Guild Wars 2

Always happy to help! And as this is the 100th reply, I feel I should add..

Hey guys, I just wanted to take a moment to say thank you for all the support and wonderful reception to the Chaos Maestro. The build took a while to create, but the guide came to me overnight in a moment of inspiration. Suddenly I took all my notes and spent five hours on a Saturday (freakin’ Saturday!) afternoon writing everything into this guide.
The name took a while; Chaotic Guardian (too comparative to the Guardian), Chaosmancer (I figured an anti-necro with the boons versus conditions), until eventually “Chaos Maestro” just stole my heart. My original mission was simply to bring support builds into a better light alongside DPS and tanky builds like the Shattercat and Immortal Mesmer but the reception simply blew me away.

Its unbelievably humbling when people from all around the world are using your build, especially in the neighborhood I come from (I live, for all intents and purposes, in the hood. In an environment that doesn’t normally encourage stepping out of the norm). So when someone from Greece is messaging me and asking questions.. it really made my jaw drop.

I hadn’t expected even a 1000 views, much less over 10,000. If even a small fraction of that is using the Chaos Maestro or was inspired to forge their own build, then I my original mission is more than accomplished.

This guide turned out to be an incredible learning and growing experience. From learning how to debate to properly presenting facts with research behind it. I can say I’ve grown for the better from all of it, and I have the entire Mesmer community to thank for that. (From 9 to 5 while I kill time at work)

Thanks all, and forever happy for the support
-Chaos.

Hey Chaos I had a question about this build. I am running it in WvW because I love the idea of supplying boons to everyone. So far it has been really successful however the only problem I am having is that my Phantasms are not staying alive to provide regeneration. They just die right away, before I can even shatter them for vigor. Any tips on this?

Running full Clerics with runes of Dwayne.
10 Domination – VI
30 Chaos – IV, X, XII
30 Inspiration – III, VIII, X

Phantasm survival is pretty darn situational. wrong place and wrong time is dead phantasm. WvW is even less reliable because they lose the health boost from PvE. Your best bet for regeneration would be with staff 3 or pistol 4. Ranged Phantasms tend to fare better.

I give some WvW phantasm pointers in the paladin build in my signature. Essentially you need to keep them in the mid to back line and always try to get them behind your temporal curtain or warden. Sometimes it’s difficult when you’re trying to target enemies flying all over the place, but it will come with some practice.

Deathcon.5903:

Hey Chaos I had a question about this build. I am running it in WvW because I love the idea of supplying boons to everyone. So far it has been really successful however the only problem I am having is that my Phantasms are not staying alive to provide regeneration. They just die right away, before I can even shatter them for vigor. Any tips on this?

Running full Clerics with runes of Dwayne.
10 Domination – VI
30 Chaos – IV, X, XII
30 Inspiration – III, VIII, X

Hey,
Unfortunately your Phantasms will never be a reliable source of Regeneration in a zerg situation. Since you have Runes of Dwayna, you are the prime source of regen (Esecially if you’re using Chocolate Omnomberry Creams, which would have your regen duration at 70%) spreading regen. Mantra of Recovery is a huge help for this.

Ranged Phantasms like Warlock are your best bet, but even then you should be trying to grab the Regen from them yourself to add to your own duration of regeneration for when you pop Signet of Inspiration.

I need to test how much longer the extra 450 toughness (from Protected Mantras-Dueling VI- and Chaotic Dampening) keep Phantasms alive in Cleric’s gear.

Chaos Archangel.5071:

Hey,
Unfortunately your Phantasms will never be a reliable source of Regeneration in a zerg situation. Since you have Runes of Dwayna, you are the prime source of regen (Esecially if you’re using Chocolate Omnomberry Creams, which would have your regen duration at 70%) spreading regen. Mantra of Recovery is a huge help for this.

Ranged Phantasms like Warlock are your best bet, but even then you should be trying to grab the Regen from them yourself to add to your own duration of regeneration for when you pop Signet of Inspiration.

I need to test how much longer the extra 450 toughness (from Protected Mantras-Dueling VI- and Chaotic Dampening) keep Phantasms alive in Cleric’s gear.

Yeah, they aren’t a reliable source – good way to put it, but they are still an effective source with proper positioning and practice. Getting a nice amount of regen on yourself to share is one of the best ways, to your point. Taking persisting images becomes that much more important, as well as using the iDefender in these cases. I like the mantra toughness idea.

Being that you recommend dwayna runes in WvW, it almost makes sense to have two sets of gear. One with altruism runes for dungeons and other specific WvW uses, and one set with dwayna runes for zerging.

Definitely true. Effective phantasm placement takes a bit of practice but it pays off when you’re subconsciously dropping Phantasmal “healing sentries” in all the right places.

I think having two sets of gear for the runes is a good idea.. But not necessarily just for zerging. I’ve been stuck in this internal debate on whether Runes of Altruism or Runes of Dwayna (assuming you have Cleric’s setup) is better for zergs.. and I’ve concluded that it really depends on playstyle. Healing and boon support can be mixed, or can be specialized to prefer either heals or buffs.

Handin’s “The Glamorous Medic” uses Runes of Mercy, which is also another really strong and tempting support option (Rezz quicker + more defense while rezzing) in a massive battle, especially with Medic’s Feedback.

>>> Currently testing to account for the Chaos Armor change <<<

Man I hope I can figure this out once I get 80, it sounds complicated. I know once I get it down and get all the boons up I’ll be able to do it blindfolded. Gonna have to hit the Mists and practice.

Hi,

I really loving the idea of your build as in pretty much every MMO I’ve played a support class, rather than a damage class. However, I’m looking for some advice as there’s so many variations possible with your build, I’m somewhat failing to see the forest for the trees! :-)

Play-type: WvW and Guild-vs-Guild
Play-style: zergbusting and competitive game play
Guild: highly organised and competitive 15-20 men guild, ranked in top 5 of GvG ladder in the EU, that rolls out in the lakes with a view of taking on 30+ zergs
Build: pure support
Priorities: (1) AOE healing, (2) AOE regen, (3) Boon dispenser, (4) Survivability, (x) Damage – not of interest

In this context, what would you recommend for:
- Traits
- Abilities
- Gear
- Trinkets
- Runes / Sigils
- Food

Kind regards,

Marsares.

I’m just saying this to keep it up top for Chaos Archangel to reply to you. I would give my own suggestions but he’s the cleric armor expert around here so we’ll hope he reads your post.

Hey. Ty for the kind words!
Sorry, its been a busy weekend and havent been on a computer so Ima reply quickly fro my phone. The original build sounds like exactly what you want.

0/10/30/30/0

Dueling: Protected Mantras (VI)
Chaos: Illusionary Defense (IV) , Chaotic Dampening (X) or Bountiful Interruption (VII), Prismatic Understanding (XII)
Inspiration: Medics Feedback (I)(optional) or Glamour Mastery (II), Warden’s Feedback (VIII) (optional but highly recommended) , Restorative Mantras (X)

- 2x Superior Sigil of Battle / 1 Superior Sigil of Life (Needed to top off your heals to 3000)
- Superior Runes of Dwayna (reliable AoE perma-regeneration) or Runes of Altruism (15% more boon duration and reliable AoE Might/Fury)
- Chocolate Omnomberry Cremes (20% boon duration)
Clerics Armor and Magis trinkets. (max healing power with atleast 20% crt chance)

MoRecovery/MoPain/Veil/Signet of Inspiration – Mass Invisibility.

Edit: A lot of what I’m about to write is explained in the guide, but I figured a summary would be more convenient. The above mentioned setup should be exactly what you’re looking for, and I’ll explain based on your priority list:

1) Traits- Set you with full boon duration, full healing power, and additional 400 toughness – Protected Mantras - when you charge Mantras (Which will be constantly. Additionally, the 400 toughness should apply to your Phantasms aswell, though this means little in zerg situations). Protection is one of the most important buffs, so Prismatic Understanding is practically a must, especially if you have a thief on your team (Shadow Refuge before a battle). Preemptive Mass Invisibility will also give you a nice hefty amount of protection more often than not. Veil is optional, but you should definitely have two forms of stealth if you’re traiting Prismatic Understanding and I prefer Veil over Decoy because you can swing through the rift twice for a nice 6 seconds of stealth/boons, and its a combo field for Chaos Armor; best part is that you can do both of these while charging Mantras. Bountiful Interruption vs Chaotic Dampening is a tough choice. The cooldown difference is definitely noticeable, but Bountiful Interruption can give HUGE rewards. Then again, you could keep Chaotic Dampening decide between RNG-Might vs RNG-Protection (Bountinterupt vs PrismaUnderstand). Everything in Inspiration is pretty straightforward. I find Medic’s Feedback to be really useful in ZvZ fights, but Glamour Mastery is great both because it mitigates Veil’s stupidly long cooldown, and because when I’m NOT running Veil another glamour usually takes its place.

2) Mantra of Pain >> Mantra of Recovery >> Mantra of Pain will burst heal for 8-9k every 9 seconds. Since you’ll have constant high ticks of regen (over 3k every 10 secs) you’ll easily be healing for over 10k every 10 seconds. Mantra of Pain should be in CONSTANT use. You’re going to want to practice maintaining Chaos Armor for as long as possible, and it helps to have another glamour. Veil is good because not only does it allow you 6 boons, but you can channel Mantras and Phase Retreat while stealthed. See the “Boon Storm” for when you should use Signet of Inspiration, but if you ever find yourself with over 20+ seconds of protection, ignore those rules and pop that signet asap
Mantra of Recovery is important because it’s your prime source of spreading regeneration (If Runes of Dwayna). Try to stick near allies everytime you cast this, as you’ll be giving regen to nearby allies more reliably than your Phantasms would.

3-4) I hope you weren’t expecting to do much damage… Cuz ya likely won’t. The only time you can really burst is (assuming you have runes of altruism) when you have around 9 stacks of might, and fury, and even then its debatable whether it’ was worth it as in that time you could’ve been healing/protecting your allies in some way. Cleric’s gear, even with Magi’s trinkets, is lousy for damage. The upside is that with such healing power and toughness, you’ll be kitten hard to kill.

5) I HIGHLY recommend runes of Dwayna based on the request provided. It’s easily the most reliable way to spread regeneration. Sigil of Battle should definitely be in your arsenal, and I tend to carry two for the 6x Might (A nice 210 power boost, usually amplified by Might from allies) But it should be noted that two Sigils of Life will get your Mantraheals into the 3k mark much faster. Its a choice between offense and defense.

@Woljnir: Hey, feel free to shoot me a PM or hit me up in game if you ever have any questions. I know I’ve said this like… for the umpteenth time, but there WILL be a video soon, of the boon storm at least. (Anyone wanna help me with this? PM plz)

Chaos Archangel.5071:

Long and very detailed and thoughtful response

Thank you so much, really appreciate all the effort you put into that reply. Certainly gives me some food for thought and will be trying out a few variations on this. Will let you know what I ended up with! ;-)

Hey.. Finished up the editing.. and totally went over the 5000 character limit, jeez.
I’ll throw the last bit here. Hope ya have fun!

6) To be honest, I haven’t experimented much with food beyond Chocolate Omnomberry Cremes. But that 20% boon duration is glorious. With just the omnomberry Cremes and 30 in chaos, you have 50% boon duration. Enough to give a noticeable boost to how long your boons from skills that tick rapidly (Prismatic Understanding/Chaos Armor/Storm) last. But I know there are some nice alternative options as well, I’ve just yet to discover them.

Hope that helps!

Hey Chaos, tried to PM you but you’re full …
The build has changed from the original you posted; as a result, it doesn’t appear you’re taking advantage of the added stealth boons in the boon storm. Did you want to update that?

Ty man. Had no idea about the inbox thing.

Yeah. I’ve been looking over the guide and its gonna get another big update soon, a lot of things reworded and retested including incorporating Prismatic and Bountiful

Chaos Archangel.5071:

Hey.. Finished up the editing.. and totally went over the 5000 character limit, jeez.
I’ll throw the last bit here. Hope ya have fun!

6) To be honest, I haven’t experimented much with food beyond Chocolate Omnomberry Cremes. But that 20% boon duration is glorious. With just the omnomberry Cremes and 30 in chaos, you have 50% boon duration. Enough to give a noticeable boost to how long your boons from skills that tick rapidly (Prismatic Understanding/Chaos Armor/Storm) last. But I know there are some nice alternative options as well, I’ve just yet to discover them.

Hope that helps!

Yeah, about the chocolate cremes.

They are amazing for any boon duration for any class that has a boon build. I started using them on my healway guardian but also used them last week when I was trying your builds and was surprised you didn’t use them.

80% boon duration is glorious on healway guardian or support mesmer.

You know, I actually kinda stupidly threw the food info somewhere randomly in the guide where no one would see… because somehow that made sense at the time.

Thanks for pointing that out, man.

Hey,

I finally finsished the boon storm video ^__^. After many tehcnical difficulties that put all my video making to acomplete stop, I finally found out what the problem was and fixed it.
I planned to make a few minutes long video where i just ran over the boon storm in slow motion, but in the end this happened:

You can put the link in the boon storm section of this guide so people dont have to scroll down, or whatever you want to do with it, really!
I dont have a thumbmail yet, so if you have any ideas, you can send me a picture of your character or a skill or something, then please do so :P

-Alissah

Oh, and one more thing:

@Alissah-Nice job!

<——- Jawdrop’d.

I .. You.. OMG wow!

Edit: OK.. My mandible has resisted the pull of gravity again after those awesome 9 minutes. I’ll study the vid more when I’m not at work, seemed Fury wasn’t proccing properly (and it hurt my heart when you’d stealth & then reveal from Chaos Storm =[ )

But that? That just blew me away. That really was incredible, and definitely better editing than I could’ve done. I’m doing some heavy edits this weekend, so there may be some things improved over what was in the video but that was EXCELLENT. I’m so hype!

im so glad you liked it ^__^.
Yea, i actually just noticed i only have 4 runes of altruism :O And 2 water. I actually have 2 gear sets, 1 for damage and 1 clerics for this supporty stuff, but i used to use 2/2/2 boon duration runes, i guess i forgot xD

also note, if the video is missing any essential information, i can still put annotations, which are red text balloons in it!

:D

Alissah.9281:

im so glad you liked it ^__^.
Yea, i actually just noticed i only have 4 runes of altruism :O And 2 water. I actually have 2 gear sets, 1 for damage and 1 clerics for this supporty stuff, but i used to use 2/2/2 boon duration runes, i guess i forgot xD

also note, if the video is missing any essential information, i can still put annotations, which are red text balloons in it!

:D

Great video. I’m really really glad they’re finally buffing our support specs a little by little.

Whether people realize it or not chaos armor was in fact buffed overall.

Huh, which sigil would I want on which weapon? I feel like battle on both with life on the focus

Amazing video!

Btw, other than the chocolate omnomberry cream, which other consumable would you recommend to run alongside it?

Chaos armor just lost one of its use, but it did gain another which may be even more usefull…
before the patch you could actually use chaos armor for 4-8 seconds extra protection for signet of inspiration or for somewhat countering burst damage.
But now it actually counters sustained damage with the fixed blind procs + cripple, aswell as giving protection from the leap and blast finishers, so i guess overall youll get more protection if youre lucky ;D.

And about the support buffs, im really liking the shattered conditions from inspiration grandmaster. If you shatter alot you actually have a whole lot of aoe condition removal :o.

@AsteriskCGY.5931
The Chaos Maestro build uses battle on both and life on one, I do the same except I replace the life with fire. I use the same weapons from damage builds though, as I can’t bother getting the expensive stuff again :P

I thought the sigil of life was bugged and it had an internal cooldown andonly procs on crits? Don’t quote me on that though….

I had to chance to speak to someone who uses this build to great effect in WvW, and I’m gonna update it with their input. Shattered Conditions is turning out to be pretty incredible. This “Support-Shatter” concept seems to be growing in popularity. They basically ran

0/20/20/30/0

Adding Deceptive Evasion and swapping Warden’s Feedback for Shattered Conditions. Lots of clones shattering to give AoE Vigor/cleanse conditions plus mantra heals & boon storm. It ends up being pretty potent in small group fights.

As far as I could tell, I’ve had no problems with Sigil of Life… but I wasn’t paying it much mind.

@Marsares: Havent experimented much beyond chocolate omnomberry, but I know of atleast 2 other foods that’d be nice. For damage, Sharpening Stones would be helpful, Theres a food that gives “Might on Dodge,” and Lemongrass Poultry Soup for better condition mitigation to stay alive in big battles.

Edit: Speaking of updates, I’ve been slacking a bit. -_- Weekends have been filled with parties, which is kinda unusual for me.

UPDATED 7/30/13

- Various informational tweaks across the board to steer the guide more towards a “How to craft your own Mesmer support build”
- Added a WvW version (Thanks Psychidelic Pineapples!)
- Further explained Protection application & Prismatic Understanding
- Video of a boon storm is up! (You rock Alissah!)

Few minor tweaks to come.

Best mesmer support build I’ve seen.

I have made a variation to the Chaos Maestro build to support my World vs. World team but still be able to do some damage to enemy clumps. Here is the build:

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/mesmer/?4.3|6.1k.h6|c.1k.h6.d.1k.a2|1k.71i.1k.b1i.1k.71i.1g.71i.1g.71i.1g.b1i|1a.64.2v.d1b.1a.9a.2v.d1a.21l.d1b.1a.0|0.f2.u3ac.p3a.0|40.7|32.3b.3d.3m.3q|e

Would this variation be able to fulfill the supportive role the Chaos Maestro provides and deal a good amount of damage to support my team offensively as well? Thanks.

Downopo.6425:

I have made a variation to the Chaos Maestro build to support my World vs. World team but still be able to do some damage to enemy clumps. Here is the build:

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/mesmer/?4.3|6.1k.h6|c.1k.h6.d.1k.a2|1k.71i.1k.b1i.1k.71i.1g.71i.1g.71i.1g.b1i|1a.64.2v.d1b.1a.9a.2v.d1a.21l.d1b.1a.0|0.f2.u3ac.p3a.0|40.7|32.3b.3d.3m.3q|e

Would this variation be able to fulfill the supportive role the Chaos Maestro provides and deal a good amount of damage to support my team offensively as well? Thanks.

Good build – specs are similar to the paladin support mesmer in my signature, also trading bountiful interruption for prismatic understanding which is a popular choice due to the great defensive boons you can get from stealth. That said, you don’t have many stealth options in the build (only veil). So that might hamper your ability to really take advantage of PU.

skcamow.3527:

Downopo.6425:

I have made a variation to the Chaos Maestro build to support my World vs. World team but still be able to do some damage to enemy clumps. Here is the build:

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/mesmer/?4.3|6.1k.h6|c.1k.h6.d.1k.a2|1k.71i.1k.b1i.1k.71i.1g.71i.1g.71i.1g.b1i|1a.64.2v.d1b.1a.9a.2v.d1a.21l.d1b.1a.0|0.f2.u3ac.p3a.0|40.7|32.3b.3d.3m.3q|e

Would this variation be able to fulfill the supportive role the Chaos Maestro provides and deal a good amount of damage to support my team offensively as well? Thanks.

Good build – specs are similar to the paladin support mesmer in my signature, also trading bountiful interruption for prismatic understanding which is a popular choice due to the great defensive boons you can get from stealth. That said, you don’t have many stealth options in the build (only veil). So that might hamper your ability to really take advantage of PU.

The thing is, i don’t need to stealth with this build because i run with a group of people. Plus, I need to use Time Warp witch is apart of the support role i play in my guild. But thank you for the reply!

Downopo.6425:

skcamow.3527:

Downopo.6425:

I have made a variation to the Chaos Maestro build to support my World vs. World team but still be able to do some damage to enemy clumps. Here is the build:

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/mesmer/?4.3|6.1k.h6|c.1k.h6.d.1k.a2|1k.71i.1k.b1i.1k.71i.1g.71i.1g.71i.1g.b1i|1a.64.2v.d1b.1a.9a.2v.d1a.21l.d1b.1a.0|0.f2.u3ac.p3a.0|40.7|32.3b.3d.3m.3q|e

Would this variation be able to fulfill the supportive role the Chaos Maestro provides and deal a good amount of damage to support my team offensively as well? Thanks.

Good build – specs are similar to the paladin support mesmer in my signature, also trading bountiful interruption for prismatic understanding which is a popular choice due to the great defensive boons you can get from stealth. That said, you don’t have many stealth options in the build (only veil). So that might hamper your ability to really take advantage of PU.

The thing is, i don’t need to stealth with this build because i run with a group of people. Plus, I need to use Time Warp witch is apart of the support role i play in my guild. But thank you for the reply!

Wait, with charismatic understanding only apply to me or does it apply to allies around me too, and the same with the boons.

Downopo.6425:

skcamow.3527:

Downopo.6425:

I have made a variation to the Chaos Maestro build to support my World vs. World team but still be able to do some damage to enemy clumps. Here is the build:

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/mesmer/?4.3|6.1k.h6|c.1k.h6.d.1k.a2|1k.71i.1k.b1i.1k.71i.1g.71i.1g.71i.1g.b1i|1a.64.2v.d1b.1a.9a.2v.d1a.21l.d1b.1a.0|0.f2.u3ac.p3a.0|40.7|32.3b.3d.3m.3q|e

Would this variation be able to fulfill the supportive role the Chaos Maestro provides and deal a good amount of damage to support my team offensively as well? Thanks.

Good build – specs are similar to the paladin support mesmer in my signature, also trading bountiful interruption for prismatic understanding which is a popular choice due to the great defensive boons you can get from stealth. That said, you don’t have many stealth options in the build (only veil). So that might hamper your ability to really take advantage of PU.

The thing is, i don’t need to stealth with this build because i run with a group of people. Plus, I need to use Time Warp witch is apart of the support role i play in my guild. But thank you for the reply!

In your build you are using prismatic understanding, which only is useful when you can stealth often. Are you saying you get your stealth (and use of this trait) mainly from your group?

skcamow.3527:

Downopo.6425:

skcamow.3527:

Downopo.6425:

I have made a variation to the Chaos Maestro build to support my World vs. World team but still be able to do some damage to enemy clumps. Here is the build:

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/mesmer/?4.3|6.1k.h6|c.1k.h6.d.1k.a2|1k.71i.1k.b1i.1k.71i.1g.71i.1g.71i.1g.b1i|1a.64.2v.d1b.1a.9a.2v.d1a.21l.d1b.1a.0|0.f2.u3ac.p3a.0|40.7|32.3b.3d.3m.3q|e

Would this variation be able to fulfill the supportive role the Chaos Maestro provides and deal a good amount of damage to support my team offensively as well? Thanks.

Good build – specs are similar to the paladin support mesmer in my signature, also trading bountiful interruption for prismatic understanding which is a popular choice due to the great defensive boons you can get from stealth. That said, you don’t have many stealth options in the build (only veil). So that might hamper your ability to really take advantage of PU.

The thing is, i don’t need to stealth with this build because i run with a group of people. Plus, I need to use Time Warp witch is apart of the support role i play in my guild. But thank you for the reply!

In your build you are using prismatic understanding, which only is useful when you can stealth often. Are you saying you get your stealth (and use of this trait) mainly from your group?

Yes. Since I am one of the 2 mesmers in my guild i need to play multiple roles. While i play some roles another mesmer plays others.

@Downpopo: Yeah, that looks more similar to Skcamow’s Paladin Mesmer. It looks solid, but I’d probably drop the Mantra heals in favor of a traited focus. Mantra of Recovery alone isn’t really worth taking Restorative Mantras for and I think the added cooldown and reflect abilities on focus would serve you better.

… Normally I’d advise against taking a cooldown trait if you’re only taking one skill (Manipulations) but Chaos Minor traits are pretty lousy anyways, and I’d likely do the same for Blink alone.

I’ve actually been able to nab anywhere from 5 – 20 seconds of Protection from Veil alone.. and it really makes charging Mantras smooth with 6 secs of invisibility, so I actually would consier taking it with Prismatic Understanding.. but no, the trait itself does not buff your allies nor does it increase their stealth time, its purely for you.. and Signet of Inspiration (Only the Inspiration line has ally-affecting traits)

Chaos Archangel.5071:

@Downpopo: Yeah, that looks more similar to Skcamow’s Paladin Mesmer. It looks solid, but I’d probably drop the Mantra heals in favor of a traited focus. Mantra of Recovery alone isn’t really worth taking Restorative Mantras for and I think the added cooldown and reflect abilities on focus would serve you better.

… Normally I’d advise against taking a cooldown trait if you’re only taking one skill (Manipulations) but Chaos Minor traits are pretty lousy anyways, and I’d likely do the same for Blink alone.

I’ve actually been able to nab anywhere from 5 – 20 seconds of Protection from Veil alone.. and it really makes charging Mantras smooth with 6 secs of invisibility, so I actually would consier taking it with Prismatic Understanding.. but no, the trait itself does not buff your allies nor does it increase their stealth time, its purely for you.. and Signet of Inspiration (Only the Inspiration line has ally-affecting traits)

Ok. Thanks so much!

Here is my updated version of my edited version of this build…

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/mesmer/?4.3|6.1k.h8|c.1k.h6.d.1k.h8|1k.71i.1k.b1i.1k.71i.1g.71i.1g.71i.1g.b1i|41l.0.2v.d1c.31l.0.2v.d1a.21l.d1b.2v.d1b|0.f2.u3ac.p3a.0|40.7|32.3g.3b.3d.3q|e

Looks good dude.

Except, Sigils of Life and Perception (or any two different “On-Kill” sigils) won’t work together if I’m not mistaken.

Other than that, the build looks solid, you may be switching out Vigorous Revelations depending on the situation.

Hey Chaos, can’t respond to your PM – your inbox is full.
What better reason to bump this thread anyway.

Ty man. Cleared up the box.. Hey does anyone know why it censors Staff 5?

Staff…. 5…

Edit: OK, it doesn’t censor that here, but in the build it does for some reason. (Under the boon storm notation)

As a quick update, it seems the more I explore the more I discover that there is quite a bit of variety to the types of support builds we can create. I used to think Sword/Focus+Staff was the most optional for a support build but I’ve been experimenting with:

Sword/Focus+Staff
Sword/Focus+Greatsword
Sword/Focus+Scepter/Torch
Scepter/Torch+Staff

And each combination yields its own interesting and different way of providing very good boon support. Mix in glamours/utility phantasms/manipulations, different runes, and our Inspiration traits and we’ve a whole mix of interesting different support combinations; few of which require too much of a damage sacrifice.

Going to make another big edit to the guide soon to accommodate the new info gathered.

Hey. I’ve been working on a condition build variation.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgEQNAsdWl4zipHSTgGb9IhJFBH5nekcnPdUKue2B-jkCBIOCi0CgkIBKPqIasFhFRjVrbR1aGYKUAeEBzrYR1A-w

I haven’t had a chance to test it out, but I figured I’d give people a chance to tell me not to waste my time

TooBz.3065:

Hey. I’ve been working on a condition build variation.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgEQNAsdWl4zipHSTgGb9IhJFBH5nekcnPdUKue2B-jkCBIOCi0CgkIBKPqIasFhFRjVrbR1aGYKUAeEBzrYR1A-w

I haven’t had a chance to test it out, but I figured I’d give people a chance to tell me not to waste my time

That actually looks pretty good, but I’d highly recommend dropping Chaotic Dampening(gasp!) in favor of Bountiful Interruption. B.Interrupt is just too good for a support build to pass up, and can easily shoot you up into the 25 stacks of might (even though you can already maintain around 10-12 stacks on your own)

The best thing about this is that Might affects condition damage too. So you and all your clones will not only be proccing all kinds of might/fury, but doing loads of condition damage as well.

Also, Mantra of Pain may serve better than Blink. It’d increase your healing output dramatically… And I hate saying that because I love Blink with all my heart. =[

Also, I feel Shattered Conditions is more of a situational skill that’s good to swap to when the time calls for it. Its a good ability, but just consider keeping Warden’s Feedback for most situations, and switching to Shattered Conditions, Medic’s Feedback, or Restorative Illusions for special cases. That’s just my personal opinion though.

Let me know how it works out, looks pretty promising.

I’m not sure if you’re a mesmer without blink. But I’ll give it a try.

Thanks for the tips.

I know, I went through Blink withdrawals when I dropped it.

Stage 1, Pride: You start to pity those people who have to live their lives doing that “walking/running” thing.

Stage 2 Adjustment: You try to compensate with iLeap and Phase Retreat, iLeap becomes pleasantly surprising (premptively sending out a clone so you have 5 seconds of a stunbreak) while Phase Retreat starts to dissapoint (no stunbreak =[ )

Stage 3 Longing: You switch back to Blink, and it feels soooo good. Till you realize you actually really enjoyed all that extra healing.

Sta- … Oh wait. Why not just keep Blink and swap out Mantra of Resolve? You can switch it back in whenever you feel you’ll need it.

Lol. Yeah, I’ve been playing a bit of PvP lately, so I’m a little condition clear happy (it stacks like crazy in there). I’ll just play around between those and see what fits best.

(if I just exchange my sword for a wet noodle, maybe I won’t bleed so much)

Chaos Archangel.5071:

TooBz.3065:

Hey. I’ve been working on a condition build variation.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgEQNAsdWl4zipHSTgGb9IhJFBH5nekcnPdUKue2B-jkCBIOCi0CgkIBKPqIasFhFRjVrbR1aGYKUAeEBzrYR1A-w

I haven’t had a chance to test it out, but I figured I’d give people a chance to tell me not to waste my time

That actually looks pretty good, but I’d highly recommend dropping Chaotic Dampening(gasp!) in favor of Bountiful Interruption. B.Interrupt is just too good for a support build to pass up, and can easily shoot you up into the 25 stacks of might (even though you can already maintain around 10-12 stacks on your own)

Say it isn’t so, no chaotic dampening! It’s such a hard decision but I personally have found I can’t live without it in a support build. It takes too long between staff CD’s. With chaotic dampening, you can get 2 solid chaos storms in between signet pops which helps buff boon duration in between them. Speaking of boon duration, there isn’t much in this build and I would just throw on omnomberry cream to handle that. It would get you a decent 55% duration.

A few concerns I noticed:

• The condition output capability in the build isn’t very high. You have staff clones and debilitating dissipation, and even then you don’t have an easy way to get 3 quick clones out to apply the conditions (even more reason to grab chaotic dampening for quicker phase retreat clones). Sw/F isn’t going to do much condition-wise as you don’t have sharper images. If damage is a distant secondary to support in this build, it may not be that big of a deal to you.
• Condition duration is non-existent (except confusion trait).
• There is low condition damage built in. if you add tuning crystals that gets you close to 1100 but could probably go higher. You do have some nice healing power – maybe you could switch some pieces around to get the condition damage major on a couple. To Chaos’ point, might will indeed increase that number dramatically.

All that said, I may be crazy – another reference for a build like this is Fay’s Panacea and she has a guide here: http://www.destinysedge.net/fay/mesmer/panacea.html
It’s traited almost identical to yours and she seems to have good experience with it.

I know. I felt like I committed a mortal sin when I stopped taking Chaotic Dampening, but it turns out that in between times, I’m usually charging Mantras (MoPain starts hitting pretty hard when you’re at 15 stacks of might and fury) anyway, so I didn’t need it as much as I thought.

Its the same might stacks that should make his condition damage pretty decent. In a fight, they’ll always have at least an extra 350 condition damage. (InspireSignet, Battle Sigils, Altruism Runes = Perma 10 might stacks)

And good catch on the sword, definitely didn’t see that. Scepter would be a better bet with the torment block and confusing images.

I once spoke to someone about a 0/15/20/15/20 Rabid/Rampager variant of the build. Seemed to work pretty good too.