In this Video I’ll be fighting against a Grenades condi Engi and and Riffle Bunker Engi. Why are there so few Engis that use sheilds? Am i missing Something? I’m using Rune of the Gaurdian to burn people as I block and a Sentienal Amulet, Is there really a bigger advantage with celest riffle or pure condi?
Offense is much higher on p/p and rifle. offhand pistol has a lot of condi stuff for those builds, rifle has immob/knockback/burst. Shield can be nice for stuff, I have seen plenty, it’s just not as popular as the bit more offensive builds… I see a lot of turret engi’s using shield being more defensive letting their turrets do a lot of the work.
I really enjoy watching people mashing their buttons with no judgement at all.
Great video!
Oh as for shield it’s used a lot for condi builds. It’s better than offhand pistol because it defends you! But blowtorch is so strong dps some people go yolo mode to get them deeps going.
ive learned to start using it again for awhile now…but i am perplex garbage who needs to L2p yada yada yada. also i use it because the amount of pew pews now a days is just staggering! how could not use shield
Before I played Engi, I spent a lot of time on guard. The engineer’s shield is what I wish guard’s was more like and thus it is my staple on my engi. I run a cele 2kit with pistol/shield and it is very strong!
When compared to faster recharge and cc on rifle having the ability to decap a point is more important.
The shield reflect/bounce/blast is good but main hand pistol isn’t too great, if engies got a different main hand could see more using it. Sure when going full bunker the condi’s can help just nowhere near as good as a condi build.
What’s your role as a settler Engi! Not sturdy enough to stand on point! Not enough damage to… deal damage! Doesn’t seem like a very effective PvP build!
Anyways shield stopped being a thing because Engis stopped running Grenade Kit/Bomb Kit/stunbreak in favor of Grenade Kit/Tool Kit/stunbreak! Losing Bomb Kit is losing a lot of burn uptime that needed to be remedied through offhand pistol! Burning is how a condi Engi deals damage! With the introduction of Balthazar Runes, shield is kinda ok with the Grenade/Tool Kit/stunbreak loadout because of the long Incendiary Powder burn time but it’s super defensive and not something that I’m personally a fan of!
The shield has nice skills, but it’s defensive orientation is not ideal for a lot of situations. In general, it’s not really going to help you kill things faster, and the CC it provides is not quite as potent as that of the rifle.
The only builds I really run with shield these days are a healing build and a perplexity build, though I only really use those in WvW. In particular, the latter doesn’t use the tool kit, so the shield can really help out when I need to block incoming attacks.
I have seen some turret build using shield so they can maximize their defence, but I prefer using rifle on my turret build since it provides better CC.
I looove my shield. With two abilities i get a reflect, push back, blast finisher, block, and mid-range stun. The mobile reflect is so much fun against warrior/ ranger/ rifle engi. It’s just that…
As already mentioned shield’s main setback is mh pistol. Which really is only bad because the auto attack is very underwhelming. With that being said, it (shield) has amazing synergy with bomb kit.
The other other reason why they are so rare is because rifle is just so kitten good. Like really kitten good. I prefer playing p/s balth bomber but rifle/ cele set up is simply better
Actually you can… You can run the exact same trait set ups as far as point allocation goes. Along with what utilities you use. When fighting an engi you will be playing more against what kit’s/ utility (cc with wep thus comparing p/s to rifle) as apposed to how they damage you.
This is why Cele synergizes so well with the class.
in my opinion, for playing with pistol mh and shield or pistolf offhand, rabid is much better than celestial. Your primary source of damage is condition and with rabid you have a great improve .
I use a shield in WvW, and sometimes in PvP when I feel like using a condi build there (or on ranger days, hehehe). I almost feel like shield is required when roaming in WvW because it’s perfect for knocking a thief out of their shadow refuge.
To me, I prefer a pistol/shield than a rifle in WvW simply because I am terrible at controlling the battle due to my latency. I can just sacrifice that for some additional conditions I can inflict onto my foes.
I love the shield. I find the reflect invaluable against that pesky LB rangers and scepter Mesmer. That and I got 4 Ghastly Grinning Shields in the first Halloween event, and it is fun seeing it on my character as I reflect that projectiles at those players who think they are going to do a massive rapid fire from 1500 range, only to find the “quit hitting yourself” aspect take into effect.
I love the shield. I find the reflect invaluable against that pesky LB rangers and scepter Mesmer. That and I got 4 Ghastly Grinning Shields in the first Halloween event, and it is fun seeing it on my character as I reflect that projectiles at those players who think they are going to do a massive rapid fire from 1500 range, only to find the “quit hitting yourself” aspect take into effect.
Killing a ranger with their own RF gives one of the most satisfying feelings in this game. It’s right up there with killing turret engi’s.
Pistol/Shield used to be all the rage for a long while when the Engineer finally showed up on the majority of the playerbase’s radar. I appreciate the major condition pressure from a P/P at that moment, shield only served me rarely, and the blowtorch is really underrated.
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p/s is nice for nades based condi. I play rabid 2kit with nightmare runes and p/s rocks. I tend to use nades as the main weapon and just use p/s for utility and more condis. offhand pistol is cool, but the utility from the shield is too good imo. nades, pistol, and tookiy are more than enough to take anyone down.
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I rarely see Engis using P/P and when I do they’re terrible. It adds moderately more damage, any condi build worth its salt will have perma burning and Blowtorch doesn’t land all the time anyways. Glue Shot is nice but not nearly worth the two shield skills IMO.
“Pound for pound” the Engi shield is the best weapon in the game IMO. The utility you get from the two skills is incredible.
I guess I can’t answer the OP. I would have to say something snarky like “you’re looking in the wrong places” or something mean, but I won’t!
