Mirror Blade
It was a dumb nerf yes, there are things that i want much more than this though, but this one is easy to implement.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
^ Usually only characer that i play on
^ Usually only characer that i play on
With all that Mirror Blade can do, I found the nerf to be fair. I would rather see buffs to non-torch/shield off-hands to make them competitive.
Gandara
Agreed. It’s not like its hard to dodge the skill in its entirety, let alone the 4th bounce.
Myrias Faust – Mesmer
Victory or Death [VoD] – Yak’s Bend
Victory or Death [VoD] – Yak’s Bend
With all that Mirror Blade can do, I found the nerf to be fair. I would rather see buffs to non-torch/shield off-hands to make them competitive.
Focus needs a kitten buff for pvp and offhand sword could use something to make it more appealing compared to the other options.
hope moderator will clear this thread and discusion will continue
Not are you insanely aggressive, you’re also insanely insulting, and insanely wrong all at the same time. Such a wonderful combination!
I could back up my statement that you’re insanely wrong buuuuuuuuuuuuuut quite honestly I don’t care to, you’ll just have to take it on my word. If somebody else wants me to explain, I’ll consider it.
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A reversion of mirror blade would be nice, But I haven’t suffered much from the nerf so I’m in between (But I would still like the old MB)
can i somehow create voting at this forum? bcuz we have 700+ views and only 20 replies (1/3 of replies is just stupid spam about offhands and “want attention” kids)
so ppl could just press “yes” or “no” in voting about old mirror blade
I really think they need to remove the part about mirror blade that is unblockable.
I really think they need to remove the part about mirror blade that is unblockable.
1. its so easy to dodge at long range; at short range is a little bit harded but mb has kitteng animation so if u are good its not problem for u and if u are bad… l2p
2. so, 0 ublockable skills for mesmer class is okay yea?
I really think they need to remove the part about mirror blade that is unblockable.
1. its so easy to dodge at long range; at short range is a little bit harded but mb has kitteng animation so if u are good its not problem for u and if u are bad… l2p
2. so, 0 ublockable skills for mesmer class is okay yea?
Yeah, that’s okay with me. Mesmer shouldn’t have any unblockable skills. Especially one on such a short cd that hits so hard. Unblockable skills should go to classes that have a hard time landing attacks. But mesmer is attacking from all directions at all times with clones, phantasms, shatters, and wells. Mirror Blade should be blockable.
Emm?.. Revenant has hard time to land attack? Dragon hunter?
I really think they need to remove the part about mirror blade that is unblockable.
1. its so easy to dodge at long range; at short range is a little bit harded but mb has kitteng animation so if u are good its not problem for u and if u are bad… l2p
2. so, 0 ublockable skills for mesmer class is okay yea?Yeah, that’s okay with me. Mesmer shouldn’t have any unblockable skills. Especially one on such a short cd that hits so hard. Unblockable skills should go to classes that have a hard time landing attacks. But mesmer is attacking from all directions at all times with clones, phantasms, shatters, and wells. Mirror Blade should be blockable.
Okay, warrior.
Oh wait, that’s it.
Yaniam [Mesmer]
^ Usually only characer that i play on
^ Usually only characer that i play on
But mesmer is attacking from all directions at all times with clones, phantasms, shatters, and wells. Mirror Blade should be blockable.
Don’t worry, I’ve had a lot of experience with sort of issue. I diagnose it as a terminal case of PEBKAC.
I really think they need to remove the part about mirror blade that is unblockable.
1. its so easy to dodge at long range; at short range is a little bit harded but mb has kitteng animation so if u are good its not problem for u and if u are bad… l2p
2. so, 0 ublockable skills for mesmer class is okay yea?Yeah, that’s okay with me. Mesmer shouldn’t have any unblockable skills. Especially one on such a short cd that hits so hard. Unblockable skills should go to classes that have a hard time landing attacks. But mesmer is attacking from all directions at all times with clones, phantasms, shatters, and wells. Mirror Blade should be blockable.
Okay, warrior.
Oh wait, that’s it.
I’m a mesmer and has been since launch. If you don’t agree, then fine. I stand by what I say.
It’s too strong as it is. No one wants to see their precious class nerfed, so of course no one on this thread will agree.
If i were going to change Mirror Blade, I would make it blockable, OR make it so it’s unable to bounce at all.
I really think they need to remove the part about mirror blade that is unblockable.
1. its so easy to dodge at long range; at short range is a little bit harded but mb has kitteng animation so if u are good its not problem for u and if u are bad… l2p
2. so, 0 ublockable skills for mesmer class is okay yea?Yeah, that’s okay with me. Mesmer shouldn’t have any unblockable skills. Especially one on such a short cd that hits so hard. Unblockable skills should go to classes that have a hard time landing attacks. But mesmer is attacking from all directions at all times with clones, phantasms, shatters, and wells. Mirror Blade should be blockable.
Okay, warrior.
Oh wait, that’s it.
I’m a mesmer and has been since launch. If you don’t agree, then fine. I stand by what I say.
It’s too strong as it is. No one wants to see their precious class nerfed, so of course no one on this thread will agree.
If i were going to change Mirror Blade, I would make it blockable, OR make it so it’s unable to bounce at all.
WTF? So I am deserved to see revenant heals up in his safe shield bubble w/o the ability of doing anything? There is already an over abundance of unblockable skills from other class. Why can’t we have something similar?
This debate on whether or not MB should be blockable. . . . Even if it was blockable…nothing is stopping me from laser-ing my enemy with GS1 then mirror… But either way you are like the 0.000000001% when it comes to this. (In my view at least, I haven’t seen any complaints about MB before this)
This debate on whether or not MB should be blockable. . . . Even if it was blockable…nothing is stopping me from laser-ing my enemy with GS1 then mirror… But either way you are like the 0.000000001% when it comes to this. (In my view at least, I haven’t seen any complaints about MB before this)
Yeah, I’m definitely in the minority.
But definitely other classes have their own balance issues. But their attacks about which should and shouldn’t be unblockable should be for another thread.
I always assumed Mirror Blade was made unblockable because it is a clone-producing ability.
Yeah, that’s okay with me. Mesmer shouldn’t have any unblockable skills. Especially one on such a short cd that hits so hard. Unblockable skills should go to classes that have a hard time landing attacks. But mesmer is attacking from all directions at all times with clones, phantasms, shatters, and wells. Mirror Blade should be blockable.
Your argruement doesnt make any sense… If blocks could only absorb X amount of hits, I could understand your point. It doesnt matter if your hitting someone 1/sec or 100000000000000000000000/sec, a block will block everything that is blockable during its duration.
Mirror blade only ‘hits hard’ if you can control its bounces. Which means being right on top of your target where spatial surge will be doing negligible damage.
Dont get me wrong, Mirror blade needed to be nerfed after the specialization update. It was way over-performing. I would have preferred they cut its base damage by 20%~ and leave the extra bounce, but its fine the way it is now.
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I always assumed Mirror Blade was made unblockable because it is a clone-producing ability.
Yeah, that’s okay with me. Mesmer shouldn’t have any unblockable skills. Especially one on such a short cd that hits so hard. Unblockable skills should go to classes that have a hard time landing attacks. But mesmer is attacking from all directions at all times with clones, phantasms, shatters, and wells. Mirror Blade should be blockable.
Your argruement doesnt make any sense… If blocks could only absorb X amount of hits, I could understand your point. It doesnt matter if your hitting someone 1/sec or 100000000000000000000000/sec, a block will block everything that is blockable during its duration.
Mirror blade only ‘hits hard’ if you can control its bounces. Which means being right on top of your target where spatial surge will be doing negligible damage.
Dont get me wrong, Mirror blade needed to be nerfed after the specialization update. It was way over-performing. I would have preferred they cut its base damage by 20%~ and leave the extra bounce, but its fine the way it is now.
My argument makes perfect sense. if there is a class that is very easily kited and attacks are slow and every easy to dodge. if they play well and are able to land a big attack, sometimes that big attack then gets blocked. Times like that it may be okay for an attack to be made unblockable. I think warriors can do that with their signet of might. It’s a utility skill they have to slot and has a decent cd to accompany it.
Greatsword mesmers are the best kiters in the game. Also, they have no problem landing any attacks. Block is a nice counterplay mechanic that mesmer shouldn’t be able to bypass. It’s too much for mesmer to also have an unblockable attack in addition to being great kiters, attacking from all sides at once, and insane on demand burst damage.
Unblockable skills can’t be reflected. If a projectile is not unblockable, it can be reflected.
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Reflect
Having said this, since mirror blade is a projectile, if it were to be reflected, you’d end up with your opponent having a clone of themselves. You can already do that with the scepter auto (unless they fixed it), but that’s another story.
attacking from all sides at once
What is this?
Suppose, you are not using gs, but having problems vs gs mesm while using offhand sword?
Gs2 do like 2k damage with both crits.
You see gs mesmers/cronos being OP in current meta, thus wann make them only class without offensive unblockable capability (don’t count arcane thievery)?
I really can’t be convinced that mirror blade needs to be unblockable.
But that’s fine. I’m not a dev, I can’t change anything. I was just stating my opinion on the skill.
Honestly, as far as the tangential discussion goes, unblockable should simply not exist. Period.
Outside one one specific situation: A specific effect gives you temporary “unblockability”.
That is, compare what Revenants have in shiro stance. It puts a buff on them. That type of stuff. Other than that, no, if it’s an attack, and I can block attacks, I should be able to block the attacks. Done.
The strength of heart to face oneself has been made manifest. The persona Carighan has appeared.
If people want to get rid of unblockable, we better get rid of stunbreak too. I think its OP that when I stun people they can get away. Nerf please
Myrias Faust – Mesmer
Victory or Death [VoD] – Yak’s Bend
Victory or Death [VoD] – Yak’s Bend
If people want to get rid of unblockable, we better get rid of stunbreak too. I think its OP that when I stun people they can get away. Nerf please
Good luck with that. And……as in “get away” do you mean escaping? If you do then I’ve never imagined a world where…MoD or f3 would be used defensively….
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If this is the worst we’ll ever get for a nerf, I think I can handle it.
If people want to get rid of unblockable, we better get rid of stunbreak too. I think its OP that when I stun people they can get away. Nerf please
Like I said, it should be an actively activated skill giving you a limited amount of unblockability.
Just like it is an actively activated skill granting you a stunbreak and/or further immunity.
The strength of heart to face oneself has been made manifest. The persona Carighan has appeared.
I really think they need to remove the part about mirror blade that is unblockable.
1. its so easy to dodge at long range; at short range is a little bit harded but mb has kitteng animation so if u are good its not problem for u and if u are bad… l2p
2. so, 0 ublockable skills for mesmer class is okay yea?Yeah, that’s okay with me. Mesmer shouldn’t have any unblockable skills. Especially one on such a short cd that hits so hard. Unblockable skills should go to classes that have a hard time landing attacks. But mesmer is attacking from all directions at all times with clones, phantasms, shatters, and wells. Mirror Blade should be blockable.
Okay, warrior.
Oh wait, that’s it.
I’m a mesmer and has been since launch. If you don’t agree, then fine. I stand by what I say.
It’s too strong as it is. No one wants to see their precious class nerfed, so of course no one on this thread will agree.
If i were going to change Mirror Blade, I would make it blockable, OR make it so it’s unable to bounce at all.
Yes mesmer is too strong i don’t disagree with you (chrono)
Yaniam [Mesmer]
^ Usually only characer that i play on
^ Usually only characer that i play on
I was pointing out that for every action there needs to be counter play. Stuns have stunbreaks, blocking has unblockable moves. Remove unblockable moves and blocking will be OP. sPvP doesn’t need to be any slower with everyone hiding behind shields, etc.
What exactly is strong about Mesmer and in what game mode? sPvP is largely lacking, our presence in PvE is 90% because alacrity (and nerfing this is just another case of give mesmer something decent, and then take away 110%) , and WvW is barely even a game mode right now.
Edited because I forgot to finish my thought, lol
Myrias Faust – Mesmer
Victory or Death [VoD] – Yak’s Bend
Victory or Death [VoD] – Yak’s Bend