Question for the boonshare pros

Question for the boonshare pros

in Mesmer

Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

Considering your boonshare on phant summon, is signit of inspiration really necessary? +10% boon duration, random boon every 10s, but the boon sharing part? Is the build significantly weaker without it? Or weaker vs alternative utilities?

Question for the boonshare pros

in Mesmer

Posted by: Fay.2357

Fay.2357

Considering your boonshare on phant summon, is signit of inspiration really necessary? +10% boon duration, random boon every 10s, but the boon sharing part? Is the build significantly weaker without it? Or weaker vs alternative utilities?

Well, the signet objectively doubles your boonshare output, along with giving you a way to boonshare that is directly controlled, and not tied to other skills.

Question for the boonshare pros

in Mesmer

Posted by: jportell.2197

jportell.2197

Considering your boonshare on phant summon, is signit of inspiration really necessary? +10% boon duration, random boon every 10s, but the boon sharing part? Is the build significantly weaker without it? Or weaker vs alternative utilities?

I’ve found that with just one ele or guard, having the signet will allow you to get one SOI off every 15 seconds and 100% 25 might stack up time. It also can allow immense team stacking of literally every boon in the game if you time your chaos storm/shatters right.

Johnny The Gray
GASM’s Bunker Mesmer

Question for the boonshare pros

in Mesmer

Posted by: Necrotize.2974

Necrotize.2974

The swiftness it provides is also nice for getting around. On top of that, the random boons it provides can mean an extra 6% boon and condition duration due to Chaotic Persistence. The fact that it isn’t tied to your phantasms like Fay said is another great way to time it effectively and get the most bang for your buck. While you probably won’t have a super impressive stack/duration of boons on yourself, more shares means your allies will. Sharing more frequently can allow you to give allies quite impressive amounts of not only might, but also long duration Vigor, Protection and Regen.

So not necessary by any means, but it does give you the freedom to cast your phantasms when you want to, not just when you have a lot of boons.

Question for the boonshare pros

in Mesmer

Posted by: Chaos Archangel.5071

Chaos Archangel.5071

Short answer: having both forms of boonshare makes the build go from somewhat gimmicky to a legitimately strong build. (Also.. The new bountiful disillusionment helps with that. =P)

If you only had to choose one, I’d say Signet of Inspiration is better than the trait. The ability to directly control when you share the boons makes a major difference.

Sure, you can cancel-cast the phantasm and still proc the trait, but illusionary inspiration tends to be passive 75% of the time and demands a playstyle shift to accommodate it. (Like not summoning phantasms at the start of a fight)

Now an interesting question is if the signet trait is worth it over something like Temporal Enchanter and the ability to share resistance alongside signet of inspiration. I personally haven’t done enough tests to see.

Question for the boonshare pros

in Mesmer

Posted by: Fay.2357

Fay.2357

Now an interesting question is if the signet trait is worth it over something like Temporal Enchanter and the ability to share resistance alongside signet of inspiration. I personally haven’t done enough tests to see.

Unlikely, since in that build you really can’t take more than one glamour. Also, since the duration of the resistance is so low, you’re not going to get much benefit from boon sharing it.

Question for the boonshare pros

in Mesmer

Posted by: Necrotize.2974

Necrotize.2974

Short answer: having both forms of boonshare makes the build go from somewhat gimmicky to a legitimately strong build. (Also.. The new bountiful disillusionment helps with that. =P)

If you only had to choose one, I’d say Signet of Inspiration is better than the trait. The ability to directly control when you share the boons makes a major difference.

Sure, you can cancel-cast the phantasm and still proc the trait, but illusionary inspiration tends to be passive 75% of the time and demands a playstyle shift to accommodate it. (Like not summoning phantasms at the start of a fight)

Now an interesting question is if the signet trait is worth it over something like Temporal Enchanter and the ability to share resistance alongside signet of inspiration. I personally haven’t done enough tests to see.

I’ve been messing around with exactly that and tried combining it with a more glamour-centric build with boonsharing being an after-thought(but still pretty big part). Both variations seem to be very effective, although obviously the Glamour trait is better against condi heavy teams. Burn guards in particular have an issue with mesmers running Inspiration due to small amounts of cover conditions, but with Temportal Enchanter, burn guards and even celestial eles will have a problem with your whole team. Sharing up to 6-7 seconds of resistance with everyone on point is crazy good if even one of the opponents is condition focused and effectively takes them out of the equation for the duration.

I’d say both builds have their uses and are both effective. The Glamour traited build however would be better suited to being the team rezzer, as traited glamours+Medic’s Feedback means you can revive regardless of poison or slow.

If you have 2 boonshare mesmers, I see no reason not to have one running Glamours and the other running Illusionary Inspiration. Together they’d have incredibly sustain and if timed properly, pretty much immune to conditions. Say mesmer 1 is glamour traited and mesmer 2 is iInspiration. Drop null field, 3.5 seconds of resistance to both. Mesmer 2 shares, M1 goes up to about 6 seconds resistance and then shares it back to M2(8-9 seconds) and then M2 summons a phantasm to share again putting M1 at about 14-15 seconds of resistance, plus whatever mess of boons there happened to have at the time.

Now an interesting question is if the signet trait is worth it over something like Temporal Enchanter and the ability to share resistance alongside signet of inspiration. I personally haven’t done enough tests to see.

Unlikely, since in that build you really can’t take more than one glamour. Also, since the duration of the resistance is so low, you’re not going to get much benefit from boon sharing it.

Null Field and Time Warp can be taken as well as taking Medic’s Feedback. One share the second you drop a Glamour means allies get around 6 seconds of resistance. Pretty substantial IMO.

Question for the boonshare pros

in Mesmer

Posted by: tobascodagama.2961

tobascodagama.2961

Null Field and Time Warp can be taken as well as taking Medic’s Feedback. One share the second you drop a Glamour means allies get around 6 seconds of resistance. Pretty substantial IMO.

What’s your Stun Break, then? Seems like you could get bursted down pretty easily by any build with even a little hard CC.

Amberley Avalen – Charr Mesmer
Tanya Larina – Human Thief
Finchy Whyte – Sylvari Ranger

Question for the boonshare pros

in Mesmer

Posted by: Necrotize.2974

Necrotize.2974

Null Field and Time Warp can be taken as well as taking Medic’s Feedback. One share the second you drop a Glamour means allies get around 6 seconds of resistance. Pretty substantial IMO.

What’s your Stun Break, then? Seems like you could get bursted down pretty easily by any build with even a little hard CC.

Blink usually. Blink+Null Field+SIgnet. Perma protection does wonders when it comes to surviving bursts and you likely have permanent regen as well.

Question for the boonshare pros

in Mesmer

Posted by: Esplen.3940

Esplen.3940

Null Field and Time Warp can be taken as well as taking Medic’s Feedback. One share the second you drop a Glamour means allies get around 6 seconds of resistance. Pretty substantial IMO.

What’s your Stun Break, then?

I use tempests for my stunbreaks. flips hair

walks away

Question for the boonshare pros

in Mesmer

Posted by: messiah.1908

messiah.1908

boon share on phatasm summon not really relayable for a good stacks of boons
first you need to create boons and it takes some time so not to use phantsm will hurst your dmg

one good boon share can turn the fight all over.
i dont say its not good and while in mid fight after 1 min its can be good

but for me the signet is more powerful also as it procs 2 boons on me

i play 2 builds atm
bunker with glamour null, warp and medic feedback thus the chaos armor uptime is long and also for my team if its get blast so more blind and boons on them
with and ele i can stack 25 might on my group along side to regen, vigor, fury, protection and resistnace more than 10 sec which is huge advantage
with condi build with carrion 1.9k armor also protection save me while i can do good dmg and condi dmg

all in all signet is better equip in any build

why i think its good instead of another break stun like decoy – give you protection swiftness and many more while you have blind and stability on shatter so you are safe from beeing burst while decoy wont really help you against cleaves etc…

portal mmmm….. – with portal you run alone so dont play boon share…. problem solved