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Ok, let’s all speculate on what thing Druids will get that’s kind of like a better version one of our mechanics or utility skills or traits.

My guess: Spirit Pets will take no damage from AoEs. Swapping Aspects will shatter the Spirit Pet for AoE damage and apply two stacks of Torment before immediately resummoning the Spirit Pet with full HP.

tobascodagama.2961:

Ok, let’s all speculate on what thing Druids will get that’s kind of like a better version one of our mechanics or utility skills or traits.

My guess: Spirit Pets will be take no damage from AoEs. Swapping Aspects will shatter the Spirit Pet for AoE damage and apply two stacks of Torment before immediately resummoning the Spirit Pet with full HP.

Poison. Otherwise, sounds about right.

What is the point of this thread? Rangers have been the lowest tier in pve and pvp. So what if they get something great?

Mesmers have gotten a lot of buffs to chrono on the recent BWE3 changes, and you still speculate “Oh other classes have this better”

What a joke. This will turn out to be another “pity party” for sure.

Way to go mesmer community..

I’m looking forward to Druid a lot. Want to see if I can build a staff + greatsword melee power druid if possible, depending on how the staff skills operate.

Who are you kidding? Druids are going to get nerfed versions of our skills, not buffed ones…

StickerHappy.8052:

What is the point of this thread? Rangers have been the lowest tier in pve and pvp. So what if they get something great?

Mesmers have gotten a lot of buffs to chrono on the recent BWE3 changes, and you still speculate “Oh other classes have this better”

What a joke. This will turn out to be another “pity party” for sure.

Way to go mesmer community..

I agree, it’s so annoying that everyone compares their main to the most recent elite spec in a vacuum. It’s also bad on the martyr filled necroforum, in which everyone cries about every elite spec getting ways to counter chill or more burning on berserker or adaptive armor in scrapper being better than the necro version of the trait. It’s annoying considering how we have the balance designer with the best ability to iterate and rework classes, and each iteration of feedback has made chronomancer and reaper subsequently more useful and fun.

Fay.2357:

Who are you kidding? Druids are going to get nerfed versions of our skills, not buffed ones…

Touché.

As for the purpose of the thread: I dunno, I have a dark sense of humour, and I can’t bring myself to get too, too worked up over video game stuff these days. So I find the whole raging-about-other-class’-nice-things business kind of funny.

I was also inspired by this thread, which is clearly posted in a rather tongue-in-cheek spirit as well: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/hot/Druid-is-a-better-than

Maybe my cheeky suggestion was a bit too realistic.

I hope Druid is better than us. Ranger/Necro have always been like kindred spirits to me since they are the other classes that most often get shafted.

Fay.2357:

Who are you kidding? Druids are going to get nerfed versions of our skills, not buffed ones…

Its funny because its true.

Levetty.1279:

Fay.2357:

Who are you kidding? Druids are going to get nerfed versions of our skills, not buffed ones…

Its funny because its true.

#CryOfFrustration

They will get 200% running speed, they need it, because every time our WvW zerg sees a Ranger the commander tells us to kill it. :P

Why is this in the Mesmer Forum ?

Druid is going to be Ranger Elite and has nothing to do with Mesmer.

StickerHappy.8052:

What is the point of this thread? Rangers have been the lowest tier in pve and pvp. So what if they get something great?

Mesmers have gotten a lot of buffs to chrono on the recent BWE3 changes, and you still speculate “Oh other classes have this better”

What a joke. This will turn out to be another “pity party” for sure.

Way to go mesmer community..

Lol, I love how you’re instantly on the Ranger Defensive, Stickers :D

Ross Biddle.2367:

StickerHappy.8052:

What is the point of this thread? Rangers have been the lowest tier in pve and pvp. So what if they get something great?

Mesmers have gotten a lot of buffs to chrono on the recent BWE3 changes, and you still speculate “Oh other classes have this better”

What a joke. This will turn out to be another “pity party” for sure.

Way to go mesmer community..

Lol, I love how you’re instantly on the Ranger Defensive, Stickers

In his defense, this is a pretty unnecessary thread.

Fay.2357:

Ross Biddle.2367:

StickerHappy.8052:

What is the point of this thread? Rangers have been the lowest tier in pve and pvp. So what if they get something great?

Mesmers have gotten a lot of buffs to chrono on the recent BWE3 changes, and you still speculate “Oh other classes have this better”

What a joke. This will turn out to be another “pity party” for sure.

Way to go mesmer community..

Lol, I love how you’re instantly on the Ranger Defensive, Stickers :D

In his defense, this is a pretty unnecessary thread.

I agree.

I also know Stickers :D

Ross Biddle.2367:

StickerHappy.8052:

What is the point of this thread? Rangers have been the lowest tier in pve and pvp. So what if they get something great?

Mesmers have gotten a lot of buffs to chrono on the recent BWE3 changes, and you still speculate “Oh other classes have this better”

What a joke. This will turn out to be another “pity party” for sure.

Way to go mesmer community..

Lol, I love how you’re instantly on the Ranger Defensive, Stickers

We still love you, Stickers. <3 <3 <3

If I don’t get portal with druid I am going back to Mesmer main ;-)

No joke, someone actually suggested druids get portal skill called campsite or something.

Traits:
Minor:
- back to nature: The druid is allowed to carry a staff. Takes no condition dmg while under a transformation.
- nature shield: grants obsidian armour while transformed
- nature bold: grants 5 stability and 20 might while transformed. Also pulses 5 torment and 5 burn to enemies in a 240 radius.

Adept traits:
- grants stealth while transformed.
- activating pets grants superspeed.
- interrupting an enemy roots as well as a random condition. Grants you 5 might and a random buff

Master Traits:
- gives 3 random boons while stealthed
- pets gain all buffs from your minor traits while transformed
- interrupting an enemy stuns for 3 seconds and applies 5 stacks of confusion in a 240 range. Interrupting skills are now aoe.

Grandmaster Traits:
- gain 1000 stats increase on all stats while stealthed
- pets transform when you transform
- when interrupting an enemy you duplicate your Pet twice. They remain 60 seconds (5 seconds cooldown)

Skills:

Staff:
- fires a beam of leaves that cripple and weaken enemies
- grants distortion
- dazes enemies around you and your target
- confuses around you and your target (5 confusion)
- summons roots that that bleed, root and cause dmg

Heal:
- transforms you into a healing turret.

Utility:
- transform into a chicken
- transform into a moa
- transform into a quaggan
- transform into a parrot

elite:

- transform into a gs+torch/sc+staff phanterupt condition PU shatter mesmer

Kappa

Druid will get either elixers, mantras, or corruptions. Maybe cantrips.

So if its Mantras, Rangers will get
3 Charges baseline
Mantras recharge in background once charged (baseline)
Effects proc everything Rangers have ever asked for, except active condi cleanse.

…ranger still run full survival traited to survive condi, signit of stone, and/or condi trap setup to remain somewhat in play :p

Ross Biddle.2367:

Druid will get either elixers, mantras, or corruptions. Maybe cantrips.

Why stop at 4 guesses? Toss a few more in there for good measure.

I’m pretty sure they data mined glyphs for Druids, you know, those useless elementalist utilities.

nearlight.3064:

I’m pretty sure they data mined glyphs for Druids, you know, those useless elementalist utilities.

At least there’s something useless for Elementalists!

MailMail.6534:

nearlight.3064:

I’m pretty sure they data mined glyphs for Druids, you know, those useless elementalist utilities.

At least there’s something useless for Elementalists!

Which we all know in no way means it will be useless for Rangers.

As if they’re going to make an Elite line that won’t leave the majority of players of a class drooling to buy HoT. ;-)

Whatever it will be, it will be pretty OPd or at least it will be really cool/unique if not OPd. Then after HoT releases the real balancing phase starts, and 6 months down the road we might see something resembling balance.

I dislike rangers, generally. Anet will prob give them shatter skills and buff the longbow.

MailMail.6534:

nearlight.3064:

I’m pretty sure they data mined glyphs for Druids, you know, those useless elementalist utilities.

At least there’s something useless for Elementalists!

Some are niche but I wouldn’t call them useless.

Ross Biddle.2367:

StickerHappy.8052:

What is the point of this thread? Rangers have been the lowest tier in pve and pvp. So what if they get something great?

Mesmers have gotten a lot of buffs to chrono on the recent BWE3 changes, and you still speculate “Oh other classes have this better”

What a joke. This will turn out to be another “pity party” for sure.

Way to go mesmer community..

Lol, I love how you’re instantly on the Ranger Defensive, Stickers

nah dude, I’m on the side of rationality. haha, I play all classes competitively so It wouldn’t be necessarily rangers, It could also be necros who are on the bottom of the food chain.

Yeah no class is getting jealous of that pile of trash.

I’m jealous because everyone’s getting (way) more skills than the chrono :c

tetrodoxin.2134:

I’m jealous because everyone’s getting (way) more skills than the chrono :c

But, hey, we got F5 ! /s

I’m really happy for the Ranger/Druid thought.

Krispera.5087:

tetrodoxin.2134:

I’m jealous because everyone’s getting (way) more skills than the chrono :c

But, hey, we got F5 ! /s

I’m really happy for the Ranger/Druid thought.

Druid got F5 too! And I freaking loathe the Druid announcement. I see no reason to bring anything but Druids.

Absconditus.6804:

Krispera.5087:

tetrodoxin.2134:

I’m jealous because everyone’s getting (way) more skills than the chrono :c

But, hey, we got F5 ! /s

I’m really happy for the Ranger/Druid thought.

Druid got F5 too! And I freaking loathe the Druid announcement. I see no reason to bring anything but Druids.

Idk, maybe if you want to do damage?

I will say this Pyro, the movement increase they got seems better than ours XD.
However, they have a lot of heals and not a lot of damage so I’m not super worried about them. Granted the reflect could be annoying and I do like the new pets.

Jace al Thor.6745:

I will say this Pyro, the movement increase they got seems better than ours XD.
However, they have a lot of heals and not a lot of damage so I’m not super worried about them. Granted the reflect could be annoying and I do like the new pets.

They’re just gonna have a bad time if anet doesn’t implement some sort of ‘assist’ system for tagging/credit.

Fay.2357:

Absconditus.6804:

Krispera.5087:

tetrodoxin.2134:

I’m jealous because everyone’s getting (way) more skills than the chrono :c

But, hey, we got F5 ! /s

I’m really happy for the Ranger/Druid thought.

Druid got F5 too! And I freaking loathe the Druid announcement. I see no reason to bring anything but Druids.

Idk, maybe if you want to do damage?

Remember, content in HoT is not regular GW2 content. its tougher and harder. Each class will bring roles. Druids can do dmg, but that is not their main focus. They will bring their own to the table within raids, and dungeons now. ZERK meta is over honey pie.

Why should anyone in the current dungeons pick a druid/healer over a fifth zerker? It’s not necessary. For raids, yeah, maybe. But current dungeons? I highly doubt that…

Zerk meta is only over for people that aren’t as skilled. I was still doing fine for the vast majority of the beta with my normal full zerker build and I hadn’t learned most of the tells yet. It kind of felt like a dungeon solo with zerker gear in that sense.

I am not convinced that it’s dead for raids. It might be harder and maybe there will be 1 or 2 anchors but I really don’t think it’s dead.

I think there was a line I read somewhere that there will be damage and mechanics than cannot be dodged in upcoming content.

tetrodoxin.2134:

I’m jealous because everyone’s getting (way) more skills than the chrono :c

While druid does get a lot of skills and seems to go against what they said about 2h vs off hands when first announced, all of druids skills can be summed up as ‘and this also heals’. We aren’t missing out on much there.

Tealots.6095:

I think there was a line I read somewhere that there will be damage and mechanics than cannot be dodged in upcoming content.

I imagine that will stay for a couple weeks then all the people that QQ about not being able to fight Mesmer, that there is no trinity, that thieves are OP and stealth is OP will flood the forums complaining and Anet will nerf raids.

Jace al Thor.6745:

Tealots.6095:

I think there was a line I read somewhere that there will be damage and mechanics than cannot be dodged in upcoming content.

I imagine that will stay for a couple weeks then all the people that QQ about not being able to fight Mesmer, that there is no trinity, that thieves are OP and stealth is OP will flood the forums complaining and Anet will nerf raids.

To be fair it sounds like really kittenty design in a game that advertised no healers and its combat system is based around the ability to dodge and heal yourself.

It’s… It’s everything I’ve wanted to play since launch.

Must not switch mains must not switch mains omg

Chaos Archangel.5071:

It’s… It’s everything I’ve wanted to play since launch.

Must not switch mains must not switch mains omg

Chaos… If you switch I will have Pyro haunt you. You can’t switch until I can beat you and Ry in a duel :P

I still like Chrono better than Druid. However, I can see some interesting builds with Druid

Chaos Archangel.5071:

It’s… It’s everything I’ve wanted to play since launch.

Must not switch mains must not switch mains omg

Just go Inspiration and spam MoP, shatters and add Chrono for well of eternity. If that doesn’t meet your groups healing needs I’m sure your friendly neighbourhood Guard, rev and ele can help you out while providing all the support and damage they are capable of.

Chaos Archangel.5071:

It’s… It’s everything I’ve wanted to play since launch.

Must not switch mains must not switch mains omg

Druid looks to be a gamechanger for PVP, if it can output the type of burst healing and control people are speculating. I had given up hope on my Ranger for HoT (was planning on playing Rev for PVE) but man Druid looks good.

kitten , it looks amazing. :o

Proper game changer, and could be very powerful.

Levetty.1279:

tetrodoxin.2134:

I’m jealous because everyone’s getting (way) more skills than the chrono :c

While druid does get a lot of skills and seems to go against what they said about 2h vs off hands when first announced, all of druids skills can be summed up as ‘and this also heals’. We aren’t missing out on much there.

Oh, don’t misunderstand me. I’m not jealous about what they got. It’s just the amount of shiny new buttons to push. 5 weapon skills, 5 transform skills, 6×2 utility skills, 5 new pets is awesome and I’m happy for each Ranger player out there. I like the Chrono’s F5 ability and the depth that comes with it, but in the end it’s just more of the same (which, again, isn’t bad – I like our stuff).

Still wondering what they meant with elite specs that only feature an offhand will get something “just as good” as a full new bar of skills. I assume that’s what you meant with 2h vs offhands. Probably just a way to calm the (offhand) masses :P
Those two shield skills sure look pitiful compared to Reapers, Druids, Scrappers… well, pretty much every other Elite Specs, even Tempests got 4×2 new weapon skills on that offhand.

I ain’t mad though, Chronomancer still is awesome.
It’s just a bad case of woulda-shoulda-coulda. And the bad aftertaste of that 2h vs offhand statement we got. Nnnnghh :X

tetrodoxin.2134:

Still wondering what they meant with elite specs that only feature an offhand will get something “just as good” as a full new bar of skills. I assume that’s what you meant with 2h vs offhands.

Yeah I presumed it was the initial pattern that was emerging of 2h get their f skills replaced while off hands get an additional f skill (which I’d argue isn’t really something as good) but then we got the triple whammy of Theif, Engie and Ranger blowing that theory out of the water.

I’m personally annoyed by the Druid not because it’s stepping on any of the Mesmer’s toes but because I hate what it implies about HoT content.

I did the old 2x Tank, 2x Healer, 8x DPS thing for a couple of years in LOTRO (which had 12-man raids), and I’m just over it. It’s not any less stale than GW2’s Zerker meta. If anything, it’s more stale just for being so similar to literally every other PvE-focused MMO on the market.

Yawn.

Fay.2357:

Jace al Thor.6745:

I will say this Pyro, the movement increase they got seems better than ours XD.
However, they have a lot of heals and not a lot of damage so I’m not super worried about them. Granted the reflect could be annoying and I do like the new pets.

They’re just gonna have a bad time if anet doesn’t implement some sort of ‘assist’ system for tagging/credit.

Tagging on druid?
I think the best way is probably just go tank and use that elite glyph skill. It will be on 16 cd if traited.

It seems interesting to me, not exactly what I expected.

I have to say… it kinda screws with the “Something extra” for only getting an off-hand theory. Chronomancer is still great and I’m not annoyed at all – just puzzled what ele, mesmer, rev & warrior got as “extra” things.