Guild Wars 2

Rifled Turret Barrels is horribly broken, i decided to make a small video about it to show it does not apply the 15% extra damage.
First Test : Rifle Turret
532 damage without Rifled Turret Barrel Trait
532 with Rifled Turret Barrel Trait

Second Test : Rocket Turret
887 damage + 328 dott without Rifled Turret Barrel Trait
887 damage + 328 dott with Rifled Turret Barrel Trait

Third Test : Flame Turret
142 damage + 328 dott without Rifled Turret Barrel Trait
142 damage + 328 dott with Rifled Turret Barrel Trait

“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMJH2Li4fx0”
Change settings to 1080p for best quality.

Conclusion, Rifled Turret Barrel Trait does not apply the 15% damage bonus.

This test was done on a naked Character, only had the standard pvp pistol to create aggro, talent spec was : 30 points in Inventions.
On tests without i put in 30 in inventions but did not choose a trait.
On tests with Rifled Turret Barrels i put in 30 in Inventions and chose the Trait.

Hope this is sufficient proof that the Trait is broken, and i hope a dev or someone sees this.

And people still blindly thank the devs for a job well done. Nevermind that we have traits that don’t work because they don’t test anything. They are devs so they are by default smarter than the lot of us.

Many thanks for testing this trait! You just made my build a helluva lot stronger!

funny thing is that we made already several posts on all sections (bugs, pve, spvp) for bugged traits, and got no response from Anet. Hidden killer was fixed in 24h lol

btw all turret traits are broken from inventions trait line atm, just fyi

welcome to the broken world of engi, no1 cares for u

Brinson.7289:

And people still blindly thank the devs for a job well done. Nevermind that we have traits that don’t work because they don’t test anything. They are devs so they are by default smarter than the lot of us.

Many thanks for testing this trait! You just made my build a helluva lot stronger!

It’s why i actually made a video, now no one can refute the point that the trait is not giving the 15% damage, it shows it clear as day in the video, with and without traits, i took out the extra factors of gear and stats etc by going completely naked.
I can only hope a dev sees this or something!

And your welcome!
We are all brothers in arms

What about the PvE dummies in LA? Haven’t some traits not worked in pvp & worked in pve, and “vice versa”?
I’m curious cause I have debated about this trait at times for farming events/spots in Orr.
Nice clear video job btw, can’t get more blunt then what u have shown

Seriously have all my threads been unoticed, people keep repeating those or speak about turret viability right now in PVE without even taking the Invention broken trait list into consideration. I have already posted this issue the day the patch came out, even edited the wiki and I explained in multiple threads that three of our main turret traits were not working on our utilities, including :
- Metal Plating (III)
- Autotool Installation (X)
- Rifled Turret Barrel (XII)

And by the way JoxerNL, you are partialy wrong it does work, but only for our Turrets coming out of our supply crate. Want a proof? Check my supply crate Rifle Turret with Elite Supply trait and Rifled Turret Barrels deal more damage than my regular Rifle Turret utility.

Lesson of the day: Don’t use firearms treeline for the rest of the month..or longer

Penguin it is the Invention traitline that’s broken, not Firearms! XD

Hebee.8460:

What about the PvE dummies in LA? Haven’t some traits not worked in pvp & worked in pve, and “vice versa”?
I’m curious cause I have debated about this trait at times for farming events/spots in Orr.
Nice clear video job btw, can’t get more blunt then what u have shown

Just did a small test, same problem on the targets in LA.
So i think it’s safe to say the trait is universally broken.

I’ll see about making a video tomorow where i’ll test the trait in LA, so people have a visual confirmation that this trait is broken there aswell.

JokerNL read my post O.O!

Ambrecombe.4398:

Seriously has all my threads been unoticed, people keep repeating those or speak about turret viability right now in PVE without even taking the Invention broken trait list into consideration. I have already posted this issue the day the patch came out, even edited the wiki and I explained in multiple threads that three of our main turret traits were not working on the following utilities, including :
- Metal Plating (III)
- Autotool Installation (X)
- Rifled Turret Barrel (XII)

And by the way JoxerNL, you are partialy wrong it does work, but only for our Turrets coming out of our supply crate. Want a proof? Check my supply crate Rifle Turret with Elite Supply trait and Rifled Turret Barrels deal more damage than my regular Rifle Turret utility.

Ambre your initial post actually was the one that made me go and actually test it for myself.
Since yours lacked visual proof, i decided to use my setup to create this video where i provide visual proof to show that indeed the trait is horribly broken.

It’s easier to watch a video for a dev then just having to go off of a picture or simply text. (in other words, there is no kittenfooting around here, the video is blunt and clear as day showing what is wrong.)

Ambrecombe.4398:

JokerNL read my post O.O!

I was already replying to ya! :p

Keep it up, guys! Do we need to link this thread in order to bump up the priority on the PvP forum?

At the same time you can only post a single attachement to your thread, unless I start responding to my self by attaching multiple images likes these.

And this one where my net turret get hits out of its hitbox.

JoxerNL.3752:

Ambrecombe.4398:

JokerNL read my post O.O!

I was already replying to ya! :p

Sorry! Q.Q

Ambrecombe.4398:

JoxerNL.3752:

Ambrecombe.4398:

JokerNL read my post O.O!

I was already replying to ya! :p

Sorry! Q.Q

No problem!
And i so hope our findings get some attentions.
They clearly want us to use our turrets more, but since the start of this patch they break the main traits

Advent Leader.1083:

Keep it up, guys! Do we need to link this thread in order to bump up the priority on the PvP forum?

Honestly, i dont mind if people linked this thread and or my video in other areas where its applicable, PvE forum, sPvP forum, WvWvW forum etc, seems to all be affected by this, gutting our spec choices tremendously, rightnow turrets are no use, unless you specifically want to trait it for your supply drop.

JoxerNL.3752:

Ambrecombe.4398:

JoxerNL.3752:

Ambrecombe.4398:

JokerNL read my post O.O!

I was already replying to ya! :p

Sorry! Q.Q

No problem!
And i so hope our findings get some attentions.
They clearly want us to use our turrets more, but since the start of this patch they break the main traits

Actualy I could get some attention on the Support section and I also could put a little addition of mine inbetween 2 of Jon Peters replies on the Elixir S bug thread.

So they are probably working on it for the next correction patch or big monthly update.

Ambrecombe.4398:

Penguin it is the Invention traitline that’s broken, not Firearms! XD

I think I’ll just not use any line just to be on the safe side lol

actually we need to hit every section with bug posts, since Anet didn’t acknowledged they are aware of bug

would be nice if u include BUG into the topic and paint it red, place some cookies on the side etc

Ambrecombe.4398:

attaching multiple images likes these.

Use paint to combine the images. I’m bumping this thread

FOR TURRETS!

I know what Anets response will be like:
“We looked at the script and it seemed fine”.
Locks Thread

I’d like to see this fixed as fast as other class crippeling bugs.
Those get fixed overnight in a hotfix, and this thusfar has been broken since the patch.

JoxerNL.3752:

I’d like to see this fixed as fast as other class crippeling bugs.
Those get fixed overnight in a hotfix, and this thusfar has been broken since the patch.

Bump my thread with the big list of bugs plz ^^

Yeah good initiative Skewjo, it’s abit of a downer we have had 0 response thusfar.

> throughly thrashes entire spec
> doesn’t notice

Doesn’t help rifled turret barrels was broken for so long before this. Starting to think the devs just don’t care about engineers anymore, and any change is just out of pity to quell the masses temporarily.

Also, bump for great justice!

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Engineer-turret-traits-broken/first#post1958984

Posted in general discussion, try keeping it bumped if you can guys, someone HAS to see this.

Wasn’t the point of all the work done on turrets to make them more effective? Seems a shame to have all of that hard work ruined by poor QA coverage. I hope they fix this soon; it’s a pain in the butt to use them now without the little regen they get to keep them alive (can’t push mobs away and root them to let turret heal) I suppose I could use toolkit auto-attack to repair them( ah hahahaha that’s funny)

The worst part is that this has been bugged since the patch’s release yet no word from anyone, whereas other classes immediatly got fixed, it’s abit of a kicker to see how we are getting ignored because we lack a “loudmouth majority”.

Did it work before the turret update? Maybe they forgot to update how it interacts with the new turrets like Deployable Turrets.

But yea, sad how they ignore engineers.

Sobat.8650:

Did it work before the turret update? Maybe they forgot to update how it interacts with the new turrets like Deployable Turrets.

But yea, sad how they ignore engineers.

I can confirm you that every perks in the Invention line were working correctly. There was only a small bug in the Tool line making deployable turret put Flame Turret and Rocket Turret on the same value. Rocket Turret got magicaly hotfixed the day the same day the patch came out, while on the other hand, we had to wait a month for the Flame Turret to get its cooldown fixed.

There was also a debate about Rifled Turret Barrels not working as intended before the Turret update, but most of the claims were wrong and people didn’t realy tested those turrets the way they should have.

And now apparently there is no CD reduction when you pick Healing Turret up (Edit : Confirmed). Indeed, you have to wait 1sec before you pick your turret up or you don’t get the cooldown reduction for your turret.

@Ambrecombe There is a hidden delay with the CD with the healing turret now. You have to wait a good second before picking it up to get the reduced cooldown. Playing like you used to quickly pressing f right after 6 will get you the full 20sec’s.

Neare.9703:

@Ambrecombe There is a hidden delay with the CD with the healing turret now. You have to wait a good second before picking it up to get the reduced cooldown. Playing like you used to quickly pressing f right after 6 will get you the full 20sec’s.

Something that has been bugged for a while now.

Terrahero.9358:

Neare.9703:

@Ambrecombe There is a hidden delay with the CD with the healing turret now. You have to wait a good second before picking it up to get the reduced cooldown. Playing like you used to quickly pressing f right after 6 will get you the full 20sec’s.

Something that has been bugged for a while now.

I hadn’t noticed this before because I was usualy blowing my turret up for an extra water combo instead of picking it up instantly. And also because I usualy deploy my turrets away from me making it impossible to pick those up in less than 1sec. But yeah, it could also use a fix.

Hey JoxerNL just made a video with turrets hitbox so you can see what is the problem with them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL-BWRKWkLY&feature=youtu.be

Ambrecombe.4398:

Hey JoxerNL just made a video with turrets hitbox so you can see what is the problem with them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL-BWRKWkLY&feature=youtu.be

Had to watch it twice before i noticed it, halfway in all 3 turrets were hit while the mobs aoe was out of range from all 3, that’s a very large hitbox issue right there.

JoxerNL.3752:

Ambrecombe.4398:

Hey JoxerNL just made a video with turrets hitbox so you can see what is the problem with them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL-BWRKWkLY&feature=youtu.be

Had to watch it twice before i noticed it, halfway in all 3 turrets were hit while the mobs aoe was out of range from all 3, that’s a very large hitbox issue right there.

Actualy the healing turret wasn’t hit before the second AoE, when I actualy move up to my net turret, to show my hitbox was smaller compared to my net turret hitbox, the NPC actualed used a second AoE that broke most of my turrets and I also blew my healing turret for a second heal burst. The second ennemy was also not supposed to interfere, so I threaten him and killed him, because I don’t like it when people get in my way! XD

I also noticed the size of turrets seem different or was that an optical illusion?

I think we need someone to make another bug compilation. All these bugs are coming out of the wood work.

Specterryu Quipter.8412:

I think we need someone to make another bug compilation. All these bugs are coming out of the wood work.

Yeah but who’s gonna cut the wood in half?

not to mention mortar range still doesn’t increase with traits.

alot of our traits are broken, i cant help but wonder how -many- exactly are broken at the moment.

Great, another hotfix and turrets traits are still broken… Are we going to have to wait a whole month, maybe more, to get our traits finaly fixed?

I’m convinced ANet doesn’t even recognize Engineer as a class and instead just are letting it fail like it should have from never being fully complete.

Volitle.4628:

I’m convinced ANet doesn’t even recognize Engineer as a class and instead just are letting it fail like it should have from never being fully complete.

Looking at their interactions and how fast they are fixing other class mechanics that broke because of their patch… i can only but agree, said it elsewhere before : Feels like the devs simply dont care about the Engineer.

I am thinking to change Granadier to Turrets, but with this bug, not.

I really want to use a turret built for pvp, because HGH got boring…
But With all turret traits in the invention line broken and a giant hitbox…. nope… gonna wait the estimated 3 months until arenanet fixes this…

Post here, everyone: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Engineer-Turrets-Broken-as-of-30th-April/page/2#post1986798