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Posted by: Dondagora.9645

Dondagora.9645

A first attempt at a build, but here it is:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQRAsf7dl0zCrHTTrGZNJipCB3JFMn0RSRphalUYbXIA-TwAg2CuIcSJjTGjTyksJNSYFwegpAA

A PvP Build, this mesmer is meant to first pick at a lone enemy and drag him around, using stealth and teleporting and swiftness to stay away from them and to keep stringing them along. First, the mesmer will create a portal before moving in. After this, the mesmer will attack with the scepter and continuously create clones and cripple with the focus as they move, then switch to sword/torch in the case that you are immobilized or slowed into the enemy’s range. The mesmer would then stall with the sword and stealth/burn with the torch before continuing.
If you begin to win, the number of mobility and stealth skills will make it easy to corner and hit the opponent if they try to run away. If you begin to lose, create a portal before you are downed and port yourself all the way back to the beginning of the chase, avoiding giving the other team points and dying.
Condition, mobility, and crippling traits are used to increase the effectiveness and the ability to kill and run from the opponent. Sigils used are mainly to increase condition duration to help damage and the runes used are for survival, mobility, and more damage duration.

This is an untested build.

Feedback?
Advice for Builds construction(again, first time, so this is appreciated)?

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Posted by: blutstein.2468

blutstein.2468

so then, my point of view:

1. Don’t try to make a jack of all trades build. Think about what skills you prefer and then try if you could build around them. In your case it seems you prefer glamour skills.

2. Healing power is a wasted stat imho at least for mesmers. Go for survivability with toughness (rabid stats), vitality (carrion stats) or vit/toughness/cond (dire stats). I would mix between these.
Torch without supporting traits (Dom IX, PU) is not worth it imho.

3. Your sigils are bad. Vulnerability does nothing to your build (assuming condition) because it doesn’t affect conditions. Bleeding sigil is bad too with your gearchoice, with 14% crit you will never get bleed stacks ticking.
If you want to push your condition duration, go with sigil of malice and food.

3. Your runechoices are bad. Do you really think 2 vampirisms help with your survivabilty? they don’t.
Look at your stats, your weakness, then choose your runeset accordingly.

4. Your Utilities are bad. Not the skills themself, veil and portal are great. But they are situational. Veils cd is simply far to long even traited, and the stealth isn’t worth it without PU.

thats my 2c after a quick look at your build. I have adjusted it quickly , how i would build assuming my thoughts about your plan are right.
Inspirationtraits can be swapped to focus, scepter or glamour enhancement.

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Posted by: Chaos Archangel.5071

Chaos Archangel.5071

In an even team fight, engaging someone in 1v1 combat is already accomplishing what this build is attempting to do: tie up an opponent.

While its always good to be creative, don’t ever make a build with no greater ambition than to harass/annoy the enemy.. for that you may as well spec to kill them as quickly as possible. Figure out a more specific -and meaningful- role you want to play in sPvP. Then we can help you tailor it.

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Posted by: Ethics.4519

Ethics.4519

The build seems decent for what it’s designed to do, but what it’s designed to do doesn’t really make sense. If you’re trying to annoy somebody, you would be better off going bunker and fighting on point.

Yes, you might tie somebody up, but you’re also tying yourself up. So you seem to be looking at it as “Yeah, I’m bringing one of their players out of the fight and off point”…. but so are you.

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Posted by: Pyroatheist.9031

Pyroatheist.9031

Yeah, going to have to agree with the general sentiment. This build looks like it would be able to annoy me. It wouldn’t kill me. It wouldn’t hold a point. It wouldn’t take a point. If it attempted to actually engage in direct combat, I would crush it.

Honestly, it’s a build designed to do nothing but be annoying, and that’s pretty much nothing.

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Posted by: Lahel.6381

Lahel.6381

Yeah, going to have to agree with the general sentiment. This build looks like it would be able to annoy me. It wouldn’t kill me. It wouldn’t hold a point. It wouldn’t take a point. If it attempted to actually engage in direct combat, I would crush it.

Honestly, it’s a build designed to do nothing but be annoying, and that’s pretty much nothing.

Hmm I sense great Stonemist troll material here then :O

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Posted by: themenaceofseventhdimension.2075

themenaceofseventhdimension.2075

Hey Lahel! As much as I respect you and your build making skills, too, you have no right to call someone a troll unless they directly engaged you and annoyed the kitten out of you. This person here told you that this was his first attempt at a build. So what if it looks funky right now. The weapons sets are solid. All he gotta do is change some armor stats and 1 or 2 utility skills and he is good to go. Again, like I said, I respect you too, but you shouldn’t try to down a player when it’s his first time posting a build he made up. It ridiculously discourages them.

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Posted by: Joonks.7501

Joonks.7501

Hey Lahel! As much as I respect you and your build making skills, too, you have no right to call someone a troll unless they directly engaged you and annoyed the kitten out of you. This person here told you that this was his first attempt at a build. So what if it looks funky right now. The weapons sets are solid. All he gotta do is change some armor stats and 1 or 2 utility skills and he is good to go. Again, like I said, I respect you too, but you shouldn’t try to down a player when it’s his first time posting a build he made up. It ridiculously discourages them.

I think you misinterpreted his post. He was saying this build could be suited for trolling around Stonemist Castle in EBG.

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Posted by: Hexxen.7216

Hexxen.7216

He needs to change more than a few utility skills.

He has 700ish condition build. You confusion is going to hit like hmm………………… a fly that is coming at you at full speed but then gets scared and swerves so that they don’t hit you? Confusion is a pretty gimpy condition in PvP with its reduced potency. Still adds pressure but I really think that you domination trait would better serve you by using the torch skill to get reduced CD and condition removal.

The runes of the pack are kind of a waste as well with your only form of swiftness being focus for which you do not have the CD trait for.

I personally don’t feel healing power is overrated as it is a key player in my main build I run in WvW but in PvP not sure you can stack it as high as I can in WvW plus you don’t take PU or have massive regen uptime so in your current build it really isn’t needed.

As said above this build would be murdered as it currently is by pretty much anything played by even the most average of players.

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Posted by: Pyroatheist.9031

Pyroatheist.9031

Hey Lahel! As much as I respect you and your build making skills, too, you have no right to call someone a troll unless they directly engaged you and annoyed the kitten out of you. This person here told you that this was his first attempt at a build. So what if it looks funky right now. The weapons sets are solid. All he gotta do is change some armor stats and 1 or 2 utility skills and he is good to go. Again, like I said, I respect you too, but you shouldn’t try to down a player when it’s his first time posting a build he made up. It ridiculously discourages them.

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Posted by: themenaceofseventhdimension.2075

themenaceofseventhdimension.2075

Sorry if I got so angry all of a sudden. Was trying to defend Dondagora when he should have told his PoV. Sorry if you guys also misread my post. I personally thought that Lahel calling his build troll worthy was sort of calling Donda a troll, since I get the feeling that’s not at all the reason he posted this build. Anyways, good luck to Donda. If this is for PvP, I suggest going with berserker. Your weapons are geared towards condi, and if you have massive Power DPS, the condi will just follow along pretty well. Just because of the sheer fact that all your weapons are condi based in some way.

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Posted by: Dondagora.9645

Dondagora.9645

Hn, thanks for the feedback, guys. It seems I [generally, in a very loose way] made what I was going for, with kinks and flaws which comes with any draft, but what I was going for was weaker in play than I imagined. I also need to learn more on runes/sigils to more aptly apply them to builds, perhaps studying on the effectiveness of conditions more than the implied effects as well. I’ll take these things into account in future attempts.

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Posted by: Hexxen.7216

Hexxen.7216

The type of play style you are trying to go is really fun (I know I have an annoying build I run for the hell of it once ina while) but it really depends on if you get a silly person to actually fall for it which is rare.

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Posted by: Durzlla.6295

Durzlla.6295

drop the shamans amulet and pick up a carrion amulet and the build could actually have some teeth while still keeping its trollsy nature… I’d totally change up your runes though, i don’t like those at all, try Nightmare runes or even just a bunch of flat condi duration ones to make the confusion and torment meaner…

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As their mother, I have to grant them their wish. – Forever Fyonna

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Posted by: Lahel.6381

Lahel.6381

Hey Lahel! As much as I respect you and your build making skills, too, you have no right to call someone a troll unless they directly engaged you and annoyed the kitten out of you. This person here told you that this was his first attempt at a build. So what if it looks funky right now. The weapons sets are solid. All he gotta do is change some armor stats and 1 or 2 utility skills and he is good to go. Again, like I said, I respect you too, but you shouldn’t try to down a player when it’s his first time posting a build he made up. It ridiculously discourages them.

I think you misinterpreted his post. He was saying this build could be suited for trolling around Stonemist Castle in EBG.

Exactly what I meant, never called OP a troll or anything of the sort. I simply implied this build had a troll-ish nature to it, that could be fun for trolling/annoying people in stonemist castle.

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Posted by: themenaceofseventhdimension.2075

themenaceofseventhdimension.2075

Sorry Lahel, like I said, even if you weren’t saying what I thought you were saying, you shouldn’t call a build trollish unless the OP said it was for trolling reasons. It just discourages them a bit. If it is trollish in your opinion, give further reasons to why you think that and how to imrove it.

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Posted by: selan.8354

selan.8354

Sorry Lahel, like I said, even if you weren’t saying what I thought you were saying, you shouldn’t call a build trollish unless the OP said it was for trolling reasons. It just discourages them a bit. If it is trollish in your opinion, give further reasons to why you think that and how to imrove it.

yeah calling something a troll build doesnt mean to insult the build, it means that the enemy facing it will be trolled. permastealth thief is a troll build.

now back to the build. well your build lacks dmg for sure. u have little to no condition dmg and your dps is almost as low as a glambuilds dps, which means your auto attack hits like a wet noodle.
sure u will be able to fool the enmy, but u cant kill anything. a warriors regen is higher than the damage u deal.

your sigils are for conditions, which u clearly dont have. then u add burning duration which again is for conditions which u dont have in your build. you use trinkets and runes for condition and still u have no condition dmg. so u gotta decide what u want this build to do.

do u wanna deal dmg with conditions, u gotta us specific trinkets and runes

do u want dps? then spec for that.

right now u are dealing little to no dmg at all

so look at for example the glam build http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fgEQNAW7dlw1qqHVzpGg9IxJFMv5oecdrXdSKKNqB-jEDBINCy0CCy5QFRjtaqIasaZAaIY6YLq2kD1KOQWywGzIeEYCBsYNA-w

u notice the dps is pretty low; like yours, but the condition dmg is very high. and your traits dont make sense. u got 1 glamfield in your bar so why using a trait that grants confusion on glamfield? also again with 800 condition dmg?

pretty much all your traits say condition dmg, but your condition dmg itself is wayyyyyy to low for all those traits. go back again and figure out what u want this build to do and then start playing with the traits

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