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I missed this thread earlier but just posted this in the AH/Crit Hammer sticky earlier today ironically enough because I think I’m on the lower end of requirements. Not sure how some of you are getting has high as you are. Only thing I can think of is quality of gear.
I’m in Exotic Knight’s Draconic, Exotic PvP Invader Hammer, Rare Mithril Accessories, Rare Rune’s (5 Eagle 1 Lysse). I feel I can hold my own as I roam out in WvWvW but honestly I’m still struggling with burst classes such as Thiefs. I know it isn’t a issue of OP but one of knowing when to do what, but I’m just crappy at it I guess.
43% — Recommended: 40-60% crit
2,842 – Recommended: 2800-3400 Attack
14,085 Recommended: 14k-18k health
2,820 – Recommended: 2400-3300 armour
106 — Recommended: 200-1200 heal power
32 – Recommended: 51-105% critdamage
Johnny Johnny – Ranger (Ehmry Bay)
Hárvey Wallbanger – Alt Warrior (Ehmry Bay)
Having issues with Thieves is probably because your health is sorta low.
Since they’re mostly a burst profession, if their burst can get you down to less than 50% health for example, they can go on and try to finish you off with Heartseeker (deals more damage the lower you are).
Other than this burst, centered on Stealth and Backstab, they have crappy Defense and Health.
Since I usually play with high Power and Vitality, one Whirling Wrath is enough to make them down to 50% or less, depending on how much I crit (I play with low crit) while their Backstab deals about 33% of my health (depending on the Thief it’s usually lower, around 25%, but the max I got hit is for 33% health). That’s when they get desperate and start running away…
So I kinda changed my set from the first time I posted, I got less health but a ton more Defense, more Crit Chance, but less Crit Damage.
my stats and my crit damage is 75 wondering what i should give up for a little more survivability in WvWvW
Guild: Legion Thirteen [LT]
Server: Maguuma
2.9k attack
2.9k armor
62% crit chance
75% crit damage
15k health
Build suited for WvWvW.
DPS/Suport
Attack 2,727
Critical Chance 45%(50 with Greatsword Sigil)
Critical Damage 54%
Armor 2,812
Health 16,855
Healing Power 430
Armor: Berserker Shoulders, Gauntlets
Valkyrie leggings
Rest TA armor
Accessories: Ruby Amulet rest Emerald
Also with the two consumables, Bowl of Curry Butternut Squash Soup and
Hardened Sharpening Stones Attack, Critical Chance and Damage change too;
Attack 2,853
Critical Chance 55%
Critical Damage 64%
http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr215/Derantus/gw154.jpg
(edited by Razandor.1320)
Balanced build, run dungeons etc all good.
Quick edit since its not shown – 51% crit multi
2.6k attack
3.1k armor
50% crit chance
42% crit damage
14k health
some hours after it hit level 80
Armor set = Power, Vit, Toughness
Neck = Power, Vit, Crit Dmg
Rings = Power, Vit, Crit Dmg
Ear rings = Power, Precision, Toughness
Health pool = 21565
Healing = 300
Build 0/10/30/30/0
AH build with Hammer/Staff, Sword-Focus/Staff usually used
73 crit dmg (5% crit chance on the hammer)
heres mine,
i think its fairly balanced, how muc hdo stats matter tho when your downscaled?
Attributes:
Power: 1522
Precision: 1037
Toughness: 1616
Vitality: 1326
Breakdown
Attack: 2633
Critical chance: 10%
Critical damage: 10%
Armor: 2827
Health: 14905
Healing Power: 1405
Just in case any one is curious to the build, and yes I am a strong believer that Healing power is awesome. :P So please, please add Healing ascended back slots!
(edited by Kellie.3687)
New Stats:
2010 Power
1541 Precision
2101 Toughness
1443 Vitality
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Attack: 3121
Crit Chance: 34% Crit Dmg: 30
Defense: 3312
HP: 16,075
Here’s mine. Health doesn’t matter much as long as you’re on your toes when a thief is on you.
Also:
+5 crit sigils (not sure if that shows up yet in window)
0 condition damage
39 critical damage
1211 defense
300 healing power
So I think I finally found the perfect stats for me. It doesn’t look that impressive, but I have 86 crit dmg. So when I use the right food and oil, I get my crit rate to 40% and also gain 100 toughness. Finally have it where I can instagib most people and still have survivability. Still have to get Ascended gear, but that’s just like +2 so I’m not worried about it.
I was also able to achieve this, but with only 69 crit dmg. This is probably the safer build to go.
Heavens Rage
(edited by Harbinger.8637)
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/Assembly-Language-s-Support-Fractals-Build
(edited by alcopaul.2156)
Here’s mine. Health doesn’t matter much as long as you’re on your toes when a thief is on you.
I would love to know what armor your wearing, i would love to get the stats you have, mind sharing? please and thankyou
Harbinger what gear and build are u using? i have similar stats as u with a 0 5 30 30 5 build but with arround 100 less toughness and 6% less crit dmg
i mean the pic with arround 3.2k armor i only have 3k and ofc buffed to with oil wich gives prec and the omnom cake.. wich fire sigill on GS and on hammer i use the one wich gives u life
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
Harbinger what gear and build are u using? i have similar stats as u with a 0 5 30 30 5 build but with arround 100 less toughness and 6% less crit dmg
i mean the pic with arround 3.2k armor i only have 3k and ofc buffed to with oil wich gives prec and the omnom cake.. wich fire sigill on GS and on hammer i use the one wich gives u life
Armor is four pieces of Solider and two of Knight.
Weapon is Valkyrie.
When it comes to my trinkets for the top picture. My back piece is PVT w/Exquisite Beryl Jewel, and the rest is Berserker w/Exquisite Beryl Jewel. Bottom picture is Knight w/Exquisite Beryl Jewel.
Runes are x6 Divinity, so that where I’m probably getting more crit from. I don’t really remember the build for the screens. I change them a lot, depending on how I feel.
Edit: Actually I’m specd 0/5/30/30/5 right now, and this is how it looks unbuff.
Heavens Rage
(edited by Harbinger.8637)
where the heck do i gt soldier gear of?
and btw i use ruby orbs = more bang for the bucks.. and a assassin back wich berserker jewel so i dont understand why i only have 62% crit dmg and u have 68% and i uses 3 piece of valkyre and 3 of knights with valk weapons and knights jewelry
how much crit dmg d0o u have now with this build?
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
here is my screen with my stats unbuffed with a 0 5 30 30 5 build
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
where the heck do i gt soldier gear of?
and btw i use ruby orbs = more bang for the bucks.. and a assassin back wich berserker jewel so i dont understand why i only have 62% crit dmg and u have 68% and i uses 3 piece of valkyre and 3 of knights with valk weapons and knights jewelry
how much crit dmg d0o u have now with this build?
The temples’ Karma armor is PVT, but you have to mix it. Also all WvW invader gear is PVT. I also heard some dungeon armor is PVT, but I don’t do them that often so I don’t know which ones exactly .
For crit dmg I still have 69 if I use my Knight trinkets, then 86 with my Berserker ones. I’ve started to use bowl of curry butternut squash soup though (+100 precision +10% critical damage) So it’s 79 and 96.
Heavens Rage
i dont understand why u have 2k more hp then me
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
nvm u have 10% less crit then me
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
changed a bit my armor
u think to get kinda 40 more attack 5 more crit dmg 600 more hp and 40 more armor is worth loosing 4% of crit? the crit is important to me as i uses AH build with omnom cake and the heal sigil on hammer
i play with GS and hammer
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
I personally think ~40% crit rate is more then enough, but ofc the higher the better.
Heavens Rage
0/10/30/30/0
All Berzerk gear with the exception of
Hands- Pwr/pre/tough
Leggings- Pwr/tough/vit
1 Karka accesory from Lost Shores end event
Critical Chance- 43%
Critical Damage- 91
No Food buffs
need to test this but it looks like i crit often enough to make the lifesteal proccs happen often enough
How many Dzagonurs and Gunnars do you need to kill me? Over 9000!!
I went full Knights (Draconic) gear with 5x Runes of Ranger and 1x Rune of Lyssa. I also couple this with 2 two handed weapons (greatsword and hammer), both with power/precision/toughness and both having superior sigil of blood. This brings me to this:
Power: 1646
Precision: 1743
Toughness: 1825
Vitality: 1343
Crit Chance – 45%
Armour – 3112
Health – 16, 201
I really like this build – the full knights gear adds the much needed Power/Precision/Toughness, and the 2 two handed weapons add that as well as cream on top. The Sigils of blood proc often enough that it is a nice heal. And the runes are there to up the crit chance and crit damage. Overall an excellent build I love. Might not carry the burst of a full berserker guardian, but I am actually able to burst on my own while still being survivable.
I have a 74 guardian and was wondering if at 80 would it be worth it to balance ALL attributes? I feel like guardian is the only class that could pull it off, to be the jack of all trades since you can heal, tank and dps all decently.
Not to mention you could save yourself the trouble of switching gear/builds
(edited by Rich.5371)
where the heck do i gt soldier gear of?
and btw i use ruby orbs = more bang for the bucks.. and a assassin back wich berserker jewel so i dont understand why i only have 62% crit dmg and u have 68% and i uses 3 piece of valkyre and 3 of knights with valk weapons and knights jewelry
how much crit dmg d0o u have now with this build?
The temples’ Karma armor is PVT, but you have to mix it. Also all WvW invader gear is PVT. I also heard some dungeon armor is PVT, but I don’t do them that often so I don’t know which ones exactly .
For crit dmg I still have 69 if I use my Knight trinkets, then 86 with my Berserker ones. I’ve started to use bowl of curry butternut squash soup though (+100 precision +10% critical damage) So it’s 79 and 96.
Soldiers armor from dungeons: AC, SE, HotW
I have a 74 guardian and was wondering if at 80 would it be worth it to balance ALL attributes? I feel like guardian is the only class that could pull it off, to be the jack of all trades since you can heal, tank and dps all decently.
Not to mention you could save yourself the trouble of switching gear/builds
Mixing knights and valkarie or pvt and beserkers will balance you out.
Anet lied (where’s the Manifesto now?)
3104 Power
29% Crit Chance
65% Crit Damage
3125 Armor
16,815 Hp
Unbuffed.
Everyone is bad but me.
Anet ruined Gw2.
Full Berserk armors and trinkets + PVT weapons that i wish i could transmute them.
0/25/30/10/5
Ah I found an old Picture of my guardian – This is what I run with when I combine Knights armor with Ranger/Lyssa Runes and trinkets (so basically Knights gear with berserker runes and trinkets). Mind you this is an older pic (can’t figure out anymore how to screen shot on a mac haha) – the the numbers are a bit low since the trinkits in the pictures are the older lower level trinkets before I replaced them – you still get a nice balanced idea though
Been working on achieving the “perfect” stats. Think I’m maxed out, can’t really do much else with out sacrificing crit rate(30) and crit dmg(48). If anyone has suggestions? I’d love to hear them.
Heavens Rage
(edited by Harbinger.8637)
Harbinger, I think you’ve got too much HP and too low Crit chance/damage, but that’s just my preference. Your other stats are awesome. Maybe reduce some of that vit to raise the precision and crit damage? Could be food/oils perhaps and switch out a couple pieces of equipment to berserker.
Same thing to you Barricade.
Lovely stats though. I myself want 3k attack/armor and high hp, but don’t want to sacrifice my crit chance/damage. I’ve got the 3k attack, and 36% crit chance with 75% crit damage, but my armor is 2800 and health 16k+.
I usually use food/oil to increase precision and get it up to about 45%.
What I’d like to know is what do you use to get 30% crit rate?
(edited by Lonewolf Kai.3682)
I actually fixed most of the problem. I put Sigil of Perception on my hammer, with 25 stacks my crit rate goes to 42%. It’s pretty easy to get 25 stacks in WvW, just kill some deer and npcs real quick. There’s not much I can do about the 48 crit dmg though.
My gear is really mixed so I could still get a decent crit rate and dmg
Helm- Knight
Shoulder- Soldier
Chest- Soldier
Gloves- Soldier
Legging- Knight
Boots- Soldier
x6 runes of Soldier
My greatsword is Soldier and my hammer Valkyrie.
Backpiece, Amulet, and one ring is Soldier
Earrings, and the other ring is Knight
All of them use Exquisite Beryl Jewel
Keep in mind I have no Ascended gear.
Heavens Rage
(edited by Harbinger.8637)
Yeah, I don’t have any Ascended stuff either. I need to get my fractal levels up, but its hard to find a lowbie level group nowadays.
You’re using Sunrise in that picture, is that not a Soldier stat weapon? Or is it transmuted, I guess.