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Posted by: Thobek.1730

Thobek.1730

what’s the current state of guardians atm? I’ve just got back into mine from about a year ago, followed a few guides, read a lot of threads but find I’m dying like really quickly against rogues and elementalists (its the burst + consistent damage/conditions and easy escapes), and if I managed to hurt them I can’t seem to chase them down. Its either I die or they run away injured. It all seems a bit depressing. I think I need some good guardians to tell me its going to be ok

What’s the best thing we have to offer? What would be the best build to go for since I’m kind of new to the in WvW? I basically don’t want to die and do some good damage.

how do we match up against other solo roamers? or should I just forget about doing that?

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Posted by: bigboss.3658

bigboss.3658

Switch to warrior.

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Posted by: Thobek.1730

Thobek.1730

lol, thanks for that. not ready to unleash my warrior just yet

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Posted by: Booms.2594

Booms.2594

guardian is one of the best classes to deal with burst due to our blocks and blinds, typically you shouldn’t lose unless youre totally outplayed.

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Posted by: Lonewolf Kai.3682

Lonewolf Kai.3682

“…in a good place.”

“Be like water” – Bruce Lee

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Posted by: Chaotic.9742

Chaotic.9742

You should be eating thieves up if you’re med guard. As for ele…that matchup is in their favor. As for the running, run GS with either scepter/sword and use the gap closers wisely and immob if you choose scepter to keep them in the kill range. Practice makes perfect, you’ll get there.

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Posted by: Teckos.1305

Teckos.1305

A good spot.

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Posted by: Saiyan.1704

Saiyan.1704

Idk about wvw… but for tpvp some of the top end builds are dps medi and condi.
Guardians typically Run mace/Focus to eat up burst attacks.
( I never see a guardian without one focus equipped unless they’re bunker heals or something.)

I run a spirit condition build w/ mace/focus and GS. I have Some issues with mesmers & glass theifs, that only appear to do that 2-4k eviscerate… then stealth for 10s. So annoying!
P.S
And yes.. spirit weapons are viable now. So many people keep asking me that.

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Posted by: Charak.9761

Charak.9761

Whenever I stream spvp it’s always been spirit weapons however mesmers are a hard counter simply because they can camp stealth until my spirits die off.

thieves are easy in any guardian build simply because they kill themselves from retaliation.

Eles are on equal footing, fights will stall until one makes a mistake or gets reinforcement.

Solo roaming is easy as a guardian, 15 second camp clears.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/Builds-The-Everything/first#post4182187

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Posted by: brandon.6735

brandon.6735

I think it’s more about knowing the enemy. If know the enemy then u can have a much better chance of beating it. I remember a year ago i had lots of trouble with thieves with my guardian but after lvling a thief to 80 and playing him they are much easier for me to kill.

Guardianhipster
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Posted by: Thobek.1730

Thobek.1730

Do you guys know of any really good current WvW guardians that write guides, videos, etc? I’ve found a lot but not many are current.

I feel like I’m getting better… but still avoid solo roaming unless I have some decent support.

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Posted by: Dahkeus.8243

Dahkeus.8243

Yea, Guards are still one of the most solid professions in the game. Most dungeons excel with at least 1 guard and the ones that don’t are only improved by bringing a higher offense/lower defense class just because the content is so easy.

Guards and Wars are still the heart WvW groups and are the best classes for commanders.

Guards are also a guaranteed in at least 1 spot of most competitive groups and a bunker build will move you quickly up the solo queue leaderboard faster than most other builds/classes.

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Posted by: Tiibags Tyler.3125

Tiibags Tyler.3125

Look at the healway build. I run my own custom variation and win 1v1’s 95% of the time, and I win often in 2v1 or even 3v1 situations. I’m a good theory crafter and a good player too, but the base build is also good. If you have the money get runes of the traveler for the passive 25% movement speed. It helps a bunch.

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Posted by: EFWinters.5421

EFWinters.5421

Guardians are efficient at leveling.

Guardians have great utilities that makes dungeons and fractals much easier.

Guardian is the best profession for WvW and stacking more of them doesn’t really have any downsides to it.

Guardian is super easy and pretty much required to do well in sPvP.

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Posted by: Thobek.1730

Thobek.1730

win 1v1’s 95% of the time, and I win often in 2v1 or even 3v1 situations. I’m a good theory crafter and a good player too

You sound like the right person to talk to… what’s your magical build.

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Posted by: Reborn.2934

Reborn.2934

current state ?

sucks

guardians’s best is that are all good looking

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Posted by: Thobek.1730

Thobek.1730

current state ?

sucks

guardians’s best is that are all good looking

are you kidding me. all guardians know for a fact we are the best looking in the game. but what I want is a good build. not the sexy build… that’s default for us. I mean seriously what gutter scum do you think we are … rogues?

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Posted by: Reborn.2934

Reborn.2934

current state ?

sucks

guardians’s best is that are all good looking

are you kidding me. all guardians know for a fact we are the best looking in the game. but what I want is a good build. not the sexy build… that’s default for us. I mean seriously what gutter scum do you think we are … rogues?

Soz , i can offer only my beauty for free in this game

look here for builds that are not mine : http://www.metabattle.com/builds/meta/guardian.php

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Posted by: Tiibags Tyler.3125

Tiibags Tyler.3125

win 1v1’s 95% of the time, and I win often in 2v1 or even 3v1 situations. I’m a good theory crafter and a good player too

You sound like the right person to talk to… what’s your magical build.

Haha, like I said, Healway was the best starting point for me. The best way to have a good build is just to add your own vlavour and make it unique. When it’s good, you’ll also lear a lot faster and therefore be able to handle 2v1 or even 3v1 situations better.

Here’s what my custom Healway does, before it was finished. I nopw have even more DPS and sustainability, and I now use a Hammer/GS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF8jU_lB-Lw&list=UUsNzgpN8t32m_UCP6RIPgKw

and here’s the build I based mine off ofhttps://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/WvW-The-Healway-Guardian/first

Enjoy :P

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Posted by: pauli.5290

pauli.5290

what’s the current state of guardians atm? I’ve just got back into mine from about a year ago, followed a few guides, read a lot of threads but find I’m dying like really quickly against rogues and elementalists (its the burst + consistent damage/conditions and easy escapes), and if I managed to hurt them I can’t seem to chase them down. Its either I die or they run away injured. It all seems a bit depressing. I think I need some good guardians to tell me its going to be ok

What’s the best thing we have to offer? What would be the best build to go for since I’m kind of new to the in WvW? I basically don’t want to die and do some good damage.

how do we match up against other solo roamers? or should I just forget about doing that?

Hi, i felt the same and i found a solution that works for me. My Retaliation-Meditiation build counters both burst and condi damage very well….maybe it works for you too….gl and hf!

Perma Retaliation build

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Posted by: TheFamster.7806

TheFamster.7806

Guardians should be buffed as in reduced cd on certain skills, fixing the auto attack chain in one handed sword, adding another ranged weapon, and buffing or removing shield entirely.

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Posted by: Obtena.7952

Obtena.7952

^^ If you watched the dev broadcast on profession balance, you would know why none of this will be happening.

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Posted by: Aza.2105

Aza.2105

Guardian is a poor roamer, its manageable but its not the innate design of the class. The innate design of the class is a frontline ally supporter. Guardian is suppose to provide mitigation to their allies via boons and heals, bringing allies sustain up to guardian level.

While the ability to solo is possible, Anet purposely poked holes in this concept to prevent the class from becoming to powerful on the battlefield.

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Posted by: Farzo.8410

Farzo.8410

Guardians truly are in a good spot.

But it’s incredibly stale. There are a lot of quality of life changes that could be made to make it more ’’yay’’ to play a Guardian.

ArenaNet haven’t touched Guardian for a long time, and the latest Grandmaster traits we got are really, really, really lackluster. No one used them, and no one would consider using them for serious gameplay, only for kitten and giggles.

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Posted by: Aza.2105

Aza.2105

and the latest Grandmaster traits we got are really, really, really lackluster. No one used them, and no one would consider using them for serious gameplay, only for kitten and giggles.

Actually all the new traits are really good. The only problem is the guardian communities general perception of what the class is, therefore they feel the new traits are bad.

The only one that is debatable is purity of body, but I haven’t sat down to experiment with it long enough to give a objective view on it.

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Posted by: Apolo.5942

Apolo.5942

to be honest, the starting hp pool for guardians is right down pathetic, you are less tanky than 2 out of the 3 clothies out there.

Playing offensive GS you are litteraly as thin as a rogue, with much the same mechanics, exchanging stealth for heals through meditations.

In all honestly there is a fundamental disconnect between what most my self included think a paladin should be and what the guardian is.

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Posted by: Aeolus.3615

Aeolus.3615

Guardians truly are in a good spot.

But it’s incredibly stale. There are a lot of quality of life changes that could be made to make it more ’’yay’’ to play a Guardian.

ArenaNet haven’t touched Guardian for a long time, and the latest Grandmaster traits we got are really, really, really lackluster. No one used them, and no one would consider using them for serious gameplay, only for kitten and giggles.

the spirit weapons line and the blue bubbles/domes whatever, acould be improved also.

1st April joke, when gw2 receives a “balance” update.

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Posted by: TheFamster.7806

TheFamster.7806

I don’t mind the low health but seriously reduce the cd on certain skills and revamp the new grandmaster traits. Guardian loses out way too much for new grandmaster traits because the old ones are so effective and useful. Also please give us another ranged weapon because sometimes scepters just won’t do.

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