Guild Wars 2

Hi guys,

I’m redesigning my WvW build and I cannot decide what runes to use. I currently use melandru but I cannot decide if it is worth it vs hard condition removal. Here is the build I currently have::

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQJASWlUgKDXFSLEm4EhVBBi9AjZsjXPcIFZIA-jkBB4fAUEAJoFRjtMqIasakYqYER1yAwMBA-w

I have a few target numbers that I would like to get too ( or at least close too ) if possible:

Attack: 2900
Armor: 3400
HP: 20,000
40% Crit Chance
80% Crit Damage

Just having difficulty deciding on which runes to go with, also if there is a better way of optimizing the gear to reach those numbers.

Opinions?

Thanks

Traveler (or Speed if you’re on a budget).

Because we’re Guardians, and everybody gets a 25% move speed Signet or Trait except us.

Whit your build I see only 23% critical rate and you’re not able to obtain fury.

I agree whit Ludus.
There’s only 2 class that can’t obtain passive speed buff: Guardian and Engi. But engi can obtain permanente swiftness.

Whit more speed you can escape from your enemy or follow your group easy.

Silv.9207:

I agree whit Ludus.
There’s only 2 class that can’t obtain passive speed buff: Guardian and Engi. But engi can obtain permanente swiftness.

Actually, Engineers have this now. Power Shoes got fixed to work outside of combat. Guess they decided that it was unfair for Engineers not to have 25% run speed activate all the time on their trait, since everyone else has access to this.

Yup…everybody else…

Silv.9207:

Whit your build I see only 23% critical rate and you’re not able to obtain fury.

I agree whit Ludus.
There’s only 2 class that can’t obtain passive speed buff: Guardian and Engi. But engi can obtain permanente swiftness.

Whit more speed you can escape from your enemy or follow your group easy.

He’s probably counting on food and sigil

Maladon.5760:

Silv.9207:

Whit your build I see only 23% critical rate and you’re not able to obtain fury.

I agree whit Ludus.
There’s only 2 class that can’t obtain passive speed buff: Guardian and Engi. But engi can obtain permanente swiftness.

Whit more speed you can escape from your enemy or follow your group easy.

He’s probably counting on food and sigil

Correct. Food and sigil bring it up to 37%. The idea was to be tanky but put out some spike damage with the high crit dmg.

Dolyak is a no. This rune is almost worthless. Heals 30 HP every second, not even close to being useful

Soldier or Melandru is a bit tougher. However I’d go with Melandru. Eventually in a fight, all your shouts will be on CD. This means you’ll have no condition removers. With Melandru, when your shouts are on CD. You’ll at least be reducing condition duration until your shouts come back up. If you weren’t running PoV then Soldier would be better.

Melandru still worth it even though im running -40% condi duration foods?

Lucente.5071:

Melandru still worth it even though im running -40% condi duration foods?

Yes it stacks. So it would be -65% condition duration.

More Deeps: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Rune_of_Hoelbrak

I never leave home w/o them.

Silv.9207:

Whit your build I see only 23% critical rate and you’re not able to obtain fury.

I agree whit Ludus.
There’s only 2 class that can’t obtain passive speed buff: Guardian and Engi. But engi can obtain permanente swiftness.

Whit more speed you can escape from your enemy or follow your group easy.

Mesmer’s also don’t have a OOC movement buff… Let’s not forget about that.

Soldier all the way. The condition removal is a life saver.

depends what you intend to use this build for in WvW as well. if you’ll most likely be running with folk, and always running a full shout bar, maybe soldier runes are more for you.

thuogh, melandru with – condi duration food is very strong as well. and if eel SLIGHTLY more flexible, because you’re not “missing out” on the 6th rune bonus from soldier’s when you’re not running full shouts. but maybe i’m just nit picking.

All valid points. Thanks for the feedback. I dont know that ill run more than two shouts. Purging flames condi removal + fire field is too valuable for solo and group play.

I’ll have to give my vote for Melandru also. -67% duration is nothing to sneeze at in WvW, and it’ll let you completely forget about most conditions period. With PoV, you can actively get rid of whatever does manage to stick around for too long.

Also, for damage, I personally like Citadel runes for the 30s fury. 5/6 is good enough with a ruby orb, but sometimes the bomb damage can be helpful, just throwing that out there. (they’re also super cheap)

I got rid of my Soldier runes for Melandru, and it was worth it.

how about 2 water 2 monk 2 travelers for the boon duration? Anyone feel that competes with melandru/soldiers?

Xhean.3452:

how about 2 water 2 monk 2 travelers for the boon duration? Anyone feel that competes with melandru/soldiers?

not in the slightest. Boon duration doesn’t really help you live longer, most boons just get stripped

I would say probably only for a pure support guardian, but its not terribly viable in WvW unless you only group play and even then….

okey, thanks. Gonna pick up some melandru’s then I think

Melandru seems to be the favourite even though we lack speed.

Ludus Rex.1562:

Silv.9207:

I agree whit Ludus.
There’s only 2 class that can’t obtain passive speed buff: Guardian and Engi. But engi can obtain permanente swiftness.

Actually, Engineers have this now. Power Shoes got fixed to work outside of combat. Guess they decided that it was unfair for Engineers not to have 25% run speed activate all the time on their trait, since everyone else has access to this.

Yup…everybody else…

’cept for mesmers.

K U T M.4539:

Ludus Rex.1562:

Silv.9207:

I agree whit Ludus.
There’s only 2 class that can’t obtain passive speed buff: Guardian and Engi. But engi can obtain permanente swiftness.

Actually, Engineers have this now. Power Shoes got fixed to work outside of combat. Guess they decided that it was unfair for Engineers not to have 25% run speed activate all the time on their trait, since everyone else has access to this.

Yup…everybody else…

’cept for mesmers.

Oh, really? Huh, got me. Somehow I really thought they had access to this through a trait somewhere. I guess I owe Mesmers an apology.

Somebody give us and Mesmers a freakin’ mobility trait already!

Amins.3710:

More Deeps: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Rune_of_Hoelbrak

I never leave home w/o them.

Qft

Cheap and underestimated. I have both melandru and these and unless going commander these are better since they add damage as well.