Mesmer generally good now?

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Posted by: Colonoscopy.8167

Colonoscopy.8167

Hi,

I wanted to play Necromancer since beta, but never did untill now since they needed alot of fixing.

Also want to try out mesmer, how do they stand very generally? Good dps? Doog pvper? Do pepole ask for mesmers for partys?

Give me some idea how it is right now in generall and comapared to lets say almost a year ago?

Thank you fellow players!

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Posted by: Kicast.1459

Kicast.1459

In PvP Mesmer have been put outside the meta since the Necro/warrior buff.
In WvW top professions are Warriors, Guards, Necro
It is a fragile class in zergs not able to dish hudge amount of aoe damage like eles or necros.
Mesmer have some utiliy usage but very few of them per zerg are sufficient and more is not good: they are called TP / Veil bots.

Very good mesmers seem to remain efficient on roaming however. I obviously do not belong to this list. Have challenging time (win 60% of my duels) with all profession except good warriors and goog thieves where i die or my opponent fly away very easily.

If your choice is related to Necro or Mesmer then I would say go Necro for zerg / pvp as they are very usefull in zergs and strong in PvP.
If you prefer roaming then go mesmer.
For Pve it doesn’t really matter as everything is doable by any class.

If you are not stuck to mesmer or necro the honnestly go warrior…you cannot be wrong.
I sent a message on healing signet arguing that overhealing passively autoattacks was a bug in conception or implementation.
=> my message got deleted in the hour. (no kidding) official reason: I made personnal attack on staff of Aremanet.
Thus I think they are not intending to change anything deeply on warrior… and warrior are god mode in all part of the games today:
-PVE => neverending list of groups looking for “full zerk warrior only”
-PvP => 3 warrior team are viable and played by some top teams / counters hard other strong professions like Necro / Rangers
-WvW Zerg => absolute gods => top control / top sustain damage / top armor / top condi denial / top vitality
-Roaming => top mobility

Lots of warrior are arguing they have been nerfed on last patch. All my guildies claim they take more benefit from the patch (for wvw at least).

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Posted by: Artaz.3819

Artaz.3819

Lots of warrior are arguing they have been nerfed on last patch. All my guildies claim they take more benefit from the patch (for wvw at least).

It’s a mixed bag. Warriors were nerfed in some sense and buffed in others. For WvW, Longbow fields (for tagging and general pressure) took a huge nerf and the reason for the nerf still doesn’t actually make sense since adrenaline is not generated from the AoE field. Toughness line used mainly for WvW was buffed immensely on the top end.

Mesmers were OK pre-patch but now they are are …

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Posted by: takatsu.9416

takatsu.9416

The mesmer has always needed more effort and play skill to keep on top of things. dueling and roaming mesmer no doubt is great and has a fun time. With some good builds you could do 1vX pretty decently.

in zergs they feel more like utility bots, but it’s because commanders or the group largely doesn’t prioritize calling out or asking for mesmer skills other than veils etc, mesmers can still do alot of good stuff like insane downing people with reflects in a zerg. But yes it takes a lot of work, and other classes have some important core things they do well which makes mesmer seem like a topping in a zerg setting.

PvE is great fun, easily capable of amazing solo-ing feats or great utility in runs. but don’t compare dps numbers, because obviously warrior for example can pull of high numbers. this is all good and all in pve, but mesmer utility and survivability are essential in a lot of situations. often i find mesmer the last class standing in runs or whatever bc of all the skills mesmers have

all in all mesmers are about skill, both player skill to put in extra effort to stand toe to toe in competitive situations, and class skills that acts as catalysts or changes the tide of the situation. it’s not your direct damage focused or tank class. it has decent damage and survivability, but obviously other classes will pull off better numbers on paper. but i always say, its not about the numbers in real combat

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Posted by: Colonoscopy.8167

Colonoscopy.8167

Thank you for the answear, i think that will do. Im acculey playing Warrior from the start since necro was so bad, then took a almost year break and now finding that necro is awesome. But maybe ill stick with necro and warrior then

Thanks again!

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Posted by: takatsu.9416

takatsu.9416

i’d say you’re missing out if you don’t play mesmer honestly. It’s the only class i’ve clicked with… all the other classes just pale in comparison because i could hardly care about the numbers. the game play, the play style, the skill and capability that can synergize with a good player’s skill is amazing fun. it just has a lot more potential than other classes imo in the right hands. it can be pushed far, whereas i feel limited with other classes into its box