Guild Wars 2

Good morning
This is my current mantra build im running. It differs greatly i think from the 30/30/0/0/10. And there are a few reasons for that, which i will go into.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQJAsfl0zyoHRTkGbNJiJFDXvhqA2RqQrV6xsdhyGA

The 30 in dueling is kind of a no brainer. I wanted deceptive evasion, and the goal of any mantra buid, the +4% while having a mantra readied. Now the thing that i didnt really think was neccesary, was the number of stacks i needed in each mantra. It would have been nice to go all the way in domination but i cannot, for one simple reason.

To me the 20 in chaos is neccesary for me to keep 100% uptime on swiftness. I’m not going to go one some rant about mesmers and swiftness. I have an engineer, a gaurdian, and a thief, and everyone pays a price for speed. But if im going to invest in the centaur runes, then i might as well get my up time to 100%.

Now i have tossed around the idea of using boon duration food. I have a 400 chef, but im not sold on the idea. One of the reasons im not sold is i really like the safe fall ability from the 10 slot in chaos as well. I love being mobile, and part of that to me is not worrying (as much) about dying when i fall.

I do feel like i make up for the lack of power, with power food. But, i also think i could use the boon duration food, so im somewhat torn there. On the training dummy the diference in the damage between my +100 power and +300 power wasnt all that much.

So any advice or ideas would be helpful. Just remmeber i am trying for a mantra build, so any advice saying “don’t go mantra” isnt’t really helping. And i need at least +20% boon duration.

Ive tried a lot of specs on the mesmer. And so far this is my favorite.

I’ve grown a love for Mantra builds, and I see a couple interesting concepts here, how do you like the +25% damage when each mantra is ready and you have 3 clones out?

Why torch, and whats your secondary weapon?

And, I’m guessing this is for PvE? Even so, I wouldn’t spend 20 points on traits just for the sake of swiftness, swiftness is more of a convenience than necessity. And what kind of gear do you plan to use. Deceptive Evasion is far more useful when you maintain Vigor, but with such a low crit chance you won’t really benefit from Critical Infusion.

Also, shattering seems counter-productive here if you wanna maintain your damage boost, I’d replace Mental Torment with Empowering Illusions.

On a side note, does anyone know if your traited effects (Specifically Empowered Illusions/ Empowering Mantras) also affect Phantasm damage?

Ive been using it in WvW.
Let me try to answer your questions in order
The damage is the reason i’m using this build. I was running full confusion for awhile, and it just didn’t do it for me. I’m not saying it’s bad but not for me. The damage is definitly nice.

I use torch as a secondary weapon becuase i love the stealth honestly. Ive heard people say it’s a get away for bad players, but thats fine for me :P i still get away when i get in to deep.

Im running full zerker gear. And i just cant do WvW without the swiftness. I feel like a turtle.

With 30pts in deuling and my current gear im at about 40% crit. But i need to switch out a few more peices.

As for shattering. Does the +9% damage from each active clone affect the shatter damage? i assumed it did. But if not then yes ill switch. I was kind of torn on if should even shatter or not, since im more defensive not shattering, and do more damage.

Ill test that phatasm stuff right now!
Edit: Dosent seem to help the phatasm damage. At least on the target dummy.

Im running full zerker gear. And i just cant do WvW without the swiftness. I feel like a turtle.

I don’t get why you need boon duration. With Mantra of heal and Centaur runes, you should be getting 100% uptime. The runes will proc on both the discharge and the charge of the Mantra. Just remember there’s a 10s internal cooldown on the proc.

As for shattering. Does the +9% damage from each active clone affect the shatter damage? i assumed it did.

Yes.

Sidenote: the damage output with Scholar runes is pretty obscene. By obscene I mean fun, and you, too, can scratch your head at people who think Mantra of Pain is underpowered.

The centaur runes dont proc off each cast of mantra of heal. Its very inconsistent and i don’t know why. I was going to submit as a bug, but it seemed so minor i doubt they would care. It really bugs me though.

Make sure you wait the 10s ICD.

Just tested it over and over and over again. Cus this would give me alot more flexibility. But it is inconsistent. I even put 10 points in chaos to make the swiftness 12 seconds so i knew i was waiting the 10 seconds. It still only goes off half the time.

/sadface

I somewhere read that ICD was increased to 15 sec, even thought it says 10 in tooltip…

Jester.1236:

The centaur runes dont proc off each cast of mantra of heal. Its very inconsistent and i don’t know why. I was going to submit as a bug, but it seemed so minor i doubt they would care. It really bugs me though.

Yes it does but there is a 15 second cooldown (This includes the 10 second swiftness) So you only have 5 second downtime in between where it’s still on cooldown. I have a video on my mantra build thread demonstrating how this works and how Centaur runes proc with Mantra of Recovery

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Video-Guide-Mantra-Burst-Heal-Build-PvX

Good call Fay! I still don’t know if i can do the 5 seconds downtime. But maybe i can put less in chaos.

Fay.2735:

Jester.1236:

The centaur runes dont proc off each cast of mantra of heal. Its very inconsistent and i don’t know why. I was going to submit as a bug, but it seemed so minor i doubt they would care. It really bugs me though.

Yes it does but there is a 15 second cooldown (This includes the 10 second swiftness) So you only have 5 second downtime in between where it’s still on cooldown. I have a video on my mantra build thread demonstrating how this works and how Centaur runes proc with Mantra of Recovery

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Video-Guide-Mantra-Burst-Heal-Build-PvX

well really u have to wait just 3 seconds since rune of centaur give u 20%+ swiftness, so is 12 sec speed buff

I would run the build Chaos Archangel described, but with GS + S/S (I already do run it with 30/30/0/0/10 + Centaur Runes):

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fgAQNAscRl0zyoHRTkGbNJiJFDXvhqA2RqgqV6BvdhyGA;TsAg0CnomxMjYG7MuZkzsIYQwkCA

GS gives you range and a knockback, S/S gives you melee dueling ability. Specifically, S/S gives you a block and invulnerability on short cd’s when traited. You also have Diversion and Distortion availble with Deceptive Evasion and high crit. And even your clones do non-trivial damage with this build, with all its damage boosts.

Just giving an update on my Mantra build. Now that ive gotten all my gear set. I absolutly love how hard it hits. Big numbers make me smile, and i dont think im going to apologize for that :P I do feel squishy at times, if i can see the enemy coming, im usually fine. But there are times when i get caught, and then i get quickly dead. Ive resigned myself to keep the 20 in chaos as well. I just love what it offers to much. Am i losing a small bit of damage? Yeah, about 200 power is a big hit. But the toughness and the safefall and the damage reduction helps me feel not so squishy.

Mantras take time to get used to, but ill never go back to confusion

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/external?l=http%3A%2F%2Fgw2skills.net%2Feditor%2F%3FfgAQJAsfl0zyoHRTkGbNJiJFDXvhqA2RqQrV6xsdhyGA

Oh they nerfed the ICD to 15s? Lmfao.