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Posted by: Tigger.8035

Tigger.8035

Tools tree trait “kit refinement” makes med kit do a powerful explosion

It’s spammable and benefits from the explosion traits

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Posted by: Lyuben.2613

Lyuben.2613

Its not powerful.

Its very weak, did around 100 damage, when something like bombs was doing 600 for me.
And it didn’t benefit from explosives traits, because it didn’t stack vuln for me.

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Posted by: Redfeather.6401

Redfeather.6401

On my level 37 it does 16 damage. And I can only do it once every 2-3 seconds.

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Posted by: Andazeus.1928

Andazeus.1928

The explosion is weak. Try refinement with the elixir gun. Gives you a super elixir every time. That’s a lot more useful.

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Posted by: draculthemad.6273

draculthemad.6273

Huh. Thats a better suggestion than the original post. I can actually thing of several ways to use that.

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Posted by: Tigger.8035

Tigger.8035

Flamethrowers flame wave, tool belt kits needle field, and the healing field of elixir gun all have moderate cool downs before it works again :/

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Posted by: Rehero.7821

Rehero.7821

Regardless of cooldowns the other kits kit refinements are much better. The medkit requires you to be in melee range to do subpar damage and also requires you to continue mashing the 6 button which means you won’t be using your 1-5. You are better off sticking with pistol getting the aoe damage from pistols auto.

In terms of how useful the medkits kit refinement is, it doesn’t come anywhere near the utility elixir gun or tool kit provides with kit refinement:

-Tool kit provides an aoe cripple that persists for quite a while that can be both offensive or defensive depending on the situation.

-Elixir gun provides an aoe condition removal as well as a light field and you can keep this light field up 24/7 chaining them back to back.

Both of these are use and forget allowing you to get back to your 1-5. So no… The medkits kit refinement is not that strong.

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Posted by: Draconus.9823

Draconus.9823

I don’t know about how much Med Kit can be used to the benefit of Kit Refinement, but it can be greatly used with the 6-piece bonus of the Superior Rune of the Adventurer ( “When you use a healing skill, gain 100% endurance (Cooldown: 10 seconds”) . Just pressing “6,” or rather, just activating the Med Kit, whether you are already on it or not will activate the 6-piece rune bonus. I don’t know if other rune sets have something similar, so it would only be for Condition Damage builds, but guaranteed 100% endurance every 10 secs can be very helpful.

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Posted by: draculthemad.6273

draculthemad.6273

Its worth noting however that the cooldown on the super elixir proc is NOT shared with the actual ability.

Its basically an extra free combo field and condition removal.

Now I just need to find a spot for it in my build without swapping it for something I already enjoy >.<.

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Posted by: coglin.1496

coglin.1496

The med kit, kit refinement ability doesn’t make much sense. I would love to see it changed to either a small AoE heal, an AoE regen, or perhaps an AoE removal of one condition. I find the other kit refinement effect appropriate, and as mentioned above, I use heck out of the elixir gun kit refinement to keep up a steady regen in dungeons and what not as support assistance.

Poor craftsman blame their tools. Poor players blame their Engineer.

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Posted by: lordmitz.2047

lordmitz.2047

yeah, i’ve been running kit refinement since i could first unlock it (it sounded neat) and now i’m almost 60 and love it. but i just don’t get why the medkit has a bomb. and a rubbish one at that. like the above guy said, it should be something heal based.

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Posted by: DesertRose.2031

DesertRose.2031

According to the wiki Kit Refinement mimics certain skills:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Kit_Refinement

I was very excited about that trait when I read that Detonate, the Med Kit’s special ability, does Knockback.
Dunno if it’s a bug that it does not, but that alone would make the trait worthwhile for Med Kit.

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Posted by: ZoGoNDragoN.4873

ZoGoNDragoN.4873

Still it needs more dmg to be effective

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Posted by: Redfeather.6401

Redfeather.6401

According to the wiki Kit Refinement mimics certain skills:
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Kit_Refinement

I was very excited about that trait when I read that Detonate, the Med Kit’s special ability, does Knockback.
Dunno if it’s a bug that it does not, but that alone would make the trait worthwhile for Med Kit.

If it was a knockback that would be awesome, and warrant a cooldown. I’d love it then.