[WvW] Support build advice

[WvW] Support build advice

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Posted by: SpellOfIniquity.1780

SpellOfIniquity.1780

I’ve already checked Metabattle and have tinkered with some builds on the editing site but I’m not sure what would be most effective for a tank/support build.

I’m interested in doing something that’s focused on personal sustain and group support. I don’t mind if damage is sacrificed. I also understand that Guardian mostly provides boons but is not the best for overall support.

Still, I’m interested in doing something very bunker. The meta traits (Valor/Honor/Virtues) works pretty nicely although I’d prefer to take Dragonhunter as well. I tried out some different gear combinations on the editing website such as Minstrel/Wanderer, Wanderer/Crusader/Cleric etc. but I’m truly not sure what would be “best” in regards to my intent. I have played very, very little Guardian so I’m really not sure what to do at the moment.

Any tips or builds would be appreciated!

Necromancer, Ranger, Warrior, Engineer
Champion: Phantom, Hunter, Legionnaire, Genius
WvW rank: Diamond Colonel | Maguuma

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Posted by: Aeolus.3615

Aeolus.3615

Alot of damage sacrifice is mandatory for decent support

Still that" tanky" is inexistent in guardian class, warrior is the true tank of the game while still has alot of damage at same time since they dont need to invest in vitality that much.

something arround this, use whatever u want on 3rd utility, still there are far better classes for support…

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vVAQJApOlsAhWhYpQgfIWWIqrA4BGA5ov5nesEoCOBA-TVRWwAA2f4o6PTUCWQ53M9AAA-w

Or change DH trailine for a virtues based build with consectations.

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(edited by Aeolus.3615)

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Posted by: ArchonWing.9480

ArchonWing.9480

Are you talking about zergs or small groups? Base Guardian tends to be dominant in zergs because of the amount of sustain they have. DH misses out on valor, honor, or virtues— all 3 are a big deal in big fights. There’s really little variety in that, though people have been trying out mace/shield resbots.

But DH is great when it comes to smaller groups if you want to be a bunker to annoy enemies. Here’s a sample build; I just made up the stats so don’t copy and paste.
http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?vVAQJAWRn8ABtDhFdCmCB8DhlKiSe2z9fPL8Ov0DbACgIA-TliFQB2S9HAcIA0kyAkokTd7PYJdBp7BAYFlgJ4KAgQlCkCwvlRA-w

This build is simply to troll for smaller groups. You have blocks up the wazoo and thanks to hunter’s determination you can remove condis per block. Every aegis heals as well if removed. Enemy stuns you? Well, you automatically put out a trap that gives out even more blocks. You can teleport to allies to quickly get to them/heal. GS is taken mostly for mobility either to or from battle (combine with wings of resolve)

You can ditch either set for mace/shield as well. Naturally bigger groups need “stand your ground” somewhere…. (probably ditch retreat). Retreat gives me on demand aegis and swiftness, which are nice because guardians are SLOW. But in bigger groups this is not a problem.

Also, you can take retaliatory subconscious instead of unscathed contender. It probably doesn’t matter too much. You can also try bulwark if you’re confident enough in your ability to stay with your group.

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(edited by ArchonWing.9480)

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Posted by: Ghotistyx.6942

Ghotistyx.6942

So this is something similar to a Guardian I run for fun in zergs. Aegis is pretty fun to build around, and this build features a lot of it. Damage mitigation plus lots of healing for your allies.

If you want to go tankier then Nomad armor and probably Monk runes would be good for even more support. If you ever don’t want to worry about support but still love the aegis spam, then swap Honor for Zeal, take Shattered Aegis, and swap your clerics/hpow for Soldiers and more power. They’re both really fun to play while bringing some of the zerg essentials.

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Posted by: SpellOfIniquity.1780

SpellOfIniquity.1780

Are you talking about zergs or small groups? Base Guardian tends to be dominant in zergs because of the amount of sustain they have. DH misses out on valor, honor, or virtues— all 3 are a big deal in big fights. There’s really little variety in that, though people have been trying out mace/shield resbots.

But DH is great when it comes to smaller groups if you want to be a bunker to annoy enemies. Here’s a sample build; I just made up the stats so don’t copy and paste.
http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?vVAQJAWRn8ABtDhFdCmCB8DhlKiSe2z9fPL8Ov0DbACgIA-TliFQB2S9HAcIA0kyAkokTd7PYJdBp7BAYFlgJ4KAgQlCkCwvlRA-w

This build is simply to troll for smaller groups. You have blocks up the wazoo and thanks to hunter’s determination you can remove condis per block. Every aegis heals as well if removed. Enemy stuns you? Well, you automatically put out a trap that gives out even more blocks. You can teleport to allies to quickly get to them/heal. GS is taken mostly for mobility either to or from battle (combine with wings of resolve)

You can ditch either set for mace/shield as well. Naturally bigger groups need “stand your ground” somewhere…. (probably ditch retreat). Retreat gives me on demand aegis and swiftness, which are nice because guardians are SLOW. But in bigger groups this is not a problem.

Also, you can take retaliatory subconscious instead of unscathed contender. It probably doesn’t matter too much. You can also try bulwark if you’re confident enough in your ability to stay with your group.

I was talking about zerging but trolling isn’t out of the question, lol. I’ve played some full bunk builds in the past and it’s always kind of fun to do a bit of roaming so you can chuckle while gankers fail to bring you down. It was most fun the time I decided to run a Shouts bunker Nike Warrior and had mini zergs chasing me around.

I’ll check out this build and the others here as well. As I’d said, I know very little about Guard so it couldn’t hurt to experiment. I’ve just played so much Necromancer and Ranger, I thought it might be a good idea to make something people actually want in their groups for a change. Not only that, I’m starting to actively work towards Ultimate Dominator now. By the rank I’m currently at… I probably should have had it by now but I never play “ideal” zerging builds. But that shall all change soon!

Necromancer, Ranger, Warrior, Engineer
Champion: Phantom, Hunter, Legionnaire, Genius
WvW rank: Diamond Colonel | Maguuma

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Posted by: x indigo x.6981

x indigo x.6981

I believe what you seek is the Guardian Angel build explained here

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/IndigoMania-Guardian-Angel-Build

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Posted by: Chorazin.4107

Chorazin.4107

Focus on boon duration and condi clear for your group, as providing boons and keeping your group free of condis will be your main role.

Secondary role will be some backup healing to the primary healer(ele/druid) and downed players, so stomping enemies and getting allies up.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vVAQNApeWl8AhWhYpQwbIwPELWEFWAcAPgctn79eW4VenHA-TVSDQBS4RAkFlYSU5RIVCCgjAAT2fQe6D0n6PL8EAQKAvGZB-w

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