Guild Wars 2

Hey all,

I’ve been experimenting with various gear sets and stumbled across a particular one that I wanted to try via forum post, but I’m having some problems. Specifically, when I slot everything the same in the builder (gear, food, traits, etc), my numbers don’t match up with the original build.

I’ve made sure to mentally account for WvW Minor Bloodlust and max stacks of Applied Fortitude/Strength, max stacks of Bloodlust Sigil (as those are mentioned in the original build). But even with those, the numbers are still off (2179 Power versus 2223, and different Healing Power and Condition Damage for example, again, even accounting for the buffs the original build claims to have active).

Here is my recreation of the build in the builder. Same gear, same traits, same sigils, same runes, etc. But like I said, my numbers aren’t quite the same. Something is off. Compare to the original build.

Recreated Build: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fVAQJASWlsApVo1CxfH8DRRCBljNY/hnnirDwFOAA-TlCBABCu/gYKPcUJIpqrglSMAeQAqqSRi6aY4IEsxlUgMA6LA-w

And below is the original build. This post lists the gear selection, see the picture attached within the post for the raw numbers for comparison to my recreated build link.

Original Build by Brutaly: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/I-Have-Never-Been-As-Frustrated-As-Now/first#post3963981

EDIT: Here’s the numbers difference added into this post to point out the math disparity I am asking for help with

To try and make things more clear for anyone else who happens to take a look, here are the stats of the two builds side-by-side:

This is with Plate of Truffle Steak, Master Maintenance Oil, WvW Minor Bloodlust, Max WvW Applied Fortitude Stacks, Max WvW Applied Strength Stacks, and Max Bloodlust Sigil Stacks for both builds.

Please note that the WvW buffs do not show up in the builder link, but are applied here after the fact (I’ve added them in manually).

Original Picture vs When I Put It Into the Build Editor

• 2223 Power |vs| 2209 Power (14 Point Difference)
• 1709 Toughness |vs| 1700 Toughness (9 Point Difference)
• 1738 Vitality |vs| 1729 Vitality (9 Point Difference)
• 1852 Precision |vs| 1820 Precision (32 Point Difference)
• 642 Ferocity |vs| 673 Ferocity (31 Point Difference)
• 422 Cond Damage |vs| 403 Cond Damage (19 Point Difference)
• 1065 Healing Power |vs| 1011 Healing Power (54 Point Difference)

I was hoping the Guard community could help me out. Is there something I’m overlooking? A mistake I made in the builder maybe?

Any help in explaining the numbers difference would be greatly appreciated!

It may just be the build editor. Most likely the WvW bonuses and the bloodlust stacks. And if he was in a party with group buffs maybe?

Thanks for the reply

It could be the build editor, that’s true.

As I said in the first post, I made sure to account for the WvW bonuses and Bloodlust stacks, so those specifically are not what is causing the number disparity (unless I am extremely inept or completely unaware of something).

If the culprit was the global WvW Bloodlust buff, then I would see consistent number differences across each stat (every stat being lower/higher by 30 points for Minor WvW Bloodlust for example). However, the number differences are not consistent, so nailing down what the issue might be is elusive. I’ve even gone as far as to review the entire previous year’s patch history just to make sure I haven’t missed something that might be responsible for the differing numbers, hehe.

I appreciate you offering up some thoughts to help me solve the issue though! I’m still sitting here scratching my head, and I may just have to chalk it up a builder error…though if that’s the case, it is a pretty odd one.

The build editor often miscalculates values on my builds, even pretty simple spvp builds.

And don’t forget about infusions. Most of the disparities can be covered by 2-3 +5 infusions.