Ele's are the new Mesmers counters
Still thief /15chars
^ Usually only characer that i play on
Momekas Namu
I haven’t had much trouble with Elementalist yet, but in the little bit of play-time I got last night I didn’t encounter that many Elementalists so perhaps I didn’t run up against a good one.
What makes you think they are our counter?
What build(s) were you running?
Were you able to ascertain what build(s) they were running?
Try your best to not make mistakes, but, when you do make mistakes, learn from them.
Better yourself.
Dom/Duel/Insp with Power Block, Shattered Conc, DE, Heal- and Interrupt Mantra (Restorative traited) wrecks every ele. Seriously. You’re healing up as fast as a medi guard with that setup, and condis aren’t even a problem anymore (cleanse/heal on shatter, cleanse on heal, heal on mantra, regen or phant defender on top of that)
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Dom/Duel/Insp with Power Block, Shattered Conc, DE, Heal- and Interrupt Mantra (Restorative traited) wrecks every ele. Seriously. You’re healing up as fast as a medi guard with that setup, and condis aren’t even a problem anymore (cleanse/heal on shatter, cleanse on heal, heal on mantra, regen or phant defender on top of that)
I havent run that build yet.. might as well test it now.
I have been running a condition shatter build after the patch. As long as I am not caught off guard ( and even then…) I will always kill the theif. The few Eles I have fought haven’t been a problem either but I only 1v1ed 3 Eles who weren’t great.
I recommend the usual sword/torch GS power shatter setup for it, and save the interrupt mantra for heals/water attunement. =)
Dom/Duel/Insp with Power Block, Shattered Conc, DE, Heal- and Interrupt Mantra (Restorative traited) wrecks every ele. Seriously. You’re healing up as fast as a medi guard with that setup, and condis aren’t even a problem anymore (cleanse/heal on shatter, cleanse on heal, heal on mantra, regen or phant defender on top of that)
I havent run that build yet.. might as well test it now.
Nope.. just finished testing the build. Yes..it does work vs Ele’s..but the thieves gets you now. Bad trade off. I rather keep my PU power shatter build & give no quarters to thieves.
I recommend tetrodoxin’s build for power.
For conditions I was running similar but replaced Domination with Illusions and swapped out Greatsword.
Inspiration is so much better now than it was … especially with all the condis.
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I’ve been getting two hit by eles. But it might be my build, but I’ve been experimenting a lot
I had trouble fighting cele d/f elementalist. Tried dom/duel/chaos and dom/duel/illus
E: Part of the problem might be that im not familiar with focus skills..
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Ain’t that bad vs thiefs either. Blind on shatter helps a lot.
The burst combo is pretty much like always, except you’re engaging with a mantra stun to land it. That usually works for me.
Also, I prefer Marauder over Berserker amulet.
Didn’t lose a single 1×1 last night with my shatter condi. Surprisingly enough, my two toughest fights were against power rangers. They’ve amazing condi cleanse now.
Thieves would just melt. I would even /sit and wait for them to attack me after they used shadow refuge.
ele feels like joke to me, though I’m taking inspiration.
Didn’t lose a single 1×1 last night with my shatter condi. Surprisingly enough, my two toughest fights were against power rangers. They’ve amazing condi cleanse now.
Thieves would just melt. I would even /sit and wait for them to attack me after they used shadow refuge.
Thieves will melt mostly on shatter builds. Phantasm & other slow builds they have the upper hand. Most of the time.
Dom/Duel/Insp with Power Block, Shattered Conc, DE, Heal- and Interrupt Mantra (Restorative traited) wrecks every ele. Seriously. You’re healing up as fast as a medi guard with that setup, and condis aren’t even a problem anymore (cleanse/heal on shatter, cleanse on heal, heal on mantra, regen or phant defender on top of that)
Can someone provide more detail on this build? Wepons used? Utilities?
Can someone provide more detail on this build? Wepons used? Utilities?
It’s pretty much what jax posted here:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Anti-cond-build-Thoughts/first#post5204591
I’m using Mental Defense instead of Illusionary Inspiration, and I’m usually slotting some generosity sigils, ending up with something like this for team comps:
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-RFkg;1ZUk3147cVV71;9;4STV;0038038146;4Uom6T;1CoF2CoF25C
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Using PU Condi, there is an Ele build that my Condis will not stick to… that is pretty much the only profession/build that I can not beat.
Here are my experiences based on the two builds I’ve heavily played with since the patch, which were a pre-nerf Condition Shatter build using interrupts/blinds/pistol (Dom/Due/Ill). The second build was Signet Support Tank, which has a lot of healing. My thoughts:
- Ele had a lot of condition clears. More so than before? I’m unsure.
- The burns were more deadly than before. Usually, I wouldn’t panic, but I had to worry about it more often.
- I felt like Ele had more survivability. I saw eles attuned to earth more often than I used to.
- Still easy to rip most of their boons away when on condi shatter.
- Ele is more susceptible to interrupt traits than before (or maybe everyone is since we can take multiple). I noticed that when I got a good Powerblock/CI off on my signet tank, the ele floundered.
- I noticed that eles behaved kind of like Mesmers at times (when I was on my tank). This is to say they went through a long burst rotation, and when they couldn’t finish me off, the dps dropped and they sort of retreated before re-engaging. This was most strange, because my tank isn’t super threatening except for when I interrupt. When I was on condi shatter, most eles were aggressive throughout the entire engagement.
Overall, Ele seemed to be a more difficult opponent than before. special mention goes to guards who also seemed to be very threatening to my two builds.
“The jealous are troublesome to others, but certainly a torment to themselves.”
Using PU Condi, there is an Ele build that my Condis will not stick to… that is pretty much the only profession/build that I can not beat.
It’s the same with the burst power shatter. But i’m fine with it. It’s not like before when thief could 1.5 sec down you. Ele’s still have to work for there mesmer kill.
ps: phantasm build does work well on ele’s but leave you vulnerable to the rest..espacially thieves.