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Posted by: Mr Vivi Ornitier.4271

Mr Vivi Ornitier.4271

Tome of Wrath: This ability has been replaced by a new Shout: “Feel My Wrath!”
“Feel My Wrath!”: Grant fury for 10 seconds and quickness for 5 seconds to nearby allies. Cooldown 30 seconds.

to put it simply this is not an elite level skill its more of a utility level skill lets take into account that all classes now can give them self quickness with no drawbacks such as

Haste: (Thief) This ability no longer removes endurance. Gain Fury in addition to Quickness when activating this ability.
Quickness: 6 s
Breaks Stun
and x amount of fury

yes this is only on them self but you get my point and it gets worse when you compare it to Time Warp

Time Warp: This skill is now classified as a Glamour. It now pulses 1 second of slow every second on foes in the affected area in addition to it’s previous effect of quickness on allies.

Quickness: 1 s
Number of Targets: 5
Pulses: 11
Duration: 10 s
Radius: 360
Combo Field: Ethereal
Range: 1,200
Slow 1s
Number of Targets: 5
Pulses: 11

so 11s of quickness and 11s of slow

Time warp is in kitten different league when compared to Feel My Wrath defiantly when the hole point of changing the books was to give guards something to use other than renewed focus so how about this

“Feel My Wrath!”: Grant Taunt to foes and quickness for 5 seconds to nearby allies. Cooldown 30 seconds.

Taunt 3s at point blank 2s at 300 range 1s at 600

shouts are predominately used by bunker guards who normally run ever soldiers gear or clerics so fury is a complete waste to them but being able to peal foes from your allies forcing them to engage you would be a lot more helpful and would make this skill stand out compared to Time Warp

now to

Signet of Courage: Passive – While in combat, heal allies around you every 10 seconds. Active: Fully heal nearby allies. Cooldown: 180 seconds.

this will be very short and simple

Healing Signet (Warrior)

Healing: 3,275 (0.5)?
Healing Signet (effect).png Healing Signet: 362 Heal

every warrior knows this signet is more us full left and should never be activated and anet have spent alot of time and effort trying to change this. do you really think an aoe version of this would be anything different?

this is whats wrong

1. because its a signet now your foe knows your using it
2. trying to activate this full heal will result in an instant cc from any player worth their salt
3. using the signet would stop the passive heal

so what do you do you just leave it on passive. yes you could use one of your stability’s to use the heal but that means the only way you can use this skill is by wasting other valuable skills

i used Tome of Courage not just for the heal but the aoe cc and the ranged heals i would even be sneaky and switch it in between round of Academy gaming tournaments helping us win games and ive even used it in lvl 50 fractals

so to put it simply im sad to see a skill that needed skill to use be replaced by a passive skill that will ever be too op so everyone just leaves it on their skill bar for the passive or its just not good enough to compete with renewed focus

please be constructive with all comments and feel free to post your own ideas who knows the devs might even like what they read

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Posted by: Silverkey.2078

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Time warp has a much longer cooldown, so I think this shout is rather good. Maybe it does not feel “elite” because it is weaker and on short cooldown, but this is a good skill!

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Posted by: Saiyan.1704

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“Feel My Wrath!” is a 24 second cd with shout reduction
It can also potentially remove 2 conditions if spec’d.

I think it’s a great skill, definitely Elite status.

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Posted by: Caphalor.5768

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timewarp has 180 sec cd. ofc your 30sec skill is worse. thats called balancing
in addition, for timewarp you need to stand in it. try it in pvp. only usefull for cleaving or rezzing, nothing more. and for that you need a 180sec cd. yay
to your heal: maybe you are just not used to get your heal ruppted thanks to shelter. thats nothing special. ask a nec :P
a full heal for the whole group is pretty strong, would worth it to use your stability to cast it, right?
warrior just don’t use their signet because the activation effect is weak, wouldn’t say that about your skill

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Posted by: Mr Vivi Ornitier.4271

Mr Vivi Ornitier.4271

true time warp is on a longer cool down but mesmers will be able to cast it twice with new elite spec i would gladly take a longer cd for a skill with taunt

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Posted by: Mr Vivi Ornitier.4271

Mr Vivi Ornitier.4271

and to the full heal being useful to cast hmm not really because your have a 3s cast time for it easy to cc it would be more helpful if you just keep the passive

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Posted by: savacli.8172

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I see the active on our Courage signet the same as a War Banner for a Warrior: immensely powerful and should have a various obvious sign that they’re casting it. So yes, if you want to land it you better make sure you have created yourself a window to pull it off and expect to get everyone’s attention while casting it.

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Posted by: Fashion Mage.3712

Fashion Mage.3712

I’d like to see people get Light of Deliverance off reliably without the stability, vitality, and toughness that Tome of Courage provided.

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Posted by: Mallis.4295

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Time warp has 6x the CD.
Even if they can cast it twice the shout has nearly 40% better uptime plus fury.

Also the full heal thing can be paired with stability. It will be realllly good in wvw

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Posted by: Ezrael.6859

Ezrael.6859

Time Warp is also an AoE pulsing Slow as well now.

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Posted by: Mallis.4295

Mallis.4295

I can just see the shenanigans with 5 Guardians going around having permanent Quickness.

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Posted by: snoow.1694

snoow.1694

I would love if it would be that way you discribe it :>

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Posted by: badwolf.2583

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My initial opinions,
Elite shout: its nice, with the right spec it gets condi removal for everyone and a nice buff to damage, i think its probably going to get nerfed a little bit, as it seems excessively powerful.
Elite Signet: i took one look at this and thought “well my hammer guardian is going to be really hard to kill in pve now” as far as the active ability, i honestly dont plan on using it, i usually keep the signet of resolve off cooldown as well, its just more passive healing for a class that already does that alot, might pop the active if things get dire, but i think it should rez dead and downed players to.

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Posted by: DrPhro.5976

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FMW is going to be one of the strongest skills in the game. It would still be amazingly strong with twice the cooldown. There’s no reason it needs to be good for bunkers just because it’s a shout, and there’s little reason to compare it to timewarp which has 6x the cooldown. Timewarp might be slightly better in some of the longer fights, but the fact that you can cast FMW twice in the really long fights and then cast it again in the next fight makes it significantly better than the slow effect.

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Posted by: Manimarco Devil.1790

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The elite skills are in a VERY good place right now. (still need to see the numbers on the signet but the active is solid)

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Posted by: Linnael.1069

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The shout is the single best elite skill in the game for pve. You are making yourself look bad by complaining about it.

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