Guild Wars 2

SPVP

This engineer would not die. He had 4 people on him, and had like perm boons on him. I spectated and found he used…

the supply crate, pistol/shield and FT a wrench, and Elixir Gun. He used the healing turret.

IT was unreal!

Probably taking the -20% damage when cc’d trait and a lot of boon/protection duration runes, at least i’ve used similar set ups and generally don’t die very easily to just one or two people.

Divinity.8041:

SPVP

This engineer would not die. He had 4 people on him, and had like perm boons on him. I spectated and found he used…

the supply crate, pistol/shield and FT a wrench, and Elixir Gun. He used the healing turret.

IT was unreal!

Well you must spectate gear runes and traits also:-) With healing gear elixir gun can keep you alive very well

How many did he kill?

Guessing he was full bunker.

you can spectate gear and runes?

Divinity.8041:

you can spectate gear and runes?

Mhmm, you can. In spectator mode you can see a player’s build, and gear. You may not know exactly how thy use it but you can see everything they are using. Another thing if you leave a match mid way the points you have earned do not just disappear they are applied to you account immediately so feel free to drop out of anything bother than a tourney to see what other players are using.

Edit:

Just my conjecture but something like this might work.

bunker engi is nice, but guardian bunker > engineer.

Lupanic.6502:

bunker engi is nice, but guardian bunker > engineer.

I have to disagree. Two bunker guardians versus two bunker engineers and engineers won. I got tired of losing on a test build (plus the video driver was acting up) so I switched to my bunker build that is similar to my wvw build around 4:10. We won every round. Guardians cried, “We can’t put out enough damage as bunkers.”

Lupanic.6502:

bunker engi is nice, but guardian bunker > engineer.

I have to disagree. Two bunker guardians versus two bunker engineers and engineers won. I got tired of losing on a test build (plus the video driver was acting up) so I switched to my bunker build that is similar to my wvw build around 4:10. We won every round. Guardians cried, “We can’t put out enough damage as bunkers.”

Okay chaba you made your point :P

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Engi has more raw resistance, and a bit more cc. But thye are more fragile against spike damage IMHO.

IMO in the right hands engi makes the best bunker. With perma vigor your dodges are insane and with the amount of water fields + blast finishers you have you outbreak almost anyone.

Oh and as far as toughness goes we are even with guardian, we win in the HP department though.

The only time people dont die is when your team lacks dps or is plain kitten.

2 strong dps take out any class with any build in the game

Bunker engineers are good at cc, dodging and healing, but bunker guardians are way better at support, downed state control and blocking/invulns. So bunker engineers played very well can be better than a guardian at surviving 1v2 with no allies, but guardians are much better at bunkering on the midpoint or in a teamfight.

Also, if you were in a hotjoin and 4 people were attacking him, you never really know what that proves. It very well could be 4 people autoattacking with soldier’s amulet.

Those guardians are not very good. I’m not trolling, I don’t see any serious skill being brought to bear. There was a severe lack of coordination of burst and CC. Please don’t hold this up as an example of how Engineer bunkers are better than Guardians. You don’t see top tier world class teams that pivot on an Engineer bunker the way they can on a Guardian.

Grackleflint,
It was not intended. It is merely documentation of my experience fighting two bunker guardians to show why I disagree. It was not serious at all. No one was on VoIP. Most people playing are not in top tier world class teams either.

Hmm… Guardian is a better team choice atm for sure, can’t argue there. In just random 1vX situations I feel like a well played engi is still stronger. The reason you see teams rely on there guardian is for the support and while engi provides decent support it’s not as good as guardian.

Also my bunker build is selfish for sure lol

Chaba.5410:

Lupanic.6502:

bunker engi is nice, but guardian bunker > engineer.

I have to disagree. Two bunker guardians versus two bunker engineers and engineers won. I got tired of losing on a test build (plus the video driver was acting up) so I switched to my bunker build that is similar to my wvw build around 4:10. We won every round. Guardians cried, “We can’t put out enough damage as bunkers.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x9_iwJeDZY

Just wait for the upcoming condi guardian bunkers. I think they’ll give Engies a run for their money.

the 4 people were probably really bad.

Simple truth here was that the engineer was good and all four of you were terrible.

If you ever lose even 2v1 in this game you can be absolutely sure that both you and your team-mate played very, very poorly.

His weaknesses:

• Conditions (only 2 cleanses)
• CC (one stunbreaker)

Honestly though, there were 4 of you, autoattack spam would have won you the fight…