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Posted by: Stahngun.4123

Stahngun.4123

Hello there peeps, I recently returned from my long, long break from GW2, I took the decision to finally level a character all the way to 80 and the primary choice was my Mesmer, now that I have reached level 70 I feel rather uncomfortable with my current build.

I have roamed the forums for the past two or three days now searching for a viable Greatsword build, but most of them consist of using Mantras which I personally do not really enjoy using, so it would be great if anybody could find/create a build which is viable in both PvE and PvP, with decent damage and survivability.

Any help, tips and the like would be greatly appreciated for a “new” Mesmer, so to speak, thanks!

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Posted by: TooBz.3065

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Anything I post is just the opinion of a very vocal minority of 1.

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Posted by: Stahngun.4123

Stahngun.4123

Thanks for the helpful links, but I’m personally looking for a Phantasm build, there’s much less button bashing involved and it feels more relaxed overall.

EDIT: I’m also wondering why nobody seems to get Greatsword Training when playing with a Greatsword, it simply doesn’t make sense to me, could somebody explain?

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Posted by: TooBz.3065

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Anything I post is just the opinion of a very vocal minority of 1.

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Posted by: Stahngun.4123

Stahngun.4123

That looks great, thanks alot, I’ll be giving that be giving that build a shot right away!

If anybody still has some suggestions though, feel free to let me know. Any help is greatly appreciated.

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Posted by: Helios.3598

Helios.3598

25 points in Illusions just to get IC is expensive. If you wanted to retain damage and put those points to more effective use then dump them into Dueling. Perhaps take Phantasmal Fury and Blade Training.

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Posted by: keenlam.4753

keenlam.4753

I think a standard phantasm build look like this:
20/20/0/30/0
Traits: Domination III X, Dueling II X, Inspiration II IV VIII

Link to build: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgEQNAR8alwzKqHVzhGb9IypHMH0tckUoapWJF42FC-j0xAYLBZCCMZJQJvioxWzKiGruGT5SEVDA-w

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Posted by: TooBz.3065

TooBz.3065

25 points in Illusions just to get IC is expensive. If you wanted to retain damage and put those points to more effective use then dump them into Dueling. Perhaps take Phantasmal Fury and Blade Training.

I’m not saying this is the best build, I’m a shatter mesmer, so I may be too focused on Illusions but it’s not “just to get IC”.

Compounding Power gives 3% more damage / illusion, Phantasm builds tend to not shatter so that’s going to be an additional 9% more often than not.

And Phantasmal haste which makes phantasm attack more frequently.

Admittedly, the minor traits in Illusions are not helpful. And the condition / shatter recharge isn’t great either. But it’s not as bad as you make it sound.

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Posted by: Stahngun.4123

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Thanks alot again guys, apologies for the late reply though.

I have been trying these builds for the past day and I can safely say that I’m alot more comfortable with playing my Mesmer again, thanks!

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Posted by: Zumi.6384

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I haven’t been on in a few weeks due to some RL stuff, but as of 3 weeks ago the build in my signature was a lot of fun as a Greatsword build.

The main description in the post talks about it as a hybrid phantasm/support build, but there’s a part at the bottom that talks about solo play with it.

Take a look and give it a shot if it looks like something you’d like.

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Posted by: LordByron.8369

LordByron.8369

fpr pve phantasms best build are:

0/20/0/25/25 (my choice)
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-N;4VPV11S73VV71;9;5J-OO;113;217-29-OJFA;2k06Rk06RNBGvcF35;2V1-60B1G2LZR_6308-2iV8-N1;3c;09;9;9;9;9;9;06o

or
10/10/0/25/25

IC and those last 25 points are a MUST for pve and the damage loss is not as bad you also get faster phantasm attack rate (les sthan stated by tooltip btw).

You also get bleeding on crit……to makes up for the loss of dps in the end the only nerf that hurts is BF 10 sec instead of 8 <.<

GW2 balance:
A PvE player is supposed to avoid a 1-2 second 1 shotting aoe.
A WWW player is considered uncapable of avoiding a 5,75 second aoe for half his health.

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Posted by: Helios.3598

Helios.3598

ANet also made the Chaos tree more powerful with Bountiful Interruption. With 30 in Chaos, Signet of Midnight, and some buff duration food you convert that 5stack, 5sec might per interrupt roughly 8sec duration might. With Counter Blade and traited sword alone you can almost keep up might fairly continuously. You can prep to burst by hitting multiple targets or by rolling your other interrupts to quickly get 25 stacks. 25 stacks translates to a 40 to 50% buff to your Power and Condition Damage which transfers to your illusions. The Chaos tree also has Debilitating Dissipation which I find is very powerful to further tip the scales and maintain pressure. DD also works nicely for Phantasm-oriented builds imo.

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Posted by: Stahngun.4123

Stahngun.4123

I haven’t been on in a few weeks due to some RL stuff, but as of 3 weeks ago the build in my signature was a lot of fun as a Greatsword build.

The main description in the post talks about it as a hybrid phantasm/support build, but there’s a part at the bottom that talks about solo play with it.

Take a look and give it a shot if it looks like something you’d like.

Cheers mate, I finally found a great build with my two favorite weapon styles, it feels extremely smooth and I feel like I am contributing something to other people, which is great. Thanks again.

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

Ayrilana.1396

IC and those last 25 points are a MUST for pve and the damage loss is not as bad you also get faster phantasm attack rate (les sthan stated by tooltip btw).

You also get bleeding on crit……to makes up for the loss of dps in the end the only nerf that hurts is BF 10 sec instead of 8 <.<

Can you elaborate how IC is necessary? My phantasms rarely go down before the cool down on their skill is up. I have not noticed much of a difference in DPS since the update months ago. I did trait to get IC after the update but went back as I didn’t feel it was worth it.

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Posted by: Valarauka.2719

Valarauka.2719

IC is absolutely not necessary, 20/20/0/30/0 or 10/30/0/30/0 are perfectly viable PvE phantasm builds. You can get cooldown reductions where needed and keep your traits in damage lines instead of wasting them in Illusions.

I haven’t found Phantasmal Haste (which is far less of a benefit than stated) or Compounding Power (which only boosts personal damage, which is sucky anyway) to be anywhere near worth the damage loss.

If you wanted to really optimize you could even steal the last five points from Inspiration to put into one of the first two lines (15/30/0/25/0 probably best), but I find there are so many useful majors that it’s not worth it.

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