Guild Wars 2

I was thinking, that this would be awesome. A grandmaster trait in inspiration, that has the effect of granting you distortion when you channel a mantra. It could have an internal cool down to prevent “spamming” distortion with Mantra of Pain. And distortion might only last for 1 or 2 seconds, so not the whole channel is protected and allows a bit of counter play (aka, allow the opponent to interrupt your channel).

What do you think?

Not a bad idea, but I think mantras need to benefit from quickness more. I’m hoping chronomancer has a quickness field or quickness traits to help mantras out.

I think invuln on cast is a bit strong, and too much of an icd would make it not very desirable. 2s during with no ICD could be really nice though.

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I keep holding out for a buff to Harmonious Mantra’s. One that adds 2sec of quickness AFTER a mantra charge is completed(5 sec ICD).

Basically, you’d be rewarded for charging multiple mantras back to back. The first one is 2.5 seconds, quickness triggers for your 2nd mantra if you wish. The ICD is there to make sure you don’t end up chaining a full mantra bar together. Or taking advantage of the quickness in other ways.

I actually LOVE this idea!!! <3 It being in Inspiration trait line would synergize well with mantra tank/support builds!

I think an ICD of 10s with 1-2s of distortion on cast is balanced. Ideally, this would give you a 1-2 second invuln every time you use the mantra heal. Not having an icd would be insanely OP imho.

Or maybe they could just buff Protected Mantras to give distortion instead of toughness? I only take that trait if I’m running a tank/support mantra build, but I don’t think it’s wise to take it in a power based build.

I actually think it would compete with DE for a valuable trait slot in Mantra builds.

Honestly i love the idea of distortion on mantra recharge, but 600+ toughness is legit none the less. So if they removed the 600 toughness and changed it to distortion for 2 seconds mind you that trait is in master dueling, you’ll miss out of X trait, forcing you togo 6 in dueling or miss out on an extra mantra charge trait found in grandmaster.

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Honestly i love the idea of distortion on mantra recharge, but 600+ toughness is legit none the less. So if they removed the 600 toughness and changed it to distortion for 2 seconds mind you that trait is in master dueling, you’ll miss out of X trait, forcing you togo 6 in dueling or miss out on an extra mantra charge trait found in grandmaster.

Well imo, I’m not so sure if Deceptive Evasion is always a must for Mantra builds. It’s never really a must-have in a mantra support/tank build, and I would argue it wouldn’t be of grave importance in a dps build either. Especially if you’re going 6/6/x/x/x.

You don’t typically see dps builds taking Protected Mantras, because 600+ toughness on a zerker build doesn’t really make that big of a difference in the grand scheme of dmg mitigation. Distortion, on the other hand, makes a HUGE difference. For a nich build like Mantra, I could see a lot of people preferring the distortion over DE. I definitely would. Distortions are very underrated (see my build in the signature).

I have always been partial to the idea of Mantra channeling happening in the background, simultaneous to the activation of other skills, but still interrupted by cc or dodging; only a single mantra at a time, mind you.

It’s a great idea in and of itself, but the OP’ness comes from the utility of chain casting simply to distort to mitigate long durations of damage.

In otherwords, protecting the channel is great, protecting the mesmer might be the problem. So instead you could have “gain stability for the duration of a mantra channel” or “gain defiance while channeling mantras”.

Couple this with reduced channel time and people will actually take it :p

The idea has merit, though if it can be freely used on demand (by aborting and recasting), it’d be a bit strong.

I’d do it like this:

Blurred Mantras
While channeling a mantra, the channel cannot be interrupted in any way and you gain Distortion.
Duration: 2,75s
Cooldown: 2,75s
Note: You cannot interrupt your own mantra channel in any way, either, and you are factually interrupted and cannot use other instant-cast skills while it’s channeling.

I’m a big fan of changing Protective Mantras to grant some sort of mechanic to actually protect the channel and suggested several things in the past. We could gain projectile reflection while channeling or Distortion or maybe even a block to create some synergy with Retaliatory Shield.

No cooldown at all would not work because people would abuse the hell out of such a trait. However, there has to be a reasonable cooldown. If we are talking about something like Distortion it should at least be at about 10s. 2.75s isn’t acceptable because you could still chain Mantras quite easily. It would be nice for a bunker build I can’t see how such an uptime of Distortion could be justified.

I don’t like the Stability-idea. We already got a Mantra for that.

I don’t like the idea of it being not interruptable. It would mean that no counter play is allowed to a set of skills that can almost not be predicted and have no animation, once the mantra is charged. So you can’t react to them either. I like the name though

Why not like this?

Blurred Mantras
While channeling mantras, you gain distortion. Mantra channel time is reduced.
Distortion duration: 1s
Channel reduction: 3/4s (so Mantra channel is now 2s)
Internal cool down (upon triggering the trait): 15-20s
Note (most likely in Wiki): This trait synergizes with the trait Masterful Reflection.

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But I also like the idea of stability upon channeling. Depending on impact of incoming stabi change and amount of stability granted this could be even used to share stability in WvW fights^^

Its overpowered I’m afraid – would rather not have it – but i do think we need to stay creative with trait ideas so keep trying.

Would be pretty OP but would be about the only thing justifying Mantras having to be channeled.