Chronomancer Buffs Across Board?
I’m pretty sure that the only person who doesn’t play this game is you, hence why the only argument you ever have for anything is ‘bu…but PRO LEAGUE SAIDIT’.
Classic losing an argument reply here.
Its ok to admit you are wrong.
No, for you see the Pro League said I am right. Why are you calling the Pro League liars?
Its over bow out gracefully.
The topic of the thread has been confirmed and proven many times over. I thank everyone for their contributions
You’re right, it has been confirmed and proven many times over. What was confirmed and proven was that Chronomancer and base mesmer are woefully underpowered right now, in both PvE and PvP (though especially PvE) and need damage buffs.
I’m thinking there’s a user error issue on your end mate.
Either way I hope you practice hard! It’ll pay off big time when you start smashing foolz
I’m pretty sure that the only person who doesn’t play this game is you, hence why the only argument you ever have for anything is ‘bu…but PRO LEAGUE SAIDIT’.
Classic losing an argument reply here.
Its ok to admit you are wrong.
No, for you see the Pro League said I am right. Why are you calling the Pro League liars?
Its over bow out gracefully.
The topic of the thread has been confirmed and proven many times over. I thank everyone for their contributions
I just said that the pro league agrees with me why are you denying the pro league agrees with me when the pro league does infact agree with me.
Yeah trying a wee bit too hard mate. Just relax and enjoy everything our class gives us.
I’m pretty sure that the only person who doesn’t play this game is you, hence why the only argument you ever have for anything is ‘bu…but PRO LEAGUE SAIDIT’.
Classic losing an argument reply here.
Its ok to admit you are wrong.
No, for you see the Pro League said I am right. Why are you calling the Pro League liars?
Its over bow out gracefully.
The topic of the thread has been confirmed and proven many times over. I thank everyone for their contributions
I just said that the pro league agrees with me why are you denying the pro league agrees with me when the pro league does infact agree with me.
Yeah trying a wee bit too hard mate. Just relax and enjoy everything our class gives us.
The Pro League actually says I am not.
I’m pretty sure that the only person who doesn’t play this game is you, hence why the only argument you ever have for anything is ‘bu…but PRO LEAGUE SAIDIT’.
Classic losing an argument reply here.
Its ok to admit you are wrong.
No, for you see the Pro League said I am right. Why are you calling the Pro League liars?
Its over bow out gracefully.
The topic of the thread has been confirmed and proven many times over. I thank everyone for their contributions
I just said that the pro league agrees with me why are you denying the pro league agrees with me when the pro league does infact agree with me.
Yeah trying a wee bit too hard mate. Just relax and enjoy everything our class gives us.
The Pro League actually says I am not.
Frostball already shut you down in another thread friend.
Now are you trying to argue that mesmers didn’t receive buffs,across the board or something else pertaining to the OP?
I’m pretty sure that the only person who doesn’t play this game is you, hence why the only argument you ever have for anything is ‘bu…but PRO LEAGUE SAIDIT’.
Classic losing an argument reply here.
Its ok to admit you are wrong.
No, for you see the Pro League said I am right. Why are you calling the Pro League liars?
Its over bow out gracefully.
The topic of the thread has been confirmed and proven many times over. I thank everyone for their contributions
I just said that the pro league agrees with me why are you denying the pro league agrees with me when the pro league does infact agree with me.
Yeah trying a wee bit too hard mate. Just relax and enjoy everything our class gives us.
The Pro League actually says I am not.
Frostball already shut you down in another thread friend.
Now are you trying to argue that mesmers didn’t receive buffs,across the board or something else pertaining to the OP?
I’m arguing that the Pro League agrees with me because they do. They also told me that frostball hasn’t replied to me in any thread so if you are going to call the pro league a liar and say he has can you please show the pro league where he did?
I’m pretty sure that the only person who doesn’t play this game is you, hence why the only argument you ever have for anything is ‘bu…but PRO LEAGUE SAIDIT’.
Classic losing an argument reply here.
Its ok to admit you are wrong.
No, for you see the Pro League said I am right. Why are you calling the Pro League liars?
Its over bow out gracefully.
The topic of the thread has been confirmed and proven many times over. I thank everyone for their contributions
I just said that the pro league agrees with me why are you denying the pro league agrees with me when the pro league does infact agree with me.
Yeah trying a wee bit too hard mate. Just relax and enjoy everything our class gives us.
The Pro League actually says I am not.
Frostball already shut you down in another thread friend.
Now are you trying to argue that mesmers didn’t receive buffs,across the board or something else pertaining to the OP?
I’m arguing that the Pro League agrees with me because they do. They also told me that frostball hasn’t replied to me in any thread so if you are going to call the pro league a liar and say he has can you please show the pro league where he did?
He debunked the tier list you’re clinging too.
I’m pretty sure that the only person who doesn’t play this game is you, hence why the only argument you ever have for anything is ‘bu…but PRO LEAGUE SAIDIT’.
Classic losing an argument reply here.
Its ok to admit you are wrong.
No, for you see the Pro League said I am right. Why are you calling the Pro League liars?
Its over bow out gracefully.
The topic of the thread has been confirmed and proven many times over. I thank everyone for their contributions
I just said that the pro league agrees with me why are you denying the pro league agrees with me when the pro league does infact agree with me.
Yeah trying a wee bit too hard mate. Just relax and enjoy everything our class gives us.
The Pro League actually says I am not.
Frostball already shut you down in another thread friend.
Now are you trying to argue that mesmers didn’t receive buffs,across the board or something else pertaining to the OP?
I’m arguing that the Pro League agrees with me because they do. They also told me that frostball hasn’t replied to me in any thread so if you are going to call the pro league a liar and say he has can you please show the pro league where he did?
He debunked the tier list you’re clinging too.
He debunked nothing. He offered his opinion, same as you. Fact of the matter is that a very highly skilled player is very good on a mesmer period. But a player of that skill will also be good on any class if they know the class well enough. That isn’t any sort of argument that mesmers are OP if only the best mesmer players in the world reach the level he was talking about. The class would be OP if completely average players were able to reach that level but they cannot. Average mesmers can be absolutely demolished.
You absolutely have to stop talking about mesmer as if everyone who plays it plays it as best as can be played, because that just isn’t true. Its the hardest class to master mechanically.
I’m pretty sure that the only person who doesn’t play this game is you, hence why the only argument you ever have for anything is ‘bu…but PRO LEAGUE SAIDIT’.
Classic losing an argument reply here.
Its ok to admit you are wrong.
No, for you see the Pro League said I am right. Why are you calling the Pro League liars?
Its over bow out gracefully.
The topic of the thread has been confirmed and proven many times over. I thank everyone for their contributions
I just said that the pro league agrees with me why are you denying the pro league agrees with me when the pro league does infact agree with me.
Yeah trying a wee bit too hard mate. Just relax and enjoy everything our class gives us.
The Pro League actually says I am not.
Frostball already shut you down in another thread friend.
Now are you trying to argue that mesmers didn’t receive buffs,across the board or something else pertaining to the OP?
I’m arguing that the Pro League agrees with me because they do. They also told me that frostball hasn’t replied to me in any thread so if you are going to call the pro league a liar and say he has can you please show the pro league where he did?
He debunked the tier list you’re clinging too.
hardest class to master mechanically.
At this junction in the discussion it is time for you to post a video of your gameplay. I get a feeling you are just like another poster who goes on and on about how bad things are. She posted her video of gameplay and everyone figured out why she was complaining.
I await your video
I’m pretty sure that the only person who doesn’t play this game is you, hence why the only argument you ever have for anything is ‘bu…but PRO LEAGUE SAIDIT’.
Classic losing an argument reply here.
Its ok to admit you are wrong.
No, for you see the Pro League said I am right. Why are you calling the Pro League liars?
Its over bow out gracefully.
The topic of the thread has been confirmed and proven many times over. I thank everyone for their contributions
I just said that the pro league agrees with me why are you denying the pro league agrees with me when the pro league does infact agree with me.
Yeah trying a wee bit too hard mate. Just relax and enjoy everything our class gives us.
The Pro League actually says I am not.
Frostball already shut you down in another thread friend.
Now are you trying to argue that mesmers didn’t receive buffs,across the board or something else pertaining to the OP?
I’m arguing that the Pro League agrees with me because they do. They also told me that frostball hasn’t replied to me in any thread so if you are going to call the pro league a liar and say he has can you please show the pro league where he did?
He debunked the tier list you’re clinging too.
hardest class to master mechanically.
At this junction in the discussion it is time for you to post a video of your gameplay. I get a feeling you are just like another poster who goes on and on about how bad things are. She posted her video of gameplay and everyone figured out why she was complaining.
I await your video
No. My personal skill as a mesmer doesn’t matter as the best mesmer players on the forums agree with me on the class being underpowered. What is needed is for you to post this video of the current mesmer being God level according to you. Post that video and then the discussion can continue. Stop deflecting, we know that you have no evidence to back up your claim. Unless you can provide this video that proves that mesmer is a godlike class in the current state then I will no longer be participating in this waste of time discussion. Its clear you are not open to the idea that you may be wrong, you have repeatedly ignored any and all evidence and continuously deflect and do nothing except deflect when you are pressed to provide literally even 1 scrap of evidence to support your claims.
Provide your video or this discussion is over for me.
I’m pretty sure that the only person who doesn’t play this game is you, hence why the only argument you ever have for anything is ‘bu…but PRO LEAGUE SAIDIT’.
Classic losing an argument reply here.
Its ok to admit you are wrong.
No, for you see the Pro League said I am right. Why are you calling the Pro League liars?
Its over bow out gracefully.
The topic of the thread has been confirmed and proven many times over. I thank everyone for their contributions
I just said that the pro league agrees with me why are you denying the pro league agrees with me when the pro league does infact agree with me.
Yeah trying a wee bit too hard mate. Just relax and enjoy everything our class gives us.
The Pro League actually says I am not.
Frostball already shut you down in another thread friend.
Now are you trying to argue that mesmers didn’t receive buffs,across the board or something else pertaining to the OP?
I’m arguing that the Pro League agrees with me because they do. They also told me that frostball hasn’t replied to me in any thread so if you are going to call the pro league a liar and say he has can you please show the pro league where he did?
He debunked the tier list you’re clinging too.
Pro League would like to know where I am clinging to this tier list.
I’m pretty sure that the only person who doesn’t play this game is you, hence why the only argument you ever have for anything is ‘bu…but PRO LEAGUE SAIDIT’.
Classic losing an argument reply here.
Its ok to admit you are wrong.
No, for you see the Pro League said I am right. Why are you calling the Pro League liars?
Its over bow out gracefully.
The topic of the thread has been confirmed and proven many times over. I thank everyone for their contributions
I just said that the pro league agrees with me why are you denying the pro league agrees with me when the pro league does infact agree with me.
Yeah trying a wee bit too hard mate. Just relax and enjoy everything our class gives us.
The Pro League actually says I am not.
Frostball already shut you down in another thread friend.
Now are you trying to argue that mesmers didn’t receive buffs,across the board or something else pertaining to the OP?
I’m arguing that the Pro League agrees with me because they do. They also told me that frostball hasn’t replied to me in any thread so if you are going to call the pro league a liar and say he has can you please show the pro league where he did?
He debunked the tier list you’re clinging too.
hardest class to master mechanically.
At this junction in the discussion it is time for you to post a video of your gameplay. I get a feeling you are just like another poster who goes on and on about how bad things are. She posted her video of gameplay and everyone figured out why she was complaining.
I await your video
No. My personal skill as a mesmer doesn’t matter as the best mesmer players on the forums agree with me on the class being underpowered. What is needed is for you to post this video of the current mesmer being God level according to you. Post that video and then the discussion can continue. Stop deflecting, we know that you have no evidence to back up your claim. Unless you can provide this video that proves that mesmer is a godlike class in the current state then I will no longer be participating in this waste of time discussion. Its clear you are not open to the idea that you may be wrong, you have repeatedly ignored any and all evidence and continuously deflect and do nothing except deflect when you are pressed to provide literally even 1 scrap of evidence to support your claims.
Provide your video or this discussion is over for me.
None of that was a YouTube link mate. I can’t help you if you don’t post your video.
I’m pretty sure that the only person who doesn’t play this game is you, hence why the only argument you ever have for anything is ‘bu…but PRO LEAGUE SAIDIT’.
Classic losing an argument reply here.
Its ok to admit you are wrong.
No, for you see the Pro League said I am right. Why are you calling the Pro League liars?
Its over bow out gracefully.
The topic of the thread has been confirmed and proven many times over. I thank everyone for their contributions
I just said that the pro league agrees with me why are you denying the pro league agrees with me when the pro league does infact agree with me.
Yeah trying a wee bit too hard mate. Just relax and enjoy everything our class gives us.
The Pro League actually says I am not.
Frostball already shut you down in another thread friend.
Now are you trying to argue that mesmers didn’t receive buffs,across the board or something else pertaining to the OP?
I’m arguing that the Pro League agrees with me because they do. They also told me that frostball hasn’t replied to me in any thread so if you are going to call the pro league a liar and say he has can you please show the pro league where he did?
He debunked the tier list you’re clinging too.
hardest class to master mechanically.
At this junction in the discussion it is time for you to post a video of your gameplay. I get a feeling you are just like another poster who goes on and on about how bad things are. She posted her video of gameplay and everyone figured out why she was complaining.
I await your video
No. My personal skill as a mesmer doesn’t matter as the best mesmer players on the forums agree with me on the class being underpowered. What is needed is for you to post this video of the current mesmer being God level according to you. Post that video and then the discussion can continue. Stop deflecting, we know that you have no evidence to back up your claim. Unless you can provide this video that proves that mesmer is a godlike class in the current state then I will no longer be participating in this waste of time discussion. Its clear you are not open to the idea that you may be wrong, you have repeatedly ignored any and all evidence and continuously deflect and do nothing except deflect when you are pressed to provide literally even 1 scrap of evidence to support your claims.
Provide your video or this discussion is over for me.
None of that was a YouTube link mate. I can’t help you if you don’t post your video.
The pro league is happy to see you admit I wasn’t clinging to any list.
Azukas.1426:We mesmers got buffed everywhere EVEN condi. The rest of the patch does indeed help the condi build unfortunately
So the build which was God tier ($S3 condi chrono) last meta didn’t get nerfed ($$it got indirectly buffed though, aparently, so God tier x3?)
I got the entire ESL pro league on my side bruh.
Come at me when you have legitimate examples and facts!
Condi got buffed last patch for mesmers with torch buff.
Condi shatter got buffed indirectly from all the nerfs other classes got.
Lack of support? You mean the fact that the entire pro league mirrors what I say? You mean the actual patch notes supporting what I say?
The meta condi shatter mesmer was indirectly buffed by all the nerfs to other classes.
Do I think the effectiveness of Mesmer is what it has been the past few seasons in PvP? Still up in the air due to the meta still settling, but I do believe they are top 3 in terms of class strength.
You must not PvP I guess, and in this thread where did I say Mesmer was God Mode? $$
Cause right now I’m using facts and examples and I’m up against blind fanatical opinion lol
$ Emphesis added
$$ This is where he said chrono was god tier XD
Azukas.1426:Its ok to admit you are wrong.
Though is it? Do you truly believe that? XD
Azukas.1426:The topic of the thread has been confirmed and proven many times over. I thank everyone for their contributions
Topic Title: “Chronomancer Buffs Across Board?”
I guess we missed the question mark since the title begs the question. Based on popular opinion, the answer is a clear, aparent, resounding No.
So what can we take from this thread? A high entertainment value, that’s for sure XD
“http://tinyurl.com/Chronomistrust”
“http://tinyurl.com/flamewarrior”
(edited by Ross Biddle.2367)
Originally wasn’t this post started in pvp forum?
As far as I can see is the that they buff utilitiies that no one is using or not in current the meta.
How the hell did this thread turn to mesmer is op when the buff have nearly 0% effect on the build and power shatter is op too?
Azukas.1426:We mesmers got buffed everywhere EVEN condi. The rest of the patch does indeed help the condi build unfortunately
So the build which was God tier ($S3 condi chrono) last meta didn’t get nerfed ($$it got indirectly buffed though, aparently, so God tier x3?)
I got the entire ESL pro league on my side bruh.
Come at me when you have legitimate examples and facts!
Condi got buffed last patch for mesmers with torch buff.
Condi shatter got buffed indirectly from all the nerfs other classes got.
Lack of support? You mean the fact that the entire pro league mirrors what I say? You mean the actual patch notes supporting what I say?
The meta condi shatter mesmer was indirectly buffed by all the nerfs to other classes.
Do I think the effectiveness of Mesmer is what it has been the past few seasons in PvP? Still up in the air due to the meta still settling, but I do believe they are top 3 in terms of class strength.
You must not PvP I guess, and in this thread where did I say Mesmer was God Mode? $$
Cause right now I’m using facts and examples and I’m up against blind fanatical opinion lol
$ Emphesis added
$$ This is where he said chrono was god tier XDAzukas.1426:Its ok to admit you are wrong.
Though is it? Do you truly believe that? XD
Azukas.1426:The topic of the thread has been confirmed and proven many times over. I thank everyone for their contributions
Topic Title: “Chronomancer Buffs Across Board?”
I guess we missed the question mark since the title begs the question. Based on popular opinion, the answer is a clear, aparent, resounding No.So what can we take from this thread? A high entertainment value, that’s for sure XD
So you’ve come to terms and now are agreeing with me.
Good.
Azukas.1426:We mesmers got buffed everywhere EVEN condi. The rest of the patch does indeed help the condi build unfortunately
So the build which was God tier ($S3 condi chrono) last meta didn’t get nerfed ($$it got indirectly buffed though, aparently, so God tier x3?)
I got the entire ESL pro league on my side bruh.
Come at me when you have legitimate examples and facts!
Condi got buffed last patch for mesmers with torch buff.
Condi shatter got buffed indirectly from all the nerfs other classes got.
Lack of support? You mean the fact that the entire pro league mirrors what I say? You mean the actual patch notes supporting what I say?
The meta condi shatter mesmer was indirectly buffed by all the nerfs to other classes.
Do I think the effectiveness of Mesmer is what it has been the past few seasons in PvP? Still up in the air due to the meta still settling, but I do believe they are top 3 in terms of class strength.
You must not PvP I guess, and in this thread where did I say Mesmer was God Mode? $$
Cause right now I’m using facts and examples and I’m up against blind fanatical opinion lol
$ Emphesis added
$$ This is where he said chrono was god tier XDAzukas.1426:Its ok to admit you are wrong.
Though is it? Do you truly believe that? XD
Azukas.1426:The topic of the thread has been confirmed and proven many times over. I thank everyone for their contributions
Topic Title: “Chronomancer Buffs Across Board?”
I guess we missed the question mark since the title begs the question. Based on popular opinion, the answer is a clear, aparent, resounding No.So what can we take from this thread? A high entertainment value, that’s for sure XD
So you’ve come to terms and now are agreeing with me.
Good.
You’ve really run out of steam haven’t you.
No. My personal skill as a mesmer doesn’t matter as the best mesmer players on the forums agree with me on the class being underpowered.
HAHA! (etc.)
Took literally a good five minutes for me to compose myself irl on this one. I didn’t post on this thread because while the current condition build is way overtuned in the wrong ways, I understand the kit enough to know the changes didn’t really affect the good builds at all.
But this comment… a blanket statement claiming that the mesmer is underpowered? Holy crap this is the definition of nescience. It’s got low personal DPS, yes, to which it’s a tough nut to crack to fix it because of the shatter mechanic. Power shatter wasn’t top-tier because of the ridiculous overpoweredness of the HoT power creep, and thus wasn’t played (like pretty much anything else in the old school power-burst mentality). But the profession being underpowered as a whole? That’s just an absurd remark, particularly when looking at its strictly mandatory use in WvW and absolutely dominating performance in small-scale combat.
That doesn’t mean I don’t think the mesmer needs a lot of changes. Like the thief, it needs a lot of re-examination to make into a better profession as a whole in what it’s capable of doing. But to call it underpowered on the profession-level is just simply absurd.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/ES-Suggestion-The-Deadeye-FORMAL/
Azukas.1426:~You must not PvP I guess, and in this thread where did I say Mesmer was God Mode?
~So the build which was God tier last meta didn’t get nerfed
You say it was God Tier “last meta”.
You say it was buffed (indirectly yada yada) this season.
You think you didn’t claim it was God Tier.
So if it was God Tier last season, and was indirectly buffed this season (making it even stronger aka God Tier+++) then it stands to reason…..
You’re inconsistant.
Azukas.1426:Do I think the effectiveness of Mesmer is what it has been the past few seasons in PvP? Still up in the air due to the meta still settling
You’re also contradictory.
And that’s when you say anything at all, which is rare.
And that’s the thing. You say very little, give very little justification or arguments for your many (and I mean many; albeit reoccurring) claims because if you do, they get dismantled and shown as false very quickly. So it’s no wonder you withhold answering anything and respond only with non sequitur. Over, and over again.
What’s so entertaining is the avid, quite possibly fanatical devotion to it. If you really want to shock us, try answering for the things you say. Maybe you’ll get some better feedback from the large number of intelligent, positive contributors to this forum, not to mention the class.
Just some friendly advice. :)
<3
Azukas.1426:~You must not PvP I guess, and in this thread where did I say Mesmer was God Mode?
~So the build which was God tier last meta didn’t get nerfed
You say it was God Tier “last meta”.
You say it was buffed (indirectly yada yada) this season.
You think you didn’t claim it was God Tier.
So if it was God Tier last season, and was indirectly buffed this season (making it even stronger aka God Tier+++) then it stands to reason…..
You’re inconsistant.
Azukas.1426:Do I think the effectiveness of Mesmer is what it has been the past few seasons in PvP? Still up in the air due to the meta still settling
You’re also contradictory.
And that’s when you say anything at all, which is rare.
And that’s the thing. You say very little, give very little justification or arguments for your many (and I mean many; albeit reoccurring) claims because if you do, they get dismantled and shown as false very quickly. So it’s no wonder you withhold answering anything and respond only with non sequitur. Over, and over again.
What’s so entertaining is the avid, quite possibly fanatical devotion to it. If you really want to shock us, try answering for the things you say. Maybe you’ll get some better feedback from the large number of intelligent, positive contributors to this forum, not to mention the class.
Just some friendly advice.
<3
This is amazing. But honestly its falling on deaf ears, if he hasn’t listened by now he won’t listen to this logic either. Doesn’t even matter that he contradicts himself, he doesn’t seem to care.
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