Guild Wars 2

Here is the final build!
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQFAUlUUpzrlcxxLseNSeBN6rkkpAyAkARGwBC-TJBFwACuAA12foaZAAPAAA

Testing variant! Utility Goggles over Personal Battering Ram!
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQFAUlUUpzrlcxtLseNSeBN6rkkpAyAkARGwBC-TJBFwACuAA12foaZAAPAAA

This is a fragile burst build with lots of chain CC capabilities! You can lock down a single player very easily and if they don’t have a stunbreak or stability, it’s quite lethal! The most important thing is to land your combo setup moves which are Net Shot, Overcharged Shot, and Magnet! If you land any of those abilities, you can perform a number of high damage and high CC combos! I will demonstrate a few combos for you frands! Many of these combos cannot be dodged if you land your opening hit! However the target can interrupt the combo using a stunbreak or blink, or they can block during your Net Shot immob! I typed out the combo rotations in the description of each highlight! Here we go!

Magnet opener vs Cele Engi!
http://www.twitch.tv/livskis/c/5809366
Magnet opener vs DD Ele!
http://www.twitch.tv/livskis/c/5809400
Overcharge Shot opener vs DD Ele!
http://www.twitch.tv/livskis/c/5809470
Net Shot opener vs Cele Engi! (Don’t use against actual Engi unless you know Transmute is on cooldown!)
http://www.twitch.tv/livskis/c/5809501
What if your target blocks while immobilized in Net Shot!
http://www.twitch.tv/livskis/c/5809488
Utility Goggles Variant! Utility Goggles was made for this build! You can stunbreak your self knockback from Overcharge Shot and it also gives you fury for your subsequent burst!
http://www.twitch.tv/livskis/c/5818026

Obviously in a real game you won’t be facing against people who are standing still! You won’t land these combos all the time because of stability, and stunbreaks, etc! That’s ok! Just make sure to land your setup skills and you can combo from there! A lot of your burst comes from Throw Wrench + Launch Personal Battering Ram + Static Discharge + Blunderbuss! If you can set up these three attacks, you’ll be doing a lot of damage!

The role of this build is similar to a Thief! You are a roamer! Use your permanent swiftness to get to points quickly! You should +1 a fight and blow somebody up with burst and CC and move onto the next point! Again always try to land your setup moves! If you land an opening Overcharge Shot, Magnet, or Net Shot, you are guaranteed to deal heavy burst and chain CC or force the other guy to use a stunbreak!

Build Variations! Because people like different things!

General Tips!

• Never ever ever ever ever stand on point during a teamfight unless you really, really, really have to! This goes for 90% of all Engi builds including condi and cele rifle and 100% of all Berserker Amulet builds!
• Magnet is amazing in a teamfight! There’s a lot of stuff flying around and people may not notice you Magnet-ing them! Magnet is the best way to start a combo!
• Use Super Speed + Gear Shield to disengage from fights! You are very fragile! Try not to take many hits! It’s better to retreat and reposition yourself!
• Don’t be afraid to use Super Speed to stunbreak early! You are fragile so you need to avoid hits, and the 3 point trait in Tools recharges your toolbelt abilities!
• Elixir X is a viable elite choice! Rampage can dish out a lot of damage with Air/Fire Sigils! Tornado is ok to prevent stomps/revives and does decent damage with the lightning attack!
• Personal Battering Ram is a good alternative to Overcharged Shot after a Magnet Pull! This way you have enough time to use both Throw Wrench and Launch Personal Battering Ram before you Net Shot! And you can Blunderbuss > Overcharge Shot afterwards!
• You can easily decap a point because the build has a lot of CC! Magnet > Net Shot > run to point > Overcharge Shot is a good way! Or just an Overcharge Shot > Net Shot if you’re both on point! This applies to all rifle builds really!
• Even though this is a gadget build, don’t use AED! It sucks! That’s all! Don’t use gadget traits either! They are bad! Gadgeteer is recommended in some of the variants because those variants don’t run Speedy Kits so there’s an extra slot in the trait line! And Gadgeteer is only used for the aegis from Throw Mine because it’s slightly better than Armor Mods in that you can control your aegis proc!

Once again this build is just for funsies that Vee Wee made because Vee Wee likes gadgets! If you use it against some Challenger of the Arena Legendary Champion super tryhard premade Teamspeak using team and lose, you cannot blame Vee Wee! And if you win against that, be sure to record and upload here! Questions, comments, and concerns please post here! Wahoo!

Thanks to suchalameo, bert, and marvin for helping with the combo videos!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

Hm, no gadget traits and only two gadgets taken. I wouldn’t call this a “gadget” build, per se, but it still looks fun and fairly effective. I’ve done something similar with bomb kit instead of toolkit before, which had some ok results.

You might also consider runes of rage as an alternative choice since it would allow for high fury uptime, although I think I’d probably prefer the runes of the pack , myself.

Hello frands! Vee Wee here, #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

Thanks for your input frand Yamsandjams!

Well first Vee Wee wanted to make a gadget build that was going to be useful! Or at least as useful as a gadget build can be! Not taking any kits is just foolish by design! And the gadget heal is just so awful! Literally one of the worst heals in the game if not the worst! And it’s not going to get much better come the Sept 9 patch! Gadget traits are equally as bad! Vee Wee would not recommend using any of the gadget traits! They are so bad! So bad! A real shame!

Vee Wee would rather take Runes of the Pack or even Med Kit for fury! If Runes of Rage had power as its main stat then Vee Wee would consider it! And probably add it to the varitions! But ferocity! Vee Wee does not think it’s good!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

Hello Vee Wee! Frand here.

I have previously tried to make a SD Gadget build too as it is much fun! Interestingly it is very different to what you have created.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQFAUlUUpxrlcxvLseNSeBN6rMlgA6AkgqKqcA-TJBFwAy3fYxDAoaZAAXAAA

Could you explain why you went for Protection Injection/Invigorating Speed? I personally felt that they were not needed as Protection doesn’t do much good when you are a squishy Zerker Engineer with very little disengage. I personally would rather take Self-Regulating Defenses to buy you some time to get away.

Another change I had was I invested an additional 10 points in Firearms for the mega-damage traits of Target the Maimed and Modified Ammunition. If you are in a team fight with other people applying conditions, you could increase you damage by at least 10%. Do you think this is worth it?

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts!

Vee Wee, #1 , muted audio Engi NA.

Hello frands! Vee Wee here, #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

Good questions my frand Chungiee! Protection Injection and Invigorating Speed are huge survivability boons! First every build needs vigor! There isn’t a single viable PvP build out there that doesn’t have vigor! Except Necromancers but they are an exception because they have no vigor! Taking Invigorating Speed also means you have more burst! You can replace Energy Sigil with Fire Sigil! Protection is pretty huge on zerker builds! Just ask Fresh Air Elementalists! Also this build isn’t as fragile as you think! You have a lot of blinds and blocks and dodges as well as loads of cc! Vee Wee once survived almost 2 minutes 1v2 preventing a cap from a D/D Elementalist and Eviscerate Warrior at Waterfall on Foefire! Vee Wee could have survived even longer if Anet fixed their game! Vee Wee was out of line of sight against the Warrior’s Longbow! Suddenly he switched to axe and Eviscerated Vee Wee through a cliff! How can an axe hit Vee Wee through 3 feet of dirt and rock! Vee Wee will never know!

Super Speed + Gear Shield is actually a pretty effective form of disengage! Sure it’s not the best way but Vee Wee has gotten out of many sticky situations using this combo! Self Regulating Defenses is not that good for disengaging! First it has a long cooldown! Second if you have any condis on you, you won’t be able to clear them and it only activates when you have extremely low health! Third if you are chilled or crippled or immobilized, it just delays the inevitable! You’re not getting away from anything with those condis on you!

Modified Ammo Vee Wee doesn’t think is that good for PvP! First it is Vee Wee’s opinion that the Firearms Tree is the 2nd worst tree that the Engineers have and you should never commit 30 points into it! Second, if you were to go 30 into Firearms, Rifle Mod would be the better choice! Rifle Mod gives a flat 10% bonus when you have a rifle out! You would need a constant 5 conditions on a target to match that kind of increase! Very rarely will someone have 5+ conditions up for a long enough time to make Modified Ammo better than Rifle Mod! And even if they do have 5 conditions on them, they are probably dead anyway!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

Vee Wee, tnx for information, very educational.

Thank you for your detailed response Vee Wee. I will test your build once I get home before I comment further on it.

However, I will note that Slick Shoes’s knockdown isn’t that great and Super Speed doesn’t proc SD very well as it has a long cooldown. I appreciate it is a stun-breaker which is important but would Rocket Boots be better?

Also, it could just be personal preference but in the past, I have found Hair Trigger really good with Rifle as the extra CC and kiting support from Jump Shot increases survivability so much more than vigor dodges.

Hello frands! Vee Wee here, #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

Slick Shoes can be really great! Vee Wee has knocked multiple people down repeatedly in one use! Vee Wee has also knocked no one down! You just have to use it right! Vee Wee would not take Rocket Boots even though Rocket Boots is a great ability! This is because Vee Wee highly recommends a stunbreak especially on a build that runs Berserker Amulet! If you wanted to replace Slick Shoes, Vee Wee would recommend Utility Goggles, though without Super Speed, you lose your only disengage ability!

The same reasoning is applied to vigor! Vee Wee cannot recommend a build without vigor or some kind of energy replenishment especially on a build that uses Berserker Amulet! Vee Wee is a big fan of Energy Sigil, but does not use it in this build because it’s burst oriented! The Air/Fire combo is too good to pass up!

If you wanted to use Hair Trigger, Vee Wee would recommend replacing Static Discharge with Speedy Kits! That way you don’t need Infused Precision and can use Speedy Kits! And since you have Speedy Kits, you don’t need Traveler Runes anymore! Swap to Ogre or Pack! Actually now that Vee Wee thinks about it, Static Discharge doesn’t do a lot of damage! Vee Wee will probably replace Static Discharge with Speedy Kits the next time Vee Wee is in game!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

chungiee.8764:

I personally would rather take Self-Regulating Defenses to buy you some time to get away.

Be very careful with this. That trait will save you just as often as it will screw you. It can prevent you from using the last one or two attacks to down an opponent if you also get low while fighting them, letting them recover, or it can pop just before you use your heal skill, causing you to sit there and die to conditions. It will also prevent you from holding any nodes, although you won’t likely be focusing on doing that while using such a build.

Vee wee, have you thought of replacing personal battering ram with throw mine and switching armor mods for gadgeteer? You’d be able to secure aegis just as frequently, albeit you’d need to use the mine, but you’d give yourself a bit of extra staying power via regen on slick shoes. The mine also has a lower cooldown than the battering ram, and you can knock people back from range with it. The boon strip can also be very helpful if you manage to remove a stability since it allows you to go in for CCs. I guess the SD proc on mine field would go to waste though, so it could mean less overall damage.

Hello frands! Vee Wee here, #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

Good idea my frand Yamsandjams! Throw Mine has both pros and cons but Vee Wee thinks it could definitely work! Stripping protection or stability is pretty huge for obvious reasons! Vee Wee still likes Personal Battering Ram though! First the skill is too funny! And you can use it to launch people off point in case Overcharged Shot is on cooldown! If Vee Wee could edit the post to add Throw Mine/Gadgeteer to the variations Vee Wee would! But Anet has banned Vee Wee’s account yet again! Vee Wee does not know why Vee Wee keeps getting banned! All Vee Wee ever does is try to help people!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

ArrDee.2573:

Hello frands! Vee Wee here, #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

Good idea my frand Yamsandjams! Throw Mine has both pros and cons but Vee Wee thinks it could definitely work! Stripping protection or stability is pretty huge for obvious reasons! Vee Wee still likes Personal Battering Ram though! First the skill is too funny! And you can use it to launch people off point in case Overcharged Shot is on cooldown! If Vee Wee could edit the post to add Throw Mine/Gadgeteer to the variations Vee Wee would! But Anet has banned Vee Wee’s account yet again! Vee Wee does not know why Vee Wee keeps getting banned! All Vee Wee ever does is try to help people!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

You should open a support ticket and ask them directly.

Hello frands! Vee Wee here, #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

Here is a funny clip using Vee Wee’s build!

http://www.twitch.tv/livskis/c/5016482

This is what happens when you try to revive without stability! Tho thilly!

Vee Wee apologizes for the quality! Vee Wee always forgets to turn on shadowplay to record HD videos!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

Engi is about fun and engineering, engineer your own builds and have a blast! Remember, the only bad build is the build thats bad for YOUR playstyle

Hello frands! Vee Wee here, #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

Updated the build! Vee Wee thinks it’s thuper fun to use and the results can be hilarious! #gadgetmeta2014!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

Ya gotta update the text in your op to correspond with your build. ;P

Also, have you given Throw Mine with gadget GM trait a go yet to see if it is indeed better?

Also, I’ve seen you post #mortarmeta2014 as well. You got a decent working build using mortar elite going on?

Does he run two accounts? I’m a bit scared now…

Rym.1469:

Does he run two accounts? I’m a bit scared now…

Well, he does have post from both counts in which he claims they are accounts he shares with a friend. It says a lot that he both openly shares that he violated the ToS, and promotes the practice.

Hello frands! Vee Wee here, #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

Mortar is terrible! Vee Wee just likes running it because the game is boring! Vee Wee has been running nothing but this gadget build and 5 elixirs!

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQJAqalcTp6q1XxCLseNCbBBqNI6jEln85IGglC-TJhAwATeAAkLDA4EAwb/BA

Wahoo! Bye frands!

ellesee.8297:

Hello frands! Vee Wee here, #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

Mortar is terrible! Vee Wee just likes running it because the game is boring! Vee Wee has been running nothing but this gadget build and 5 elixirs!

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQJAqalcTp6q1XxCLseNCbBBqNI6jEln85IGglC-TJhAwATeAAkLDA4EAwb/BA

Wahoo! Bye frands!

lol. Ok. For a second there I thought you had achieved the impossible. :P

ellesee.8297:

Hello frands! Vee Wee here, #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

Mortar is terrible! Vee Wee just likes running it because the game is boring! Vee Wee has been running nothing but this gadget build and 5 elixirs!

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQJAqalcTp6q1XxCLseNCbBBqNI6jEln85IGglC-TJhAwATeAAkLDA4EAwb/BA

Wahoo! Bye frands!

Correct me if I’m wrong, but that looks like 4 elixirs and a crate to me.

Why do you post on 2 different accounts ……

I just wanna know if he says “Wahoo!” when he exits a room in real life.

Yamsandjams.3267:

ellesee.8297:

Hello frands! Vee Wee here, #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

Mortar is terrible! Vee Wee just likes running it because the game is boring! Vee Wee has been running nothing but this gadget build and 5 elixirs!

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQJAqalcTp6q1XxCLseNCbBBqNI6jEln85IGglC-TJhAwATeAAkLDA4EAwb/BA

Wahoo! Bye frands!

Correct me if I’m wrong, but that looks like 4 elixirs and a crate to me.

Shares another account with a friend, sometimes one of his accounts gets banned, he can be a bit opinionated at times.

You said for fun but that’s not what you said in game.

This Vee Wee looks like Falcon lover talking
Is that you falcon lover? Where’s the 360 no scopes?

mPascoal.4258:

This Vee Wee looks like Falcon lover talking
Is that you falcon lover? Where’s the 360 no scopes?

Giraffes don’t play Guild Wars 2, Only Call of Duty. Silly

Hello frands! Vee Wee here, retired #1 Engi NA and world first rank 80!

Finally updated and finished this guide! Updated the build! Added some tutorial videos WITH SOUND OMG! You can see just how good the damage on this build is being able to 100-0 a DD Cele Elementalist with protection on (granted he wasn’t spamming skills and going into water attunment but still!)! Added some general tips! Added a buttload of variants! Good luck, have fun, and don’t forget #gadgetmeta!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

PS Just want to point out that most of the variants are untested! I just theorycrafted them for variety!

Hey VeeWee, if the Gadgeteer boon for A.E.D. was Stability instead of Retaliation, would your opinion on it’s usefulness change at all?

Nope! AED would still be one of the worst heals in the game! Gadgeteer also isn’t that good and definitely not worthy of a grandmaster tier trait! There are so many good traits in the Tools line, Gadgeteer has to get a significant buff to replace either Static Discharge, Power Wrench, or Speedy Kits! Gadget traits in general are just awful which is why I don’t run them in a gadget build! So sad!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

Variations!

More damage at the cost of rng survivability! Rifle Mod over Go For The Eyes!
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQFAUlUUpzrlcxxLseNSeBN6rMlkAyAsARGwBC-TJBFwACuAA12foaZAAPAAA

Replace Personal Battering Ram with Throw Mine! Gain boon strip which is good for removing stability and Magnet > Mine Field combo is quite deadly!
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQFAUlUUpzrlcxLLseNSeBN6rMlkAyAkARGwBC-TJBFwACuAA12foaZAAPAAA

Less burst without Static Discharge, but hilarious RNG survivability with the Go For The Eyes + Armor Mods combo!
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQFAUlUUpzrlcxxLseNSeBN6kMlgAyAkARGwBC-TJBFwACuAA12foaZAAPAAA

Traveler Runes Variant! Go For The Eyes + Armor Mods combo! Infused Precision over Hair Trigger to keep vigor buff!
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQFAUlUUpzrlcxxLseNSfxM6nWKHQGfAiM/9B-TJBFwACuAAy3foaZAAPAAA

Traveler Runes variant! Replace Personal Battering Ram with Throw Mine! Keep Go For The Eyes + aegis combo with Gadgeteer! Gain boon stripping and Magnet + Mine Field Combo! Infused Precision keeps the vigor up!
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQFAUlUUpzrlcxLLseNSfBN6nskJDy4FARmv9B-TJBFwACuAAy3foaZAAPAAA

Rifled Barrels over Hair Trigger for long range harassment with Air/Fire Sigils! Take Rifle Mod over Go For The Eyes because passive play is your defense!
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQFAUlUUpzrlcxxLseNieBN6qEljAyAkAR+vAC-TJBFwACuAA12foaZAAPAAA

Utility Goggles over Slick Shoes! Full offense mode! Really beefs up Static Discharge damage but you lose a big defensive cooldown/offensive stunlock without Slick Shoes!
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQFAUlUUptrlcxxLseNSeBN6rMlkAyAkARGwBC-TJBFwACuAA12foaZAAPAAA

Rocket Boots over Personal Battering Ram! You lose a ranged Static Discharge proc but gain survivability through disengage!
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQFAUlUUpzrlcxvLseNSeBN6rMlkAyAkARGwBC-TJBFwACuAA12foaZAAPAAA

Wahoo! Bye frands!

And launch personal battering ram gets a 1sec daze… gadgetmeta on the rise

Jan 27 balance patch

Yippee! It’s a nice little buff! It can be pretty significant if you manage to daze them after you hit them with Net Shot to prevent blocking subsequent burst, similar to the power Necro Dark Pact > Wells > Wail of Doom combo! I know if I ever get immobilized, the first thing I’m doing is whipping out Gear Shield!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

very interesting, what classes/build would be the tough counter for this build?

Condition spam .

it seems to me a variation of sd static discharge build trading rifle turret for a gadget. … no more

Been waiting for this. GADGETS FOR PRESIDENT!