Guild Wars 2

First lets compare the descriptions between Chaos Armour & Chaos Storm:

Chaos Armour:
Give yourself random boons and your foe random conditions whenever you are struck.
Chaos Storm:
…that applies random conditions to foes and boons to allies.

So firstly the term random doesn’t apply to boons for allies using Chaos Storm, yet it does give random boons.

Secondly,
Each boon just refreshes back to 3.5secs if you get 2 of the same one. It’s possible to get 3 boons of the same kind so you lose out. i.e if you get 3 swiftness you in fact gain maybe 4 seconds of total swiftness and miss out on 2 other 3.5 secs of other boons you could have had.

The other issue is purely situational:
Lets say you want swiftness to proc: if it doesnt come up straight away you have to stand and wait until it does to gain 3.5secs. That isnt worth it as you have to stand still when you could have been further if you just kept running.

So the way Chaos Storm works is just broken.

Chaos Storm should, like its description, give 1 of each of the 3 boons(Swiftness,Aegis, Retalition) in that order with swiftness always being the 1st. It should not give any more boons after that (even thought atm its possible to get 4 random boons but still useless)

Please fix this.

“Chaos Storm is useless”

… I think thats the first time I’ve ever heard that.

Plz fix Scepter / Torch first.

I remember back in the day on other forums where we could freely flame posters and point out their logical/analytical errors while entertaining ourselves with indirect insults about the person’s mental capacity, getting a good all-around chuckle and making it blatantly clear to the laymen that the poster was out of their mind.

But now we’re limited to highlighting boring and tedious things like:

Each boon just refreshes back to 3.5secs

this being incorrect, since the boons stack in duration.

It’s not broken. It’s random. Working as intended. And still very powerful by the way.

Now, if you REALLY want to get nit-picky on descriptions, you could say that daze is not a condition (which it isn’t) and should not be applied given the ability’s description. So yea, maybe it is broken, in the mesmer’s FAVOR.

EasymodeX.4062:

this being incorrect, since the boons stack in duration.

I havent had a chance to test this yet, just out of curiosity have you tested it ? Boons are meant to stack in duration but the focus swiftness doesnt stack if you already have swiftness applied, same with the guardian staff swiftness, perhaps it is the same here.

I know the reason behind the focus and guardian staff swiftness not stacking but I guess it could kind of apply here too even though the chance to get swiftness and the short duration kind of remove the need to it.

@EasymodeX: I presume you are referring to my long, exacting; and quite honestly gorgeous post highlighting the multiple deficiencies of the op, that was removed presumably because of the tiny line of snark at the end that I have now removed in hopes it wil get past the microscopic meter that our esteemed forum gods feel the need to measure every post by…

Wow ok. Lets start from the top.
The basis of your argument is some sort of syntactical BS that is completely incorrect. You claim that the wording means that it doesn’t apply random boons to allies, but you’re completely wrong. In the English language, an adjective is allowed to describe 2 different things. The way they did it in the description is a bit clunky, but it is still perfectly clear, you are just choosing to ignore it.

With that said, the rest of your points are blatantly false as well. If you get 3 swiftness procs in a row, their time is added, not just refreshed like you claim.

Every single point you make in your post is complete bogus. Every single claim you make is flat out wrong. Chaos storm and armor are not broken, not even a little bit.

Wow. The last time I heard anyone crying about staff’s random properties was back in beta before anyone had a chance to see it in action. Staff is borderline OP, esp phase and CA, and CS isn’t far behind at all. It’s so good even power users love it. It’s a chaos weapon. It’s effects are meant to be random (they do stack btw), and it’s darn good at it. Any change you suggest would make it OP and soon to be nerfed. No thank you.

Also, I like snarks.

He also said the OP should feel bad for such a lousy misinformative thread.. Which is too true, it could mislead less-informed players. -=waits patiently for the infraction-bolt from the heavens=-

As others have stated, chaos storm is an excellent skill. Any skill which simultaneously damages enemies in it, applies chilled, poison, and weakness to enemies, and applies aegis, retalitation, and swiftness to allies is amazing. With proper usage, it can be extremely powerful. Just the other night, I threw it down on an ally in Arah to help them block an otherwise fatal attack. I also use it to keep my clones/phantasms alive longer. Also, if a foe is attacking me in melee range I get boons while he or she gets conditions. Oh, and did I mention that it’s an ethereal combo field? With staff you already have one built-in leap finisher and every other weapon (except scepter) has at least one combo finisher for either chaos armor or confusion. Finally, keep in mind that random chance is a big part of the mesmer class. You could even say it’s chaotic.

samski.5194:

I havent had a chance to test this yet, just out of curiosity have you tested it ? Boons are meant to stack in duration but the focus swiftness doesnt stack if you already have swiftness applied, same with the guardian staff swiftness, perhaps it is the same here.

No need to test it. All boons that are supposed to stack in duration actually do stack in duration unless it’s Focus4 or the Guardian symbol. This is because ANet doesn’t want a player to run through those swiftness fields rapidly to stack 5 minutes of swiftness in 3 seconds. But, those are exceptions.

Incidentally I do clearly recall getting more than 1 application of swiftness from Chaos Storm and the durations stacking appropriately. I’ve also used CS to apply the swiftness after I had swiftness from Curtain.

Note: if you time / place it well, you can get 2 ticks of Chaos Storm on you while moving in a straight line (forward). Spent a lot of time doing that wayyyyy back when I used Staff in WvW.

Pyroatheist.9031:

@EasymodeX: I presume you are referring to my [] quite honestly gorgeous post

Heh, I was speaking in general but was inspired by your post. Ironically, I posted mine before yours was removed; I gave it an 80% chance of getting modded.

ANet’s pretty tryhard.