Mesmers Need 25% speed bonus

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Posted by: theblankcalendar.1792

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Some tricks in addition to focus swiftness. 6 centaur superior runes with like mantra of recovery will give u near perma swiftness. u can get swift moa feathers from tigg npc or trading post, but that may be costly in the long run(buy order of 18s right now for 30 min).

No centaur runes + mantra of recovery = guaranteed 24/7 permanent swiftness not near because remember it also increases boon duration making heal skills give you more than 10 seconds of swiftness. So not only can you get perma-swiftness but you can also stack swiftness for you AND people near you so it’s also good in Zergs.

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Posted by: calavel.6249

calavel.6249

No centaur runes + mantra of recovery = guaranteed 24/7 permanent swiftness not near because remember it also increases boon duration making heal skills give you more than 10 seconds of swiftness. So not only can you get perma-swiftness but you can also stack swiftness for you AND people near you so it’s also good in Zergs.

I really really like the new centaur runes, but the reason I’m not using the mantra/centaur trick is that I think it fails you when you need it the most. When all your healing charges are blown, you are trying to get away and are in a bad position to charge the mantra heal, you really need that extra movement speed but you can’t get it.
Speed runes, on the other hand, will ensure that you almost always have swiftness when you are in a bad spot (you are being hit often so the swiftness will trigger), and if don’t have swiftness at least you have +25%. With Centaur runes, you have either swiftness or nothing which can sometimes be a problem.

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Also with the trait that makes mantras heal, even activating mantra of recovery will heal you. I’ve also found that with that trait and the mantra of pain you can heal every 3 seconds for the same amount that mantra of recovery heals you. Oops getting off topic.

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Posted by: selan.8354

selan.8354

I use Centaur runes, temporal curtain and for an added bit of fun, I have a sigil of speed slotted.

Post-60, I have nearly 100% uptime on swiftness – it can probably 100% for someone who times it right, paying a small bit of attention. All these are very, very cheap until you have the traveler runes in place (if you want them).

which will limit your build by a ton. if u have torely on a rune only because of speedbuff and also a sigil, thats that extra power, or condi or anything else everyother class can choose form u are missing right there. so if i lik power and toughness rune i cant cause i run centaur? u know 10 less toughness does make a difference. and that extra condi or power or condi removal like melandru…..just saying being bound to a rune is not a good thing at all.

Hey now, I never said it was perfect. But if someone wants to have speed, it’s there as an option. And I personally find it fun, and don’t feel especially limited.

well i get that. but its not ok that other classes dont need to use runes in order to be at halfway decent out of combat speed. its just a bad desicion that has never been improved since launch. but then again… mes just needs massive rework,tons of bugfixes,traitwork and new non ai build options.

i know every class has some weakspots but ours keep adding up.
terrible out of combat speed
bad condi cleanse
no stability
no aoe dmg
squishy
bad aa atacks cause of phantasms

so comon anet. just put work into this class already. why making us so slow?

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Posted by: Doug Whisper.2465

Doug Whisper.2465

No centaur runes + mantra of recovery = guaranteed 24/7 permanent swiftness not near because remember it also increases boon duration making heal skills give you more than 10 seconds of swiftness. So not only can you get perma-swiftness but you can also stack swiftness for you AND people near you so it’s also good in Zergs.

I really really like the new centaur runes, but the reason I’m not using the mantra/centaur trick is that I think it fails you when you need it the most. When all your healing charges are blown, you are trying to get away and are in a bad position to charge the mantra heal, you really need that extra movement speed but you can’t get it.
Speed runes, on the other hand, will ensure that you almost always have swiftness when you are in a bad spot (you are being hit often so the swiftness will trigger), and if don’t have swiftness at least you have +25%. With Centaur runes, you have either swiftness or nothing which can sometimes be a problem.

You see Centaur runes with Mantra Recovery as a disadvantage, I see the opposite. When I need heal in combat, usually it also means I need to avoid damage. Otherwise I just let my health bar eat it. In this case, the extra swiftness from Centaur runes increase my chance to successfully avoid the damage. With the same logic I keep the Air runes on my glassy Elementalist, which is invaluable.

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Posted by: Myst.9182

Myst.9182

There is no way i can give up my Runes of Speed. Mesmers are sooooo slow, especially when something puts u in combat.

If feels mandatory to run Speed or Traveler.

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Posted by: calavel.6249

calavel.6249

You see Centaur runes with Mantra Recovery as a disadvantage, I see the opposite. When I need heal in combat, usually it also means I need to avoid damage. Otherwise I just let my health bar eat it. In this case, the extra swiftness from Centaur runes increase my chance to successfully avoid the damage. With the same logic I keep the Air runes on my glassy Elementalist, which is invaluable.

Well no, I certainly see the advantage. MoR is unique when it comes to heals, I don’t think any other class besides engi is capable of proccing their on-heal rune whenever they need it.
The problem is the charge on the mantra, which can sometimes create a swiftness gap. I don’t like having my swiftness tied to a very long cast time that’s super telegraphed and easy to interrupt. If you mantra charge fails for any reason, you are in a very bad spot with default movement speed.

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Posted by: Xavi.6591

Xavi.6591

Centaur Runes + Mantra of Recovery + Exotic Potion = Swiftness

Why waste your heal?

But I agree, Mesmers need a utility that grants swiftness.

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Posted by: Doug Whisper.2465

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In case you are not aware of, someone long time ago have post a video on how to use Phase Retreat to dash forward. Below are the command sequence I use.

Walk
About Face
Delay 0.43 sec
Phase Retreat
About Face
Walk

My key bind for Walk, About Face and Phase Retreat are L, W, and 2 respectively. Thus, the key sequence is

L
X
Delay 0.43 sec
2
X
L

The toggle of Walk help to maximize the dash distance no matter the PC is Auto Run or Stationary. The 0.43 sec delay is for the animation of 180 degree turn of the PC and camera. Less than that will result in an angle off from the straight line.