False Oasis Healing Misconceptions

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Posted by: Mastamaker.2957

Mastamaker.2957

So many people are blinded by their dislike for mirage that they’re spreading blatant misinformation about this skill. A lot of people are claiming that you must stay stationary in the oasis mirage in order to receive the passive healing.

You do not.

The mirage just marks the location where the mirage mirror will spawn. You can move freely anywhere and still receive healing. The healing buff stays on your buff bar even after leaving the original location.

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Posted by: Adrianna.3092

Adrianna.3092

still doesnt make the skill good eaither way… if you leave the area its just a worse heal at that point and youd be better off taking ether feast… you know what just use ether feast its wayyy better..

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Posted by: Levetty.1279

Levetty.1279

Yeah, its a big conspiracy against Mirage, it isn’t that everything about the spec is useless and poorly designed.

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Posted by: Alpha.1308

Alpha.1308

i mean Adrianna’s not wrong
and i wouldn’t say “everything” is useless and poorly designed
ok…. maybe a lot of it… like all the utilities, most of the traits…. and… ok maybe everything
but those Mirrors… are just godawful…. how did that get past any alpha testers to be even remotely okay?
“please don’t hit me for a few seconds while i walk over here on my melee e-spec”
and if most pre-beta testers DID mention how atrocious it was, why is anet okay with ignoring feedback…

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Posted by: Mikkel.8427

Mikkel.8427

but those Mirrors… are just godawful…. how did that get past any alpha testers to be even remotely okay?
“please don’t hit me for a few seconds while i walk over here on my melee e-spec”
and if most pre-beta testers DID mention how atrocious it was, why is anet okay with ignoring feedback…

The mirrors stayed because they’re gorgeous. Of course, that’s the ONLY reason. Its hard to believe a single E-spec could have so many awful mechanics bundled together and make it this far…

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Posted by: Miku Lawrence.6329

Miku Lawrence.6329

but those Mirrors… are just godawful…. how did that get past any alpha testers to be even remotely okay?
“please don’t hit me for a few seconds while i walk over here on my melee e-spec”
and if most pre-beta testers DID mention how atrocious it was, why is anet okay with ignoring feedback…

The mirrors stayed because they’re gorgeous. Of course, that’s the ONLY reason. Its hard to believe a single E-spec could have so many awful mechanics bundled together and make it this far…

They kept the mirrors because some artist made a .psd file of a shiny mirror. They HAD to design the whole elite spec around a picture, you know… (Source – last Guild Chat).

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Posted by: glenndevis.8327

glenndevis.8327

Mirage Mirrors are annoying either way.
Almost to the point where I’d almost rather main another class for PvP. (alongside all the other problems that Mirage brings.)

False Oasis should have 3 pulses. Pulse 1 heals, Pulse 2 heals and Pulse 3 gives us Mirage Cloak & restores some endurance.

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Posted by: Daharahj.1325

Daharahj.1325

You’re not supposed to use False Oasis the same way you use Ether Feast, it’s an overtime heal with a combat buff; you use it at the beginning of the fight, essentially shoving off 5~ seconds off its cooldown.

I feel like they could make it more useful if they either removed the mirror spawn outright and buffed it elsewhere, or fixed mirrors to be more consistent (like making mirrors grant a longer cloak).

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Posted by: musu.9205

musu.9205

You’re not supposed to use False Oasis the same way you use Ether Feast, it’s an overtime heal with a combat buff; you use it at the beginning of the fight, essentially shoving off 5~ seconds off its cooldown.

I feel like they could make it more useful if they either removed the mirror spawn outright and buffed it elsewhere, or fixed mirrors to be more consistent (like making mirrors grant a longer cloak).

are u serious ?

use your healing skill before fight lol on a elite spec without sustain dmg and sustain heal or defense .
by your logic they could reduce a lot of heal to half coz they can cast before fight .

so you have to purposely lose 8k hp just to make heal skill use before right then for 25s u cant heal from beginning of fight ?

i thought people defend deadeye 107k dmg from one skill is ridiculous enough,guess im wrong

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Posted by: Daharahj.1325

Daharahj.1325

You’re not supposed to use False Oasis the same way you use Ether Feast, it’s an overtime heal with a combat buff; you use it at the beginning of the fight, essentially shoving off 5~ seconds off its cooldown.

I feel like they could make it more useful if they either removed the mirror spawn outright and buffed it elsewhere, or fixed mirrors to be more consistent (like making mirrors grant a longer cloak).

are u serious ?

use your healing skill before fight lol on a elite spec without sustain dmg and sustain heal or defense .
by your logic they could reduce a lot of heal to half coz they can cast before fight .

so you have to purposely lose 8k hp just to make heal skill use before right then for 25s u cant heal from beginning of fight ?

i thought people defend deadeye 107k dmg from one skill is ridiculous enough,guess im wrong

No, the heal is ticking while you take damage. It’s not being wasted.

I said at the beginning of the fight, not before. I chose that word carefully.

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Posted by: Curunen.8729

Curunen.8729

False Oasis feels more reminiscent of Troll Unguent for ranger – and in that way I agree with Daharahj it makes sense if it is intended to be used preemptively, and then sustain you through some time in the fight.

However due to the nature of mesmer, and in particular mirage, this kind of heal doesn’t help us as much as it does for ranger – because ranger has mechanics and gameplay that synergise better with small healing per second over a longer time.

It could work for mesmer, but certainly needs a cooldown reduction for a start.

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Posted by: Levetty.1279

Levetty.1279

False Oasis feels more reminiscent of Troll Unguent for ranger – and in that way I agree with Daharahj it makes sense if it is intended to be used preemptively, and then sustain you through some time in the fight.

However due to the nature of mesmer, and in particular mirage, this kind of heal doesn’t help us as much as it does for ranger – because ranger has mechanics and gameplay that synergise better with small healing per second over a longer time.

It could work for mesmer, but certainly needs a cooldown reduction for a start.

Was going to say this. I actually still use Troll Unguent sometimes even with how much better Heal as One is in every build. But Mesmer and Mirage in particular can’t really make use of it in the same way Ranger can. Also Troll Unguent has a much better trait.

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Posted by: Exciton.8942

Exciton.8942

You’re not supposed to use False Oasis the same way you use Ether Feast, it’s an overtime heal with a combat buff; you use it at the beginning of the fight, essentially shoving off 5~ seconds off its cooldown.

I feel like they could make it more useful if they either removed the mirror spawn outright and buffed it elsewhere, or fixed mirrors to be more consistent (like making mirrors grant a longer cloak).

are u serious ?

use your healing skill before fight lol on a elite spec without sustain dmg and sustain heal or defense .
by your logic they could reduce a lot of heal to half coz they can cast before fight .

so you have to purposely lose 8k hp just to make heal skill use before right then for 25s u cant heal from beginning of fight ?

i thought people defend deadeye 107k dmg from one skill is ridiculous enough,guess im wrong

No, the heal is ticking while you take damage. It’s not being wasted.

I said at the beginning of the fight, not before. I chose that word carefully.

Your suggestion is not valid.

Majority of professions either have poison application or take sigil of doom. So in middle of a fight, you are more than likely to get poisoned. That severely cripples the amount of healing you can gain.

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Posted by: Mikkel.8427

Mikkel.8427

I would have no problem with this heal if it had a reasonable cooldown.

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Posted by: Exciton.8942

Exciton.8942

I think the reason that this heal has a high CD is that it brings a utility. i.e. the mirage mirror.

However, mirage mirror is close to being useless with its current implementation.

The heal is not the only skill that hurts from it. We have other utilities and traits that are underwhelming due to this mechanics not being as strong as Anet devs imagined.