Mesmer PVP Build - GS + Sword/Sword
What exactly is the strategy with these builds? How do you deal with conditions?
And is this for hotjoin?
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What exactly is the strategy with these builds? How do you deal with conditions?
And is this for hotjoin?
This is for anything.
Basic strategy with any phantasm build is to stealth, summon phantasms, and kite.
I’m curious about your traiting choices. Care to explain to me the purpose behind 25 in domination?
I’m curious about your traiting choices. Care to explain to me the purpose behind 25 in domination?
Yea a lot of ppl get confused with meta-builds with odd numbered traits.
Basically the 5 in Domination is for an extra 5% dmg initially. This build requires you to open with stealth so you can catch people off guard and get first hit.
Also, when you are in stealth you can summon phantams without de-stealthing.
Also, I don’t know if I mentioned it above, but if you aren’t swapping weapons every 8 seconds you aren’t taking full advantage of perma 3 phantasms and easy AI kills.
For example: If a thief jumps you. Just [Blurred Frenzy] to survive the initial burst. Summon swordsman, (if you are fighting a full zerker thief you will take them to 50% hp with these two moves), then swap and push them away and summon [Phantasmal Zerker]. By then the thief should be dead or Auto-attack will down them.
What exactly is the strategy with these builds? How do you deal with conditions?
And is this for hotjoin?
The HP pool for this build is high enough to deal with condi. But if you are dying repeatably with condi dmg you can swap any utility for [Null Field] or [Arcane Thievery].
I wouldn’t go Phantasmal Disenchanter because it uses a Phantasm slot that you will need for DPS.
I’m curious about your traiting choices. Care to explain to me the purpose behind 25 in domination?
Yea a lot of ppl get confused with meta-builds with odd numbered traits.
Basically the 5 in Domination is for an extra 5% dmg initially. This build requires you to open with stealth so you can catch people off guard and get first hit.Also, when you are in stealth you can summon phantams without de-stealthing.
Also, I don’t know if I mentioned it above, but if you aren’t swapping weapons every 8 seconds you aren’t taking full advantage of perma 3 phantasms and easy AI kills.For example: If a thief jumps you. Just [Blurred Frenzy] to survive the initial burst. Summon swordsman, (if you are fighting a full zerker thief you will take them to 50% hp with these two moves), then swap and push them away and summon [Phantasmal Zerker]. By then the thief should be dead or Auto-attack will down them.
Ah, I think I was a tad too ambiguous with my wording choices. Let me clarify.
The 5 point trait in domination is completely worthless. Putting one point there just to take that trait is an awful idea with absolutely no possible justification. I was simply asking to see if you had a justification for it.
The trait doesn’t even necessarily do any extra damage if you catch someone off-guard. If they’re doing anything…it’s immediately useless. Additionally, phantasms do not benefit from any personal % damage modifiers. Since this is a phantasm build, it makes that trait even more useless.
Additionally, Ether Signet is a horrible choice…even in a phantasm build. It simply offers far too low healing to be worth it. Additionally, there’s incredibly few situations where using the active is a beneficial choice. Ether feast outclasses it enormously. This is aggravated by the fact that you’re taking mender’s purity as your only condition removal. The signet (obviously) doesn’t work with that trait at all.
On that note, I noticed that in your second build you listed you have no condition removal. This will get you killed rapidly, so that’s a bad build.
Lastly, you’re using moa. This is fine if you’re just trying to alpha someone really fast…but fails more often than not if the player you’re fighting is even remotely competent. Mass invisibility is better in almost every aspect.
Edit: I noticed that you’re under the impression that having a high hp pool is actually defense against conditions. Perhaps on paper this is true, but in real situations it doesn’t work at all. Conditions are not only dangerous in the damage aspect, but in the control aspect of blind/weakness/cripple/chill removing your ability to attack and/or kite.
I’m curious about your traiting choices. Care to explain to me the purpose behind 25 in domination?
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Wow, I read your first two paragraphs and I just said to myself, “Mother of troll,” lol.
However, you did make a few good points so I will refute them and continue to defend this build, although I don’t think you will read it because you are clearly an elitist who just bashes people’s builds because they are better than yours.
First of all, people usually look at an oddly numbered trained build and just dismiss it. These people clearly can not count unless it is by even numbers. Someone who dismisses 1/3/5 in a build is a troll
I will admit that signet of ether is a semi-permanent modification to your boons that will make you more easily identifiable however everything he said about it healing less and how it is inferior to ether feast is completely wrong. Once again, someone who can not do math.
Finally, to address the condi. There is a setting in the game where you can “Turn red circles on for enemy aoe.” Turn that setting on. That’s a good setting.
Most elitist PVPers in this game always say, “Fight on Point and die on point.” Yeah you could abide by that philosophy if you want to get aoe condi bombed and die.
I believe this user completely disregarded the guild wars 2 form motto, “Be heard! Seek wisdom! Join a conversation with fellow adventurers, or start your own.”
In closing, normally I would not feed a troll, but this build rules. Kthxbi
So your main plan of attack is stealth.. your only form of stealth is decoy. You pretty much just picked any trait that said phantasm on it and hide around a corner spamming clones. This will only kill a person in the lowest lvl hotjoin if your opponent just does nothing to attack you or defend themselves.
I’m curious about your traiting choices. Care to explain to me the purpose behind 25 in domination?
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Insert random elitist troll rage
Wow, I read your first two paragraphs and I just said to myself, “Mother of troll,” lol.
However, you did make a few good points so I will refute them and continue to defend this build, although I don’t think you will read it because you are clearly an elitist who just bashes people’s builds because they are better than yours.
First of all, people usually look at an oddly numbered trained build and just dismiss it. These people clearly can not count unless it is by even numbers. Someone who dismisses 1/3/5 in a build is a troll
I will admit that signet of ether is a semi-permanent modification to your boons that will make you more easily identifiable however everything he said about it healing less and how it is inferior to ether feast is completely wrong. Once again, someone who can not do math.
Finally, to address the condi. There is a setting in the game where you can “Turn red circles on for enemy aoe.” Turn that setting on. That’s a good setting.
Most elitist PVPers in this game always say, “Fight on Point and die on point.” Yeah you could abide by that philosophy if you want to get aoe condi bombed and die.I believe this user completely disregarded the guild wars 2 form motto, “Be heard! Seek wisdom! Join a conversation with fellow adventurers, or start your own.”
In closing, normally I would not feed a troll, but this build rules. Kthxbi
I agree with Fay. Also he wasnt trolling, and his points were valid. There are probably a few tweaks you could do to improve this build.
I’m curious about your traiting choices. Care to explain to me the purpose behind 25 in domination?
Scroll up to read this post
Insert random elitist troll rage
Wow, I read your first two paragraphs and I just said to myself, “Mother of troll,” lol.
However, you did make a few good points so I will refute them and continue to defend this build, although I don’t think you will read it because you are clearly an elitist who just bashes people’s builds because they are better than yours.
First of all, people usually look at an oddly numbered trained build and just dismiss it. These people clearly can not count unless it is by even numbers. Someone who dismisses 1/3/5 in a build is a troll
I will admit that signet of ether is a semi-permanent modification to your boons that will make you more easily identifiable however everything he said about it healing less and how it is inferior to ether feast is completely wrong. Once again, someone who can not do math.
Finally, to address the condi. There is a setting in the game where you can “Turn red circles on for enemy aoe.” Turn that setting on. That’s a good setting.
Most elitist PVPers in this game always say, “Fight on Point and die on point.” Yeah you could abide by that philosophy if you want to get aoe condi bombed and die.I believe this user completely disregarded the guild wars 2 form motto, “Be heard! Seek wisdom! Join a conversation with fellow adventurers, or start your own.”
In closing, normally I would not feed a troll, but this build rules. Kthxbi
The only one who’s trolling here is you. kthxbi
I don’t think you will read it because you are clearly an elitist who just bashes people’s builds because they are better than yours.
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I don’t need self-validation from comparing other builds to mine. I got enough validation from anet nuking my build from orbit. I simply say it how it is.
First of all, people usually look at an oddly numbered trained build and just dismiss it. These people clearly can not count unless it is by even numbers. Someone who dismisses 1/3/5 in a build is a troll.
Perhaps some people look at an oddly numbered build and dismiss it, but I don’t. There are most definitely some minor traits that are worth getting. Illusions 3, dueling 3, domination 3, inspiration 5, (situationally) dueling 5 to name a few. Unfortunately, Domination 5 isn’t on that list, because it truly is a worthless trait.
I will admit that signet of ether is a semi-permanent modification to your boons that will make you more easily identifiable however everything he said about it healing less and how it is inferior to ether feast is completely wrong. Once again, someone who can not do math.
See, the nice thing about math is that you can’t argue with him. Luckily, I have a good relationship with math, and he tends to back me up. Let’s take a look, shall we?
0 Healing Power
Signet of the Ether
Passive heal over 20 seconds with 3 illusions: (980+.125*hp)x(21/3) = 6860
Passive heal over 20 seconds with 2 illusions: (660+.085*hp)x(21/3) = 4620
Passive heal over 20 seconds with 1 illusions: (340+.045*hp)x(21/3) = 2380
Passive heal over 20 seconds with 0 illusions: 0
Ether Feast
Heal per 20 seconds with 3 illusions: (5560+1* hp)+ (640+.1* hp)* 3 = 7480
Heal per 20 seconds with 2 illusions: (5560+1* hp)+ (640+.1* hp)* 2 = 6840
Heal per 20 seconds with 1 illusions: (5560+1* hp)+ (640+.1* hp)* 1 = 6200
Heal per 20 seconds with 0 illusions: (5560+1* hp)+ (640+.1* hp)* 0 = 5560
As you can see, Ether Feast is far stronger at all points. Additionally, ether feast scales far better with healing power compared to signet of the ether, meaning that every point of healing power increases the bonus that ether feast has. Lastly, it’s very easy to make sure you have 3 illusions for the 1 second cast of ether feast, but incredibly difficult to have 3 illusions for the entire duration of those 20 seconds of ticking. Ether feast is by far the superior heal, and math helpfully backs me up.
Finally, to address the condi. There is a setting in the game where you can “Turn red circles on for enemy aoe.” Turn that setting on. That’s a good setting.
Most elitist PVPers in this game always say, “Fight on Point and die on point.” Yeah you could abide by that philosophy if you want to get aoe condi bombed and die.
Well, PvP in this game is a function of point control. If you decide to run away every time a condie build shows up, you’re not going to be very effective at PvP.
I believe this user completely disregarded the guild wars 2 form motto, “Be heard! Seek wisdom! Join a conversation with fellow adventurers, or start your own.”
I fulfilled the ‘offer wisdom’ corollary of that motto, you just didn’t like the wisdom offered.
(edited by Fay.2357)