Guild Wars 2

We know that anet wants all elite spells to have a skill type and give us the opportunity to trait them.
Our 3 elites we have are Polymorph Moa, Mass Invisibility and Time Warp
Our Skill types are: Mantra, Glamour, Signet, Illusion, Manipulation

The easiest one to define is Time Warp which obviously should be a Glamour skill.

Now the next one: Polymorph Moa. This imo should be a Manipulation. The Trait could give us a reflect while casting it to be able to cast it without being interrupted by projectiles. Illusion does not fit at all and Mantra or Signet would maybe be too weird or powerful.

The last one is Mass Invisibility. Most think that this should be a Manipulation as well but I think it should be different. I think Glamour does not fit at all. Manipulation is already taken by Moa and it obviously does not summon an illusion.

I can think of two possible ways for Mass Invisibility:

Mantra of Invisibilty:
Meditate, charging a spell that will instantly grant stealth to you and your allies when activated.
A mantra that grants 3s stealth per cast to up to 5 targets in a 360 radius. The Charge has a 60-90s cooldown and the charges have a 2s cooldown. It would allow us to trait it for 3 charges, use it in cooler ways and it would prevent the issue with instantly unstealthing when traiting for Manipulations (reflect->reveal).

Signet of Mass Invisibility:
Passive: Briefly gain stealth whenever you summon a clone.
Active: You and your allies gain stealth for a short time.
This would make the Mass invisibility a signet which could be extremly cool when used with Phase Retreat, Deceptive Evasion, iLeap or other skills. I can already see an issue with Mirror Blade which could instantly reveal us when creating a clone and hitting another enemy. The passive effect should be <1s per clone. The active effect should be the same as Mass Invisibility is now.

TL;DR:
They said that they wanted to give every elite spell a category.
I think that Moa and Mass Invis match with Manipulation but there shouldn’t be two Manipulations as elite spell so Mass Invis should either be a Signet or a Mantra.

What do you think?

I’d prefere it as a Signet. As you said the passive you gave it would cause problems with some skills and would mostly just cause us to have reveal most of the time. Not sure what passive I would give it that would stick with the genral theme of the skill though.

Levetty.1279:

I’d prefere it as a Signet. As you said the passive you gve it would cause problems with some skills are we would mostly just cause us to have reveal on us most of the time. Not sure what passive I would give it that would stick with the genral theme of the skill though.

Maybe something that gives us benefits when attacking from stealth/being stealthed.
Or just stealth on dodge?

Mass Invisibility – Deception
Moa Morph – Transformation
Time Warp – Arcane

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Hehe nah, I’m thinking two manipulations and a glamour here.

Me Games Ma.8426:

Maybe something that gives us benefits when attacking from stealth/being stealthed.

I do like the sound of that one… kind of. I actually hate how broken stealth is in this game and in particular how theives can cause massive bursts instantly out of stealth but if theives can do it then I don’t see why we can’t have some benefits from attacking from stealth.

No reason there can’t be two manipulations as elites. I’ll point to Necro, and Guardian.

Daniel Handler.4816:

No reason there can’t be two manipulations as elites. I’ll point to Necro, and Guardian.

Guard is most likely getting its tomes turned into different skill classes. I’m not saying that it isn’t possible though. I just wouldn’t like it. (And i’ve always wanted an elite mantra or an elite signet :P)

Daniel Handler.4816:

No reason there can’t be two manipulations as elites. I’ll point to Necro, and Guardian.

Yup. Mass Invis is almost certainly going to be a Manipulation. An Elite signet would certainly be fun, though.

Moa’s the only weird one.

MI is almost certainly going to be a manipulation and TW a glamour.

I don’t know what Moa will be classified as – possibly an illusion skill?

I absolutely LOVE the idea of Mantra of Invisibility. AOE instant cast invisibility. Ahh! The problem is that you’d have to give it a high enough CD to compensate for the fact that you’re getting 2-3 casts.

I think a good passive for Signet of Invisibility would be to go invis for 2s at the end of casting a heal skill. I think invis on start of cast would be OP.

I think they’re simply going to make it a Manipulation, but it’s still fun to speculate and theory craft! haha

Hm… we got Mass Manipulation and Signet of Moaity fine with me