Guild Wars 2

Lets face it, the second minor given the cooldown and requirements of the function Gyro, is basically useless across any PvE content and barely useful in any other.

A suggestion over in this thread would be to merge the first and second minors together, a new second minor would then have room for a better one, which would be useful to scrappers in all game modes.

The real question is what would that replacement be? Suggestions welcome.

It would be really nice to get another trait, which will have an impact in PvE. The actual minors seem like they won’t get any use most of the time in this environment.

Scrapper seems to be a tanky spec. Maybe we could get a minor trait, which gives us access to some aegis? Like the old Armor Modification.

Whenever you are stunned, disabled etc..summon a blast gyro that rushes your target 30 sec icd ?

Giving or receiving critical hits grants your electrical charges once x stacks are reached your next damaging ability will pulse out an electrical wave from your toon 300 units that damages and dazes for 1 sec?

Being stunned disabled etc.. Will break stun break and activate shock shield , drone bubble?

Frightlight.3796:

Whenever you are stunned, disabled etc..summon a blast gyro that rushes your target 30 sec icd ?

Giving or receiving critical hits grants your electrical charges once x stacks are reached your next damaging ability will pulse out an electrical wave from your toon 300 units that damages and dazes for 1 sec?

Being stunned disabled etc.. Will break stun break and activate shock shield , drone bubble?

Literally ANY of those would be perfect as opposed to what we have. Please speak up this beta weekend guys and gals!

Screwface.5296:

Frightlight.3796:

Whenever you are stunned, disabled etc..summon a blast gyro that rushes your target 30 sec icd ?

Giving or receiving critical hits grants your electrical charges once x stacks are reached your next damaging ability will pulse out an electrical wave from your toon 300 units that damages and dazes for 1 sec?

Being stunned disabled etc.. Will break stun break and activate shock shield , drone bubble?

Literally ANY of those would be perfect as opposed to what we have. Please speak up this beta weekend guys and gals!

I will I am only gonna spend time on the scrapper. I am trying to keep the minor idea within the playstyle and theme of the scrapper I feel like the second proposed idea would be a great damage/cc addition while tanking and doing damage in melee

Recycled Renown - Destroyed gyros drop scrap. Collecting scrap reduces the recharge of all gyros by x amount

Making Stabilization Core the second minor and having Decisive Renown as an adept trait feels like it would make more sense. And letting Renown proc when you kill any enemy, not just finish off a downed one, would go a long way to helping it(as would reducing the cooldown to 5 seconds). Maybe even add another effect to Stabilization Core, “If the function drone is destroyed, it explodes, damaging and stunning enemies around it while healing allies.”

Functional Gyro itself needs a shorter cooldown. We should be able to use it once every engagement.

20 seconds would be perfect I think.

I dont think they are going to change the minor traits. Maybe they are useless when pveing, but they are definitely not on the other gamemodes, or the traits are just crap everywhere or they are not going to rework them imo

To be fair: there already is a specialization in this game, which has minor traits giving benefit to rezzing (and rezzing only).

Warrior: Tactics

Soooo… I really hate to say that but I think we have to deal with it. We get improved rez ability.

Wait whats the cooldown on Function Gyro?

lorddarkflare.9186:

Functional Gyro itself needs a shorter cooldown. We should be able to use it once every engagement.

20 seconds would be perfect I think.

Frankly I don’t think it should have any cooldown. While I do like what it does, it’s so niche compared to what every other profession gets. Why should I not be able to use it to revive two party members at Mai Trin if they go down within 15s of each other? Maybe a cooldown per target, but how the heck are we supposed to manage that?

I would rather see no cooldown in BWE3 and see if there’s really anything OP about that. If it turns out no cooldown is OP, then give it 5-10s tops.

Add to Decisive Renown: Super Speed applied by you is enhanced and now ignores Cripple and Chill.

OR… Add to Decisive Renown: +__% Super Speed duration.

OR… Swap Decisive Renown with Shocking Speed.

Adamantium.3682:

Add to Decisive Renown: Super Speed applied by you is enhanced and now ignores Cripple and Chill.

OR… Add to Decisive Renown: +__% Super Speed duration.

OR… Swap Decisive Renown with Shocking Speed.

Slightly off topic, but I think super speed used to increase your movement speed to the same as swiftness out of combat, even if you were in combat and had cripple/chill. Did that change?

fluidmonolith.3584:

Adamantium.3682:

Add to Decisive Renown: Super Speed applied by you is enhanced and now ignores Cripple and Chill.

OR… Add to Decisive Renown: +__% Super Speed duration.

OR… Swap Decisive Renown with Shocking Speed.

Slightly off topic, but I think super speed used to increase your movement speed to the same as swiftness out of combat, even if you were in combat and had cripple/chill. Did that change?

I thought it did too, but people were saying it got changed. Honestly I haven’t checked for myself recently, if so obviously just ignore the first one.

Stuns are a core part of the Scrapper, and one of the minors enhances their stuns. Super Speed is also a core part of the Scrapper, I would like to see one of the minors make it unique from the regular Super Speed not applied by a Scrapper. Maybe leaves a trail of damage behind or something. Currently Scrapper doesn’t look that enticing to the PvE crowd, this could help. Trait your Scrapper for Super Speed and each time you have Super Speed you’ll leave a little trail of electricity damage that lasts for a couple seconds and makes enemies vulnerable or something.

Adamantium.3682:

fluidmonolith.3584:

Adamantium.3682:

Add to Decisive Renown: Super Speed applied by you is enhanced and now ignores Cripple and Chill.

OR… Add to Decisive Renown: +__% Super Speed duration.

OR… Swap Decisive Renown with Shocking Speed.

Slightly off topic, but I think super speed used to increase your movement speed to the same as swiftness out of combat, even if you were in combat and had cripple/chill. Did that change?

I thought it did too, but people were saying it got changed. Honestly I haven’t checked for myself recently, if so obviously just ignore the first one.

Stuns are a core part of the Scrapper, and one of the minors enhances their stuns. Super Speed is also a core part of the Scrapper, I would like to see one of the minors make it unique from the regular Super Speed not applied by a Scrapper. Maybe leaves a trail of damage behind or something. Currently Scrapper doesn’t look that enticing to the PvE crowd, this could help. Trait your Scrapper for Super Speed and each time you have Super Speed you’ll leave a little trail of electricity damage that lasts for a couple seconds and makes enemies vulnerable or something.

It’s not a bad suggestion, necro minors improve chill, super speed or lightening field buffs would make more sense than an on Rez/finisher boon.

Nuddsy.3219:

Recycled Renown - Destroyed gyros drop scrap. Collecting scrap reduces the recharge of all gyros by x amount

Excellent suggestion imo. Would go perfect with the specialisation theme and improve gyros overall with a very interactive mechanic. Even if you run no gyros this could still lower he cooldown of your function gyro. Also there is already incencitive to move to the location of destroyed gyros due to the lightning field trait.