, condi engi is probably dead for fotm.

---

Raids
In raids the bosses have LOW toughness wich favours the power professions. All the dps calculations are against MEDIUM toughness enemies. The condi engis are rare, and needed for VG, but after the 3 condi engis, every additional engi should be a power scrapper due to superior dps, cc, break bar destruction and utility in general.

Btw condi engi at VG? No thank you. The condi scrapper with traits 112 and medic gyro instead of HT is superior in terms of mobility due super speed, protection in damage phases where you don’t want to interrupt or green fields in danger zones and more heal for scrapper fellows at red wenn you want to save cc but seekers are near.

---

The old condi engi, has barely a place in the game right now. Yet people have to realize it first. It’s a mass of sheeps out there who encourage themselves with what they are doing, but barely one of them looks beyond the horizon and tries to kill their darlings to improve.

greez
- Ziggy

Very informative post ty

Daralii.8940:

The only aspect of scrapper that’s worth anything in PvE is traits, mass momentum and perfectly weighted in particular. Everything else is flat out worse than the same old pistol/pistol condi build.

Gotta agree with ya.

I’m sorry, but when my rifle is hitting anywhere between 2650 and 4800+ without might
and my hammer at best hits for 1000-1382, it’s pretty cut and dry right there.

Scrapper was built for pvp and nothing else.

RollFzzlbeef.4092:

I’m sorry, but when my rifle is hitting anywhere between 2650 and 4800+ without might
and my hammer at best hits for 1000-1382, it’s pretty cut and dry right there.

If your rifle aa deals more than your hammer aa, then you might wanna use a lv80 hammer while comparing.

RollFzzlbeef.4092:

Daralii.8940:

The only aspect of scrapper that’s worth anything in PvE is traits, mass momentum and perfectly weighted in particular. Everything else is flat out worse than the same old pistol/pistol condi build.

Gotta agree with ya.

I’m sorry, but when my rifle is hitting anywhere between 2650 and 4800+ without might
and my hammer at best hits for 1000-1382, it’s pretty cut and dry right there.

Scrapper was built for pvp and nothing else.

Okay first of all as noted by Ziggs above me, hammer has a stronger AA than rifle. This is just a fact.

Next to that you could say jump shot and blunderbuss make up for this difference. This is untrue. Hammer can make up to this with Thunderclap. You might think “But it only hits about 4k!”. Note that this keeps ticking while you attack with other skills, immensely increasing your dps.

Hammer also offers much more utility. For example of the Vale guardian: The blue teleport rings turn up. You use your skill 4 on hammer. The attack will be blocked, so you don’t waste time dodging, while keeping up damage with the skill.

Greetings, V

Xyonon.3987:

Power scrapper is extremly strong in pve. People overestimate condi engi at this point due DnT dps sheets that say “condi is 22k, power is 20k dps”. Yet some things have changed since then.

---

Open World and Dungeons
In open world and dungeons, everything that is downscaled, the power scrapper is better than the condi engi, since viper means expertice and that gets downscaled too compared to sinister. Also the new maps barely have mobs that stand still in napalm or fire bombs, especially chak just run away from aoes.

---

Fractals
In fractals right now condi engi is probably superior past 50ties. Low level the power scrapper is much better due low toughness. At 50~ the condi will have slightly better damage in long fights, but against all the trash the power scrapper is better. For skips etc, sneak gyro, for utility all the new reflection stuff and aoe etc – overall the scrapper with power is a much more powerful ally in fotm than a pure dps 0 utility condi engi. After december, condi engi is probably dead for fotm.

---

Raids
In raids the bosses have LOW toughness wich favours the power professions. All the dps calculations are against MEDIUM toughness enemies. The condi engis are rare, and needed for VG, but after the 3 condi engis, every additional engi should be a power scrapper due to superior dps, cc, break bar destruction and utility in general.

Btw condi engi at VG? No thank you. The condi scrapper with traits 112 and medic gyro instead of HT is superior in terms of mobility due super speed, protection in damage phases where you don’t want to interrupt or green fields in danger zones and more heal for scrapper fellows at red wenn you want to save cc but seekers are near.

---

The old condi engi, has barely a place in the game right now. Yet people have to realize it first. It’s a mass of sheeps out there who encourage themselves with what they are doing, but barely one of them looks beyond the horizon and tries to kill their darlings to improve.

greez
- Ziggy

Hi, my engineer just hit 80 and i bought rampager set from karma vendor. I am trying THE different builds and I was wondering if you could point a new engineer in THE right direction? What do I need to farm, get going etc..I have enough wvw badges to buy a berserker set too if that helps for my lower fractals ????

I only recently hit HotA and have not unlocked scrapper fully? Should that be my focus? If so, do I run berserker or rampager to explore there? And what skills do you run on berserker? I only know condi Well! Would really appreciate your input ????

Spie.5024:

Xyonon.3987:

Power scrapper is extremly strong in pve. People overestimate condi engi at this point due DnT dps sheets that say “condi is 22k, power is 20k dps”. Yet some things have changed since then.

---

Open World and Dungeons
In open world and dungeons, everything that is downscaled, the power scrapper is better than the condi engi, since viper means expertice and that gets downscaled too compared to sinister. Also the new maps barely have mobs that stand still in napalm or fire bombs, especially chak just run away from aoes.

---

Fractals
In fractals right now condi engi is probably superior past 50ties. Low level the power scrapper is much better due low toughness. At 50~ the condi will have slightly better damage in long fights, but against all the trash the power scrapper is better. For skips etc, sneak gyro, for utility all the new reflection stuff and aoe etc – overall the scrapper with power is a much more powerful ally in fotm than a pure dps 0 utility condi engi. After december, condi engi is probably dead for fotm.

---

Raids
In raids the bosses have LOW toughness wich favours the power professions. All the dps calculations are against MEDIUM toughness enemies. The condi engis are rare, and needed for VG, but after the 3 condi engis, every additional engi should be a power scrapper due to superior dps, cc, break bar destruction and utility in general.

Btw condi engi at VG? No thank you. The condi scrapper with traits 112 and medic gyro instead of HT is superior in terms of mobility due super speed, protection in damage phases where you don’t want to interrupt or green fields in danger zones and more heal for scrapper fellows at red wenn you want to save cc but seekers are near.

---

The old condi engi, has barely a place in the game right now. Yet people have to realize it first. It’s a mass of sheeps out there who encourage themselves with what they are doing, but barely one of them looks beyond the horizon and tries to kill their darlings to improve.

greez
- Ziggy

Hi, my engineer just hit 80 and i bought rampager set from karma vendor. I am trying THE different builds and I was wondering if you could point a new engineer in THE right direction? What do I need to farm, get going etc..I have enough wvw badges to buy a berserker set too if that helps for my lower fractals ????

I only recently hit HotA and have not unlocked scrapper fully? Should that be my focus? If so, do I run berserker or rampager to explore there? And what skills do you run on berserker? I only know condi Well! Would really appreciate your input ????

im in a similar boat except im nowhere near new lol.

I played sinister engi engi for a long time and I want to use hammer now but I cant seem to find a build to make it work

Azure.8670:

im in a similar boat except im nowhere near new lol.

I played sinister engi engi for a long time and I want to use hammer now but I cant seem to find a build to make it work

I will shamelessly post my Power Scrapper build.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/engineer/Scrapper-powerbuild-raids

I am thinking about taking out the elixir gun in replacement of slick shoes. But it’s really what ever you fancy.

Bwadark.2519:

Azure.8670:

im in a similar boat except im nowhere near new lol.

I played sinister engi engi for a long time and I want to use hammer now but I cant seem to find a build to make it work

I will shamelessly post my Power Scrapper build.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/engineer/Scrapper-powerbuild-raids

I am thinking about taking out the elixir gun in replacement of slick shoes. But it’s really what ever you fancy.

I like this set up a lot actually. I will test it this weekend as during the week all I do is my fractals and daily for the most part.

I will whisper/ hit your thread with all the info I compile

Azure.8670:

Bwadark.2519:

Azure.8670:

im in a similar boat except im nowhere near new lol.

I played sinister engi engi for a long time and I want to use hammer now but I cant seem to find a build to make it work

I will shamelessly post my Power Scrapper build.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/engineer/Scrapper-powerbuild-raids

I am thinking about taking out the elixir gun in replacement of slick shoes. But it’s really what ever you fancy.

I like this set up a lot actually. I will test it this weekend as during the week all I do is my fractals and daily for the most part.

I will whisper/ hit your thread with all the info I compile

I thank you for you appreciation. I look forward to hearing the feedback. I’ve changed the runes in the build to runes of the scholar though never edited the post. I will get on that.