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Posted by: Quick Mouse.7635

Quick Mouse.7635

So I was theorycrafting a dps guardian build for pvp. Here’s the link:

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-7kitten;0NFk30G3wF-90;9;49TT;01;059A09B;45wW0U;1Bk-2Bk-25BP

A total of +40% damage with sword vs. burning targets.
Lots of sources of burning.

Sword/torch seems obvious but I’m not sure what to put for weapon swap. Scepter/focus seems like a valid choice for the ranged option, extra blind, block, immobilize to setup for sword burst.

What do you guys think?

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Posted by: Lumines.3916

Lumines.3916

I find the lack of Inspired Virtues and Vigorous Precision hindering this build. Otherwise, not really reinventing the wheel here.

I’m also not very big on the radiance trait lines in general, none of them are really gamechanging. Grandmaster for a +15% crit chance on one weapon set seems really kittenty when 10/5/30/5/20 offers you much more sustain against conditions and therefore more breathing room while doing just a tad less dmg.

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Posted by: Harbinger.8637

Harbinger.8637

10/30/30/0/0 is pretty much the max dps you can go while still maintaining some sustain. Only thing I would change would be rune for the most part. If you’re going for max dps like this better of just going Scholar. If you don’t feel comfortable with that then Ranger would be a good choice also. It’s bugged so you always get a 5% damage increase when using it.

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Posted by: Quick Mouse.7635

Quick Mouse.7635

I agree that the grandmaster radiance trait could be more appealing if, for example, it also reduced the recharge of sword skills. However taking so many points out of radiance means you lose the 10% sword damage and +10% damage vs targets with conditions, or 20% total damage. That’s a lot of deeps :O

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Posted by: Lumines.3916

Lumines.3916

To each and his own, I prefer not stack all my cards on just damage and damage alone as in higher level play, a build without much self sustain is extremely easy to punish if they simply avoid or negate your burst.

Unlike a Thief, it’s very easy to see a Guardian coming and what they are doing. A thief also can burst much more frequently than a Guardian does and so they do just fine going the rush rush kill them before they kill me route. The biggest burst combo you can pull off as a Guard will require to pop two of your utilities and a 45 CD on focus, not to mention if they break your shield, there goes a bulk of your damage.

You lack the resets stealth classes like Mesmers and Thieves enjoy, with this trait load out you also forfeit the Guardian’s greatest strength, boon stacking with virtues and stability (most important boon in pvp srsly). So really what you have here is a one-trick pony build that relies on a do or die strategy that I just don’t think is that practical in practice.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQRAsf7dlUgiDnGyKEfYFSmiVCBtFUVIewFc9AiioGC-TkAg0CnIYSxkjJDTSmsMtLA

Is what I like, while retaining your weapon choices, you can replace SYG with Contemplation for more self sustain but at the cost of team fight utility.

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Posted by: Devils.3679

Devils.3679

yeah this is an ok set up but in pvp witht he nerco/condi meta i would rune purging flame over judges intervention and healing signet over shelter.
Purging Flames is much better as it is condi cleanse and good dps on points.

I not sure how long fury last when you use a medi but i also rather take Purity for more condi removal.

10/25/30/5 is what i run. But thats my playstyle maybe i like to dodge roll a lot in order to avoid dmg.

I also use divinity runes

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Posted by: Arlette.9684

Arlette.9684

yeah this is an ok set up but in pvp witht he nerco/condi meta i would rune purging flame over judges intervention and healing signet over shelter.
Purging Flames is much better as it is condi cleanse and good dps on points.

I not sure how long fury last when you use a medi but i also rather take Purity for more condi removal.

10/25/30/5 is what i run. But thats my playstyle maybe i like to dodge roll a lot in order to avoid dmg.

I also use divinity runes

did they fix purging flames? last time I tried it, you had to walk out and back in to cleanse conditions.

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Posted by: foofad.5162

foofad.5162

yeah this is an ok set up but in pvp witht he nerco/condi meta i would rune purging flame over judges intervention and healing signet over shelter.
Purging Flames is much better as it is condi cleanse and good dps on points.

I not sure how long fury last when you use a medi but i also rather take Purity for more condi removal.

10/25/30/5 is what i run. But thats my playstyle maybe i like to dodge roll a lot in order to avoid dmg.

I also use divinity runes

did they fix purging flames? last time I tried it, you had to walk out and back in to cleanse conditions.

It clears 3 conditions instantly on use.

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Posted by: Arlette.9684

Arlette.9684

does it pulse further clearing more or?

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Posted by: Quick Mouse.7635

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@ Arlette. No. It removes 3 conditions when you use it. For it’s duration, you get a buff that reduces condi duration on you by 33%. The buff lasts 1 second and pulses for 1second while you stand in the field.

I was using this build in hotjoins, soloq, teamq and dueling arenas last night and I can say it is hella fun! The build is kinda squishy so duels we’re intense but I won most of them. In teamq it provided really nice spike damage in team fights, although without many escapes if the other team figures out where all the damage is coming from it can get sketchy. In soloq this build just destroys. No one really expects a guard to do this kind of damage so you can catch a lot of unsuspecting people. I went undefeated in soloqs

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Posted by: PrZone.4753

PrZone.4753

10/0/30/5/25 is a much better setup imo