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Posted by: Feral.3609

Feral.3609

I’ve heard a lot of complaints about condi mesmer and nerfs to MtD etc. I’m not saying this to be an kitten , but they are legit, extremely powerful right now. I’m currently running full condi with your “nerfed” traits and completely dominate in 1v1’s and team fights (both in WvW and high end ranked pvp) with all the tools and abilities mesmers have. I think they should be toned down a bit more as right now they are capable of way too much. This build does high damage like the power version but is significantly tankier and has more defensive options.

I wasn’t going to post my build (created right as the patch hit and haven’t needed to look back) but I’ll do it anyhow as someone will figure it out eventually:

Dueling: Phantasmal Fury, Blinding Dissipation, Deceptive Evasion
Chaos: Illusionary Defense, Chaotic Transference, Prismatic Understanding
Illusions: The Pledge, Maim the Disillusioned, Ineptitude

Scepter/Torch, Sword Pistol
Sigil of Energy and Doom on both sets
Full Rabid with Travellers Runes.

Ether Feast, Decoy, Null Field, Blink, Mass Invisibility

For a WvW setup you’d have just over 17k health before stacks and over 19k after. Why use Full Rabid? You have all the survivability you need in your weapon sets, stealth, invuls, blinks, condi cleanses, etc, to win. At the very most I’d recommend you only get on a few pieces of Dire (in your armor slots) making sure you don’t go under 40% crit chance. Since your stats affect every illusion you summon, full rabid will benefit you much more as you’ll stack significantly more bleeds. This is assuming you know how to dodge/block/use invuls/blind your opponent.

I’d also recommend playing d/p glass thief to learn how powerful blinds can be at shutting down your opponent as effective use of this will highly increase your survivability.

I’ve never video recorded my playing so if someone is interested in watching me use this help me out with recording and I’ll add it to this thread.

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Posted by: denis.9487

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Why are you advertising ranked pvp play and using pu? This build looks good for wvw roaming and small engagements. Condi losses effects with more players. So zerging would go power.

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Posted by: Feral.3609

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In response to Denis I’m advertising ranked because this works in rank. I can post screenshots of high ranked matches against recognized players where I’m first place in top kills, defends, and points. It is rare that I’m not top player on a team (I solo queue) and play ranked only. I think posting screenshots with other players names on the forums is against the rules but I can upload them send them to you and you can confirm it here. Condi used to lose effectiveness with more players because we didn’t have this much application before. Played properly you can aoe bomb areas in team fights dropping multiple people. With the current changes its not about long duration sticking conditions for Mesmer, kills are made through constant application which we can do well.

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Posted by: Fay.2357

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Good luck getting condies to stick against a decent team though. Guard, ele, ele, aaaaand condies don’t stick for more than a second or two. Add the insane amounts of transfers that necros have and are running, and you’ve got a lot of trouble on your hands.

Meanwhile, guard drops cleansing flames on point, and pulses 3 stacks of burning every second for long enough to kill anyone that stands on it.

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Posted by: faely.3508

faely.3508

@ Fay, I have seen the screen shots of this build used in spvp matches against recognized players. As Feral pointed out, it isn’t about long duration, it is about application. As with any build that someone doubts, I would recommend at least either seeing the proof that it does work, or trying it out personally, before negating it.

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Posted by: denis.9487

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The proof is the lack of representation in tournament play against quality teams. A team not 1/2 random names in a match. Also stealth for long durations negates the primary pvp mode. Hence the opposition. Also pre patch maim was in a better place.

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Posted by: Carighan.6758

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Hrm, I would say neither stealth nor conditions are a good pick for either large-scale WvW or ranked. Especially the latter.

That isn’t to say that it cannot work in random match-ups. But get an organized team or a partial team and you’ll never get any condition to stick on them, as their auto-procs keep cleansing them off. Plus stealth means you cannot do anything, and they happily cash in the points.

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Posted by: Sadrien.3470

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Have fun. Be Alive. K Thnx Bye.

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Posted by: messiah.1908

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from my testing (and video posted) the build viable as holding far or close points even in some 1v2 till help comes.
in mid where you have 4v4 or 3v3 if there is ele and/or guard your condi wont goona stick but you will make the ele to be more on water and guard to use cleanse so if your team is good they can burst the ele fast after he gets out of water. etc.
but again condi guard and necro and engi can do it the sae if not better

our burst condi was nerf and we got blind to support us bit more and 1 confusion stack. so now instead of 20 torment and 10 confusion i can do 15 confusion and 8 torment you do the math (moving>skill use)

condi mesmer are great in 1v1 (romaing and hot join) but to be effective in group play you need to play it right with the right group composition

also cause the meta shofted to full power now the bunker lost its place. this is why condi mesmer can shine. as you can hold 1v1 and some 1v2 while doing dmg