Does ANYONE know how downed skill #2 works?
I’ll just quote myself from another thread on this exact topic that conveniently still happens to be on the front page of this forum.
You’re using the wrong aspect of the skill to avoid a stomp, and this is why the Mesmer downed state is more reliable than the thief downed state for avoiding stomps.
If you are stealthed when the stomp finishes, it will fail. Since the #2 skill stealths you, that is what you use to avoid the stomp. A simple teleport, like thief, can be countered with another chasing teleport mid-stomp. The only way to counter the Mesmer stealth is with reveal.
Therefor, the proper way to use the Mesmer downed state is to wait until the stomp has almost completed, then use the skill. You will stealth and the stomp will miss.
I’ll just quote myself from another thread on this exact topic that conveniently still happens to be on the front page of this forum.
You’re using the wrong aspect of the skill to avoid a stomp, and this is why the Mesmer downed state is more reliable than the thief downed state for avoiding stomps.
If you are stealthed when the stomp finishes, it will fail. Since the #2 skill stealths you, that is what you use to avoid the stomp. A simple teleport, like thief, can be countered with another chasing teleport mid-stomp. The only way to counter the Mesmer stealth is with reveal.
Therefor, the proper way to use the Mesmer downed state is to wait until the stomp has almost completed, then use the skill. You will stealth and the stomp will miss.
Well to be fair, this is very much a PvP advice. In PvE, the randomness of #2 makes it unreliable. So the situations is:
- it can be a way to get out of a bad AOE. But not reliably so.
- It can be a way to trick stupid AI by the clone generation and give you a bit of time.
Overall I would say this is not a skill you should necessarily use. In fractals, your hope is to get rezzed, and the teleport may put you in a worse situation (closer to the enemy or its AOE) and confuse your team more than the enemies. So use #2 only if you think it will help you which I think are mostly the 2 situations highlighted above.
I’ll just quote myself from another thread on this exact topic that conveniently still happens to be on the front page of this forum.
You’re using the wrong aspect of the skill to avoid a stomp, and this is why the Mesmer downed state is more reliable than the thief downed state for avoiding stomps.
If you are stealthed when the stomp finishes, it will fail. Since the #2 skill stealths you, that is what you use to avoid the stomp. A simple teleport, like thief, can be countered with another chasing teleport mid-stomp. The only way to counter the Mesmer stealth is with reveal.
Therefor, the proper way to use the Mesmer downed state is to wait until the stomp has almost completed, then use the skill. You will stealth and the stomp will miss.
Well to be fair, this is very much a PvP advice. In PvE, the randomness of #2 makes it unreliable. So the situations is:
- it can be a way to get out of a bad AOE. But not reliably so.
- It can be a way to trick stupid AI by the clone generation and give you a bit of time.
Overall I would say this is not a skill you should necessarily use. In fractals, your hope is to get rezzed, and the teleport may put you in a worse situation (closer to the enemy or its AOE) and confuse your team more than the enemies. So use #2 only if you think it will help you which I think are mostly the 2 situations highlighted above.
The op is asking about fractal avengers, which are just mobs that spawn to stomp you. My advice is perfectly relevant here.
Oh, my bad. This shows my absolute lack of knowledge about fractals.
Oh, my bad. This shows my absolute lack of knowledge about fractals.
It’s ok. It’s PvE. You’re not expected to fill your mind with trash (even if millions of people willingly watch things like reality TV every day) XD
The randomness of the downstate 2 is part of the chaotic nature of a Mesmer. Just embrace it.
dat moment when a random pug in fractal spawn 3 avengers within 10 seconds…
dat moment when a random pug in fractal spawn 3 avengers within 10 seconds…
… and gets you insta finished by the first avenger #goodmechanics
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“Mentoring engineers / mesmers and showing you what you can do with your fantastic class!
Just pm me for my advice! Always eager to help!”