Guild Wars 2

What would it be?

Personally, I’d go for something like:

Visions of Inspiration 50s CD
Shatter clones to heal in an 240r AoE. (About 900 per clone, with some decent healing power scaling)

I want more control and trickery. Hit F5 to grant your enemy a wet noodle. He cannot drop the bundle for 5 seconds.

F5 – detect all invisibles around clones

I’d agree with that, AE heal. Seems the most logical options as we got power damage, condi damage, control and personal defence already.

Can I just have it change all phantoms and clones targets to my current target instead of shattering?

If not then have it be a boon Condi swap like at. One boon to you and one Condi to them with damage multipliers for each remaining boon and or condition on you or the target.

WTF is this 40s cd
All your enemy skills fail and go on a 20s cd, effect lasts for 5s. Including autoattacks.

Explosion All illusions shatter where they stand and knockback any target within 240 radius of each illusion. Base zero damage, only physical ragdoll effect. Base CD = 60s.

Can synergise with interrupt traits such as halting strike.

Knockback would be fun but ill take 1sec of stealth per illusion shattered.

ooo this is fun~ how about a immobilize or cripple shatter <3 1 sec/per clone. We could use a little bit more hard CC… Tho the knock back is very much to my likeing.

But my favs I very much like are the heal shatter and invis shatters <3

Yeah, I’d love any form of crowd control / physical ragdolling shatter.

So pulls, knockbacks and so on – just not sure whether it should be centred on the mesmer, or centered on each illusion.

Pull (Implosion) would be cool (like spear #5 vortex), but only problem is what do you follow it up with? Unless you specifically take mirror images to do a pull+mindwrack, but in most cases it seems push/knockback could be more useful.

I dunno, I just want to see more flinging targets around the screen, like into the void, iwave, vortex…

Ramp Up
30s CD

Your next shatter within 20 seconds deals 1.5/2/3 times the normal effect (based on how many clones shattered).

Mind Wrack deals more damage.
Confusing Cry deals more damage and stacks more confusion stacks.
Diversion has increased daze duration.
Distortion has increased distortion duration.

None of these proposed skills are Mesmer-ey at all. Sometimes it’s best to go back to the classics.

Stolen Speed:
Nearby foes activate skills 50% slower while the caster gains 3 seconds of quickness for each affected foe (max 5). Cooldown: 20s

RIP Fast Casting; gone but not forgotten. ;_;

F5 Visions of Life (75s CD)

Shatter your illusions to apply Lifehack debuff to foes.

Number of Targets: 5
Radius: 240
Range: 1,200
Duration: 2s per illusion

50% damage dealt to enemies inflicted with Lifehack debuff will heal the mesmer (source of debuff).

I agree another hard CC would be nice. Following the psychic/mental magic that mesmers deal with, I’m kind of borrowing the priest skill from WoW, but what about a psychic scream type deal?

Illusionary Horror? Give it a minute-long CD. “Shatter your clones on the enemy, each clone sends the target away in fear for 1 second.”

I don’t think it should be AoE. It’s whomever each clone is targeting. That way it wouldn’t be too overpowered. Plus, clones can be dodged.

F5 (2yr CD)

Shatter all illusions, Anet redistributes almost the entirety of it’s resources away from it’s Awful PvE, Living Story content, and invests it’s Devs into Mesmer bug fixes, trait improvements, and utility changes, with new WvW/PvP changes to play it in.

Recharge

Reduce the recharge of all your skills based on the amount of clones shattered:
1 Clone shattered : 15%
2 Clones shattered : 30%
3 Clones shattered : 45%
(Combined with IP, 4 clones : 60%)

So for example; You cast chaos storm, it’s on a 35 seconds recharge and you wait till it goes to 30 seconds till you cast F5, it’s cooldown will drop to 30 × 0,4 = 12 seconds.

Though I don’t really know if this is possible to program so I wouldn’t mind it reducing the cooldown by 60% based on the full cooldown no matter what cooldown the skill is on. ( so if it would be 30 seconds cooldown, it would drop to 35×0,6 = 21, 30-21 = 9 seconds CD left)

Something that prevents boon/stealth application to the target for 1.5 seconds/clone and is able to stack in duration, so with 3 clones + IP it’s 6 seconds. Helps against thieves and could make some fun plays. 60 sec CD ofc. Or incoming boons get transfered to you.

Something (x s cooldown)
Shatter target clone and do something.

I don’t even care what it would do. I just want something that lets me shatter 1 clone of my choosing, preferably with a little box that lists my active clones and their health and lets me target them.

Edit: actually..
Kill clone (10s cooldown)
Kill target clone (procs on-kill effects/doesn’t count as a shatter).

DeathReign.7821:

Ramp Up
30s CD

Your next shatter within 20 seconds deals 1.5/2/3 times the normal effect (based on how many clones shattered).

Mind Wrack deals more damage.
Confusing Cry deals more damage and stacks more confusion stacks.
Diversion has increased daze duration.
Distortion has increased distortion duration.

Could you imagine that. 3 x mindwrack damage. We would 1 shot any class in the game hahaha

F5 – Shatter Phantasm based on Shatter Hex
Shatter Only Phantasm, doing damage and add a unique effect. 30sec cd

Warden – Pull up to 5 foes to the phantasm’s location, damaging and crippling, radius 240
Berserker – Phantasm erupts removing 1 boon from enemies and granting might to allies, radius 240
Mage – Creates a fire field causing burning, duration 5s, radius 240
Duelist – Stun up to 3 foes, 2s stun, area 240
Swordsman – daze foes and give Fury to allies, area 240
Warlock – create a small Chaos Storm, area 240
Mariner – Damage all enemies, radius 240
Whaler – Confuse all nearby enemies, radius 240
Defender – Create a light field, blinding enemies, radius 240, duration 5s
Disenchanter – Remove 2 conditions and 2 boons from enemies, radius 240

-Phantasms are supposed to be living “hexes” and there is all kinds of different hexes in GW1. They are supposed to live long enough to do their job and actually be a threat. But currently, since there is so much AOE in the game, the enemy doesn’t even worry about phantasm anymore. “All the AOE will take care of them, so why even bother with them.”

So here’s an idea to try and make the enemy take note. Either the enemy deals with the phantasm or he ignores it. If he ignores it, the Mesmer has control. Allow the phantasm do its thing and spawn more phantasms (for a bigger effect) or “Shatter Phantasm” for an even more powerful effect.

The “effects” I came up with are not in stone, so anyone has a better suggestion?

SlimChance.6593:

F5 – Shatter Phantasm based on Shatter Hex
Shatter Only Phantasm at its current location, doing damage and add a unique effect. 30sec cd
…

This is brilliant, I really like it.

Curunen.8729:

SlimChance.6593:

F5 – Shatter Phantasm based on Shatter Hex
Shatter Only Phantasm at its current location, doing damage and add a unique effect. 30sec cd
…

This is brilliant, I really like it.

+1

SlimChance, this wasn’t even a contest and you just won it somehow.

I like the ideas of an ability that reduces our cooldowns and potential for some fear application. (I KNOW it doesn’t fit us mechanically, but thematically.. fear is a frickin’ mental condition as much as confusion! )

You mean I didn’t win anything? wt…

Thanks guys. Too bad it will never happen. I doubt ANet even reads this.

I hear what your saying Chaos, but I still think “chill” fits us better than fear. At least the increased cool down part.

Since we’re dreaming anyway. ANet!! Give Mesmer’s more quickness!!!!!!! You took confusion away for us, give us back fast casting!!!!!!!

Please

The problem with that would be that it has way too many effects. It’s basically a hundred shatters in one due to the combinations possible. Yes it sounds awesome to me, but the devs would never go for it.

Illusion of Wayne Brady:

Clones hop into an old Cadillac and shoot out the windows at enemies for 20 seconds. 1 gun per clone in the pink illusionary pimpmobile. 120 second cool down that’s shortened to 60 seconds when you harvest “plants.”

Instead of a shatter! We make portal a class mechanic on F5.

Or

We make a mini portal only the caster can use. (maybe one other person?) with a shorter c/d and shorter range. Like 60 sec base c/d (reduceable via illusion tree) and 2000 range.

What about F5 on like 120s CD that would swap you places with your opponent.

I’d actually go with a shatter that changed based on the number of clones. Something like:
1 clone – pull enemies to the clone and swap places (with the clone).
2 clones – knockback + blast finisher.
3 clones – waterfield(or any field, tbh) + root around the clones (or maybe in the area between them, were they not too far apart).
4 clones (ip) – 30-50% reduced damage F1 or F2 (reduced confusion stacks instead, though this would be a pretty big giveaway) + stealth – trying to make it as if the mesmer himself was a clone.

Carighan.6758:

The problem with that would be that it has way too many effects. It’s basically a hundred shatters in one due to the combinations possible. Yes it sounds awesome to me, but the devs would never go for it.

I really like the Shatter Phantasm idea as well but i have to agree with so many different effects it would be a balancing nightmare. But if they reduce the effects to only 2 for example by splitting between range and melee phantasm i can see it working. But non of the effects should include stuns or daze in my opinion. We got that already covered with F3 and traits.

i like the idea of, shattered clones run to you doing a blast finisher and dealing aoe random effects like on chaos storm for example

would fit in well

or one that creates a clone of each person hit
1 clone 1 target
2 clones 2 targets
3 clones 3 targets

could be used well with good clone positioning

Not so Illusionary Spike
CD: 60
All your illusions rush to targeted downed enemy and attempt to spike. If target rallies your clones explode putting them in downed state again. If target is spiked then all their guildies and party members within 1200 radius shatter and die aswell.

Empathy: 60 sec cd
Shatter clones and phantasms aoe shatter adding a debuff to an enemy that reflects all damage done by them at themselves and heal their target for the amount of damage done to themselves (i.e. a thief has debuff and tries to backstab Mesmer with 5k hp left for 10k dmg the thief would take 10k damage and the Mesmer would be healed for 10k health). Effect lasts 2 sec per clone.

Since F5 is the key to refresh on Windows…naturally the F5 shatter should refresh all for the Mesmer – all F1-F4 shatters, weapons, heal, utilities, and ultimate CDs~

Make it on a 240 second CD for this F5 shatter for all I care~ >:D

F5 – GG

The Mesmer himself detonates, destroying everything in a 10km radius.

Why does this thread not have 10 pages?

Inspiration
75s cooldown
Each clone copies all its boons and conditions to allies/enemies respectively within a radius of 360.

Technical notes: There is a slight delay between shatters and other illusions are prioritised as targets. Conditions can also be transferred to other illusions (Though not you, even if you have IP).

I really like narwahl’s suggestion of bringing back stolen speed. Instead of inventing some new mechanic, just have it do 1,2,3,(4ip) seconds of chill on target and haste on the mesmer.

-Sizzap