Guild Wars 2

Hi guys!

I want a good condition build on my mesmer with staff/scepter torch!
For PvE! Dungeon and worldbosses

any good idea’s?

dont know where to start :$

Thanks

For PvP, PvE or WvW?

Mostly PvE! i like to run dungeons and worldbosses

I don’t play much PvE but I know that no one really use condition builds for PVE unless you solo mobs and even then it’s not a very good idea. They all use berzerker gear and sw/sw +sw/focus if i recall correctly. The staff phantasm do hit pretty good with high amounts of conditions world bosses get so maybe you it could be a think if you went power. The reason for condition builds being a bad idea is the 25 stack cap which limits the damage you can do and if someone else do condition dmg you share the dmg pool.

I did try a MtD build (condition shatter mTd stands for Maim the Disillussioned a master trait) in PVE and it was pretty fun but I think power phantasm is more effective. If you do want to play condition anyway I suggest you look for MtD threads on the forum. Found this from frifox in another thread (non MtD): http://de.gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQFAWlknpBtVoxTNUrNiuxY6H64AU2zPlMgdB-TxRGABAcBAUS5XuPAgEV/hNdAls/QVKBJFAMTjA-e

Do conditions even work on world bosses?

Clownmug.8357:

Do conditions even work on world bosses?

Even if they do it’s a really bad idea since it’s 25 stacks shared between everyone doing condition damage :/

I only really want to play with staff/scepter torch! i dont care if it is a condition build or power build ;p. i only want to know how to build my mesmer then

Those weapons together are optimal for condition builds and not very good for power builds, so I suggest you either play condition in PVE and ignore that it’s not an optimal build OR you get some other weapons and play a power build.

If you want to go condition you can try the builds I mentioned above. You won’t find many condition PVE builds, so look for pvp condition builds. A good one is also Napalm Cat 2.0, google it, it uses cheap runes too and it’s very strong in duels and small skirmish in WvW, quite forgiving if you’re new to mesmering.

I googled it for you:

Napalm Cat 2.0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5qHuPoY3W0
http://de.gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQNArfWl0npRtlpxBNcrNyqxY6W2ZlTtUpvI7AA-TViAABJcgAgZ/BAOEAyoPIMlfnq+zGPBA2UCy9JAIAACghO0hO0hO0m5Qn5Qn5QLFAETjA-w

MtD build
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAsQEXbi15k

jenzie.4083:

Those weapons together are optimal for condition builds and not very good for power builds, so I suggest you either play condition in PVE and ignore that it’s not an optimal build OR you get some other weapons and play a power build.

If you want to go condition you can try the builds I mentioned above. You won’t find many condition PVE builds, so look for pvp condition builds. A good one is also Napalm Cat 2.0, google it, it uses cheap runes too and it’s very strong in duels and small skirmish in WvW, quite forgiving if you’re new to mesmering.

I googled it for you:

Napalm Cat 2.0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5qHuPoY3W0
http://de.gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQNArfWl0npRtlpxBNcrNyqxY6W2ZlTtUpvI7AA-TViAABJcgAgZ/BAOEAyoPIMlfnq+zGPBA2UCy9JAIAACghO0hO0hO0m5Qn5Qn5QLFAETjA-w

MtD build
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAsQEXbi15k

Thanks! This build looks really fun gonna try it! Do you know a good build for PvE then?

Saint Plox.2497:

jenzie.4083:

Those weapons together are optimal for condition builds and not very good for power builds, so I suggest you either play condition in PVE and ignore that it’s not an optimal build OR you get some other weapons and play a power build.

If you want to go condition you can try the builds I mentioned above. You won’t find many condition PVE builds, so look for pvp condition builds. A good one is also Napalm Cat 2.0, google it, it uses cheap runes too and it’s very strong in duels and small skirmish in WvW, quite forgiving if you’re new to mesmering.

I googled it for you:

Napalm Cat 2.0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5qHuPoY3W0
http://de.gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQNArfWl0npRtlpxBNcrNyqxY6W2ZlTtUpvI7AA-TViAABJcgAgZ/BAOEAyoPIMlfnq+zGPBA2UCy9JAIAACghO0hO0hO0m5Qn5Qn5QLFAETjA-w

MtD build
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAsQEXbi15k

Thanks! This build looks really fun gonna try it! Do you know a good build for PvE then?

Just so you’re aware of what you’re doing, since nobody has really flat out said it yet, I will.

If you are intending on doing open world content (non-world bosses), condition builds are non-optimal, but fine; safe and slow. If you are doing world bosses…they’re pretty awful, because conditions are capped on the bosses from the billions of conditions everyone is throwing at them, and you’ll literally do close to zero damage.

If you are intending on soloing dungeons, conditions are actually optimal in many situations. On the other hand, if you intend on doing dungeons in a party, taking a condition mesmer is literally worse than taking nobody at all. If you attempt to run a condition build in a dungeon party, just keep in mind that you are absolutely dragging your team down.

If you PUG dungeons, be prepared for some massive grief.

Saint Plox.2497:

jenzie.4083:

Those weapons together are optimal for condition builds and not very good for power builds, so I suggest you either play condition in PVE and ignore that it’s not an optimal build OR you get some other weapons and play a power build.

If you want to go condition you can try the builds I mentioned above. You won’t find many condition PVE builds, so look for pvp condition builds. A good one is also Napalm Cat 2.0, google it, it uses cheap runes too and it’s very strong in duels and small skirmish in WvW, quite forgiving if you’re new to mesmering.

I googled it for you:

Napalm Cat 2.0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5qHuPoY3W0
http://de.gw2skills.net/editor/?fhAQNArfWl0npRtlpxBNcrNyqxY6W2ZlTtUpvI7AA-TViAABJcgAgZ/BAOEAyoPIMlfnq+zGPBA2UCy9JAIAACghO0hO0hO0m5Qn5Qn5QLFAETjA-w

MtD build
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAsQEXbi15k

Thanks! This build looks really fun gonna try it! Do you know a good build for PvE then?

There are basically no PVE condition builds for the reasons both I and Fay explained. A enemy can have a limit of 25 stacks of each condition. That means if you are two in a group who apply conditions you can only apply roughly half of 25, depending on fast you can apply them. So 25 stacks of bleeds, 25 of torment one exception though and that is burning which stacks in duration. Not only condition builds add conditions, so maybe a power ranger adds bleeds too, only thing is he have very little condition damage AND take up room that YOUR powerful bleeds should use. So in reality you maybe add 10 bleed to an enemy, which sucks, also on thrashmobs there arent any time for adding bleeds, you need to be fast.
That’s why condition builds suck kitten in PVE and also the reason why there aren’t many condition builds for PVE. All this apply to group play, so if you solo World bosses and Dungeons use a condition build.

TL;DR There aren’t any PVE condition builds because they suck and no one will have you in their party.