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Posted by: countytime.8134

countytime.8134

A guardian can kill a warrior from full health instantly, yet my Scrapper had to ber nerfed into uselessness. Why is this ok?

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Posted by: Absurdo.8309

Absurdo.8309

A guardian can kill a warrior from full health instantly, yet my Scrapper had to ber nerfed into uselessness. Why is this ok?

Is this in pvp? Guardians are arguably in the worst state there. If you are serious, here’s some suggestions:

- Bring the trait that triggers endure pain (it’s in the meta build). And bring endure pain too. Now you won’t get bursted.
- The meta build also has shield master, which reflects projectiles while blocking.
- The meta build also has stability in enrage, so you won’t get cc’ed as often.

Good luck.

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Posted by: Redenaz.8631

Redenaz.8631

Why do you think it’s okay?

No, seriously, I’m asking you to think it out. Do you think Anet is intentionally favoring certain classes over others? Do you think it might just be a temporary ebb and flow of power from one balance patch to the next, because perfect balance is hard? Do you think it might be an issue with what’s popular right now getting the most refinement by player-strategists, or some classes having a higher skill requirement without a corresponding higher power ceiling? Could it be a matter of perspective, and that playing one of these “overpowered” classes might not be so easy as it seems?

Some or none of those might be the answer you’re looking for, but I wonder what answer you’re expecting, besides simple agreement/disagreement.

~The Storyteller – Elementalist – Jade Quarry~

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Posted by: Booms.2594

Booms.2594

A guardian can kill a warrior from full health instantly, yet my Scrapper had to ber nerfed into uselessness. Why is this ok?

Is this in pvp? Guardians are arguably in the worst state there. If you are serious, here’s some suggestions:

- Bring the trait that triggers endure pain (it’s in the meta build). And bring endure pain too. Now you won’t get bursted.
- The meta build also has shield master, which reflects projectiles while blocking.
- The meta build also has stability in enrage, so you won’t get cc’ed as often.

Good luck.

not arguably, they are

gerdian

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Posted by: Kuya.6495

Kuya.6495

This thread a joke?

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Posted by: Fashion Mage.3712

Fashion Mage.3712

Lel, “useless” scrappers.

This thread a joke?

I expected a punchline when I got in the topic. Disappointed. ;(

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Posted by: Obtena.7952

Obtena.7952

It’s as OK as people making troll threads apparently

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Posted by: JDjitsu.7895

JDjitsu.7895

It’s as OK as people making troll threads apparently

Has to be a troll thread or new to pvp…I cringe when there’s DHs on my team. Yeah, an exceptional player can do some work on it, but that’s usually not the case.

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Posted by: Delgotta.3817

Delgotta.3817

considering he also just made the same accusations in EVERY other class thread, I will say he just is a troll. I clicked on his posting history and had a good laugh.

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Posted by: Aeolus.3615

Aeolus.3615

OP is talking with irony for sure.

Thank good Anet is hiding the broken of the class design and balance by deleting stats they add to pvp XD, yet game is know to be dumbly broken, reason population has dropped.

1st April joke, when gw2 receives a “balance” update.

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Posted by: tomwcb.9713

tomwcb.9713

OP is talking with irony for sure.

OP is not I’m afraid. He has posted a longer qq on the Engineer forums.

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Posted by: Ryouzanpaku.1273

Ryouzanpaku.1273

Player plays the game. MetaKitten plays the DPS meter on the golem.

(edited by Ryouzanpaku.1273)

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Posted by: MomentofWeakness.1246

MomentofWeakness.1246

A guardian can kill a warrior from full health instantly, yet my Scrapper had to ber nerfed into uselessness. Why is this ok?

All you do is complain about every class saying they are over powered in every single different sub-forum on this website. Then you follow up by saying your engineer is unplayable, nerfed, and useless. Engineer is doing just fine right now in PvP, you have a learn to play issue.

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Posted by: Aeolus.3615

Aeolus.3615

OP is talking with irony for sure.

OP is not I’m afraid. He has posted a longer qq on the Engineer forums.

Oh my, just went to se his messages….

1st April joke, when gw2 receives a “balance” update.

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Posted by: Darlgon.9273

Darlgon.9273

ROLF… in a sad way.

Charrdian, Ashura Mesmer, Norn Ranger, Sylvari Elementalist and Human Magic Engineer

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Posted by: phalaris.5134

phalaris.5134

Any class is OP if you “loose 1vs1”, which usually applies for sPvP and WvW roaming.

Just learn your skills, be aware of cool downs and predict opponent’s moves. (watch for boons, etc).

You will get there.

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Posted by: Yannir.4132

Yannir.4132

ROLF… in a sad way.

Rolling in laugh flooring?

Yannir for males. (guard,thief,war,ele)
Sonya for females. (necro,rev,ranger,mes,engi)
All classes lvl 80.

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Posted by: XTR.9604

XTR.9604

A guardian can kill a warrior from full health instantly, yet my Scrapper had to ber nerfed into uselessness. Why is this ok?

L2P issue or build issue. Just because Scrapper can’t cheese it up as well as it did doesn’t mean it is useless now.

I’m not sure what game mode you’re playing, but Guardian is literally the weakest class for fighting right now. You’re probably playing full zerk killshot warrior and one shotting yourself because you’re getting it reflected at you and can’t seem to figure that out for yourself.

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Posted by: Excell.1042

Excell.1042

Here we go again boiis! OP sucked at dodging, Op was like “Oh kitten predictable tell on trueshot” trueshot hit op, op got hit for 2k, started panicing and running around, triggerd ToF and kept hitting it for a few times, got downed.

OP: “Anet plz nerf guardian so OP right now, plz cant handle guardian too stronk QQ”
Anet: “Okay we gib nerf lelelelelel guard too hard 2 dodge we make trueshot even more worthless”

Next patchnote:

=Guardian=
*Trueshot has had it’s damage reduced by an additional 20%
*Wings of Resolve now shows the back item you are wearing

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Posted by: King Cephalopod.7942

King Cephalopod.7942

Stop necro-ing the troll thread.

A little savagery now and then is relished by the wisest men.
Don’t cry, Signet of Mercy. Others may forget you, but I will always remember.
Our deficiencies may be overcome by practice and self-discipline.

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Posted by: Nusku.3941

Nusku.3941

Maybe you’re doing something wrong, are you going full zerker? because that’s dragon hunter food.

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Posted by: Vikkela.7261

Vikkela.7261

STOP BUMPING TROLL THREAD.

9 Guardians later…

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Posted by: DerDaddelgreis.9031

DerDaddelgreis.9031

Anet testing not any, thats the Problem. The Guardian Dmg is so F** High thats a Joke.
Balance not exist in the Game.

(edited by DerDaddelgreis.9031)

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Posted by: Krysard.1364

Krysard.1364

Dont mind me, just feedding the troll

M I L K B O I S

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Posted by: Aeolus.3615

Aeolus.3615

Anet testing not any, thats the Problem. The Guardian Dmg is so F** High thats a Joke.
Balance not exist in the Game.

If your being killed by traps that easilly, u deserve to be a bag… :]

Play less squishy specs and u can even type /dance on guardian traps if u now how they work…

guardian to make damage and win they need 2+ vs 1 situations, besides that they die fast, even i kill them with a mace shield build…. that is how bad DH trap pooper is…

1st April joke, when gw2 receives a “balance” update.

(edited by Aeolus.3615)

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Posted by: MaximillianVonSchatten.6278

MaximillianVonSchatten.6278

Does Anet have a timeframe for making guardian viable for small scale battles again? I can’t even beat thieves any more.

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Posted by: countytime.8134

countytime.8134

It’s ridiculous that a class can instantly kill a player from full health with one build, and be completely invulnerable with another.

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Posted by: Euthymias.7984

Euthymias.7984

Guardians are already considered as the weakest profession at high level play. Maybe you shouldn’t walk into their traps unprepared?

Bunker Guardian isn’t all that great either, especially if you’ve got unblockables to pressure with. The only “completely Invulnerable” state that comes to mind is their meditation elite, and its not only brief, but it gives up the capture point

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Posted by: Infernaeus.8473

Infernaeus.8473

Nope. No. Just no.

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Posted by: Talyn Sneider.1825

Talyn Sneider.1825

Well mate…I take it you are somewhat inexperienced in pvp.

I´ll send you a wiki link to a boon that can prevent those sudden deaths:

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Protection

Now an active action you might take to prevent some more of those deaths:

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Reflect

If you have access to protection/reflects save your cooldowns and use them when needed.
If you don´t have access to protection hug a team member that has ( tempest eles are your friends )
If you don´t have access to reflects hug a team member that has ( tempest eles and scrappers are your friends )

Hope this helps

Casual pvp’er – Can only play 2-3 hours a day

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Posted by: Agemnon.4608

Agemnon.4608

Only trapper runes need to be removed since guardians weren’t balanced around having stealth while traps should still have some subtle tell of being there but buff core guardian damage and range to compensate for it.

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Posted by: Ohoni.6057

Ohoni.6057

So long as they can’t do both at once I’m not seeing the problem.

“If you spent as much time working on [some task] as
you spend complaining about it on the forums, you’d be
done by now.”

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Posted by: JimmydT.7281

JimmydT.7281

If you are a troll, you really try hard and with passion. I appreciate that. ;-)

If you are serious, … what the f***?

Please take a look at this guys post history before replying. Really funny!

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Posted by: brannigan.9831

brannigan.9831

I thought it was elementalists that were unkillable? Now its guardians too?

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Posted by: Astralporing.1957

Astralporing.1957

I thought it was elementalists that were unkillable? Now its guardians too?

Didn’t you know? Every single class in this game is OP and can kill every other classes easily.

Actions, not words.
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Posted by: Wolfric.9380

Wolfric.9380

Right .. clerics ele can whip guardians to death within hmmmm… seconds.

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Posted by: Agemnon.4608

Agemnon.4608

I thought it was elementalists that were unkillable? Now its guardians too?

Only on thief guardians seem unkillable. I’ve beaten guardians on warrior, druid, ele, and revenant before.

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Posted by: RoseofGilead.8907

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Posted by: Mr Godlike.6098

Mr Godlike.6098

Troll post – just ignore it guys

Was depressed ele…now depressed druid
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Posted by: Zintrothen.1056

Zintrothen.1056

How are you not banned yet?

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Posted by: Ragnarox.9601

Ragnarox.9601

Guardians will be nerfed when all other classes come to our "good spot " 2 tiers below.

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Posted by: Emmrahil.1934

Emmrahil.1934

DH needs boost not nerf atm….in spvp is one of weakest classes (and i main a DH)

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Posted by: phokus.8934

phokus.8934

I just reported this thread as the OP is on a witch hunt in other threads and he already posted this same topic on this forum not too long ago.

Nothing but a troll poster.

I post from a phone so please excuse any references to ducks or any other auto corrections.

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