Guild Wars 2

Just a simple question, how would you counter the MH sword if you are equipped with Scepter or other Range weapons(Excluding Staff)? The Invulnerable from Blurred Frenzy is a bit annoying and the immobilize and gap closer is also pretty tough to handle. Just wondering is all.

Still unclear why you are always so worried about other Mesmers BUT I will actually answer part of your question for once.

Best way to counter the iLeap is to use terrain. Be higher or lower than the mesmer. That skill is still so glitchy it is silly. If you are in open field find a “slight” bump(s) to fight around and that will be enough to mess it up.

Scepter builds are mainly condition builds and as long as the condition is on him already Blurred Frenzy doesn’t stop the damage anymore cause it is an evade instead of immunity like it used to be. Also you are right that BF is a “bit” annoying cause as a ranged player would shouldn’t really have to worry about it much.

Thanks Hexxen. Feels nice for you to be able to answer this question. And the reason I am so worried about other Mesmers are the fact that if I lose to a Mesmer very frequently, then the build I am using must be a bit lacking against other classes, too. That’s just my own logic. Nothing else at all. But thanks again. But I want to hear more opinions/feedbacks.

If you have played mesmer for a while then it is really easy to spot the gap closer it is very visible. The blurred frenzy is annoying but it is quick and like hexxen said it is an evade now not an invul which means conditions still hit. So ranged weapons should be able to easily beat the main hand sword depending on the build of corse because of the fact the sword is melee and the gap closer has a limited range (well it wont catch a gs at full range but it might for scepter)

Blink, condi remove, your own blurred frenzy, f4, or just tank it for kittenz and giggles.

Also there may be nothing wrong with a build, and instead the problem lay in how it’s being played. Should be noted.

Dodge. Blurred frenzy or leap is very easy to spot.

If you dont have energy left,, a scepter isnt going to save you. Unless youre an elementalist and blind the mesmer so the immobilize misses.

Edit: didnt read the other range weapons part… You can wave the clone away if youre fast enough. But you really shouldnt run out of energy with the perma viglr we have :P

Thanks guys, your answers really helped a lot. But can u guys afford the time for one more question?

Do I need to have Blink for 1 vs X and 1 vs 1? Thanks guys. really.

Blink is one of the best utilities you have at your disposal. I run it in all my various mesmer-builds…

themenaceofseventhdimension.2075:

Thanks guys, your answers really helped a lot. But can u guys afford the time for one more question?

Do I need to have Blink for 1 vs X and 1 vs 1? Thanks guys. really.

I dont know, do you?

I actually am a bit undecided on this matter. Sometimes I win 1 vs X with Blink, and sometimes without. So I can’t really decide on everything at the moment, that’s why I came to you guys.

What are you considering bringing instead of the blink?

If I don’t take blink, I need some other stun breaker or something to reset the fight – decoy typically being it. I’ve had success either way. The decision to take blink is also partially based on my access to swiftness. If I am running focus, I’ll be more apt to run decoy, etc. Just depends on the situation.

themenaceofseventhdimension.2075:

Thanks guys, your answers really helped a lot. But can u guys afford the time for one more question?

Do I need to have Blink for 1 vs X and 1 vs 1? Thanks guys. really.

depends on your style. I never ever go in pvp without blink

If im not using blink im usino decoy just because I find it important to have a stun break for the odd stun warrior or just to relieve some pressure off me.
That being said I like decoy over blink but thats just preference.

There’s some people or builds that go without blink, actually i’ve seen some successful mesmers run without decoy, blink or like… anything… and i’m like… how do you manage? but they seem to do really well LOL. i’d personally never go without blink and decoy both xD im a kiter

Guys, your feedbacks are all so thankful. Like no jk, but I still am a bit stumped on What I should do without blink. So let’s say I were in a situation where like it happened to be 2 vs 9. If I get targetted and let’s say immobilized, is stealthin and going the opposite direction of my enemy as good as blinking away directly front?

If you get immobilized break out and move on. If you need breathing room stealth and run behind them. What I normally do is run away from them then stealth and run in the opposite direction. People always assume you will continue in the same direction and that gets me my breathing room I need. But I am lost on your question now. The sword is an immobilize with a potential semi strong BF coming your way if you actually get hit. Break the stun and walk away or stealth and get PU buffs and face tank it. You are now talking about Blink which though there is only one build I run where I do not have it set I am not sure what you are trying to figure out here.

I am trying to make sure the build I’m working on isn’t too fragile when it comes to getting immobilized. Since I am getting better overall build if I sacrifice Blink, so I wanted to keep it that way, or try to find out if the cons outweigh the pros to see what I need to work on more.

WitchKing.5317:

If im not using blink im usino decoy just because I find it important to have a stun break for the odd stun warrior or just to relieve some pressure off me.
That being said I like decoy over blink but thats just preference.

Blink for me. Faster recharge, and don’t need too go deep within a trait line to pick up a reduced cooldown. That and the fact that other players can still bash your face in with auto-attack if they trap you in an Immobilize (remember it’s a condition, you won’t break from it). With Blink I may still be Immobilized, but at least I’ll be insta-900 range away from them. Well doesn’t really matter for me anyway, I will almost always carry both Decoy and Blink regardless of build.

Regarding tactics, it depends on your build. For mine with traited Manipulations and traited Torch, I practically have 100% safety from iLeap+Frenzy.

themenaceofseventhdimension.2075:

I am trying to make sure the build I’m working on isn’t too fragile when it comes to getting immobilized. Since I am getting better overall build if I sacrifice Blink, so I wanted to keep it that way, or try to find out if the cons outweigh the pros to see what I need to work on more.

Keep in mind stunned and immobilized are different things. You need a condition clear for immobilize and stun breaker for stun.

Last four questions: I think. I have tested each and every one of them out, and so I will give you my opinions on it, but I ask that you guys give your opinions on them too. Plz. I want this build to be the Entire Mesmer Forum’s work and mine compiled into one Beautiful Build

1. Is retaliation necessary?(Eh, so, so)
2. Is Mender’s purity with Mantra of Recovery a good idea?(Possibly, statistics are too funky)
3. is having 3 stealths, Torch/30seconds, Decoy/40 Seconds, and MI/90 Seconds
enough to beat a Blackwater build or Osicat’s condi build which has 4 stealths? with torch having 24 second cd.
(I think you have to use the terrain to your advantage and make each stealth count, then maybe)
4. Is 40% crit chance a minimum, or should it be higher?(I think it should be tid bit higher, but I don’t know. As I am seeing this build right now, I think it is impossible to add higher ccrit chance. It just messes up other components too much I think)

1) Knowing you you are talking about a hybrid which will not have enough power to make retaliation worth anything.
2) I hate Mender’s Purity
3) Stealths don’t win matches skill does.
4) No idea I hate using crit.

1. I actually have decent power. 3100 is pretty decent right?
2. I hate it too, but there is a possibility that Anet will somehow reduce the charge time.
3. I agree, just wondering about the General statistics
4. I have to decide on that

@Hexxen. So anyways, very good feedbacks. I’m so thankful that you have the time to help out. Thanks a bunch. Hope you get to be able to see the build I have prepared and know that everyone, including you, were able to help make it better. THanks.

If it’s not too much to ask already, could you guys post the builds here in which

One vs Many(Taking on 3 people or less) is possible without Blink? Thanks so much.
I will make sure the revised build is a memorable one. I promise.

1. Mesmer body is not that strong to take damage and return the reta. Treat Reta as a Bonus.
2. Interupt > Mantra. U must be careful with that.
3. The more Defensive side u have the weaker ur offensive side. Having a lot of Stealth can’t guarantee a win but can guarantee an escape
4. 40% is so so. My Guardian is 40% Rate.

10/30/0/0/30, anything is possible on shatter. Just remove blink and replace it with something else. Youll cripple yourself, but not enough to be unviable.

Actually, you can take on 1vs3 with any decent Mesmer pvp build that isnt built for 1v1 only. You just have to hope for 3 average players (most are average), if theres a pro, youre kittened :P

Alissah.9281:

Actually, you can take on 1vs3 with any decent Mesmer pvp build that isnt built for 1v1 only. You just have to hope for 3 average players (most are average), if theres a pro, youre kittened :P

^^ this.

My builds (signature) are also capable of 1vsX.

I would love to post the stats here, so that you guys are able to see how the build looks like to further improve. Mind if I do that? or you guys want to see the build as a whole when I release it?

I want video, and not of people running away

Yes, I understand. But like I said before, it will be the PvP Dueling vid. It’s as fast way to show you what it is capable of. Then I shall move onto WvW later.

1.) I use Retaliation as part of a package. Typical Mesmer’s hp isn’t good enough to solely rely on Ret, but it can be fun combined with Reflects/Confusion.

2.) I personally mainline Mirror for heal. Faster to use than MoRec, and another projectile bounce, when timed right.

3.) That’s more of a build vs. build issue, tbh. I’ve have good -and bad- runs with both
Stealth-heavy, and Stealth-less builds.

4.) I personally tend to run around 40-50% Crit, but my go-to build incorporates Celestial trinkets, and thus packs a reasonable Crit Dmg even if I slant heavier towards Conditions. For my “combat” armor, that’s plenty of Crit% … although, I’ve been tempted to make another suit that’s Cavalier/Valk/Assassin or Zerk mixture. Knight/Soldier’s tough to crack, but the damage could use work.

Thanks for the help Advent. really. I’m starting to get the hang of this.

One Very Last question. no more after this. Is having Blink and Torch CD with lower stats better than having No Blink and No Torch Cd with higher stats? Plz answer soon. Then I think I can finish the build a heck of a lot quicker.

themenaceofseventhdimension.2075:

Thanks for the help Advent. really. I’m starting to get the hang of this.

One Very Last question. no more after this. Is having Blink and Torch CD with lower stats better than having No Blink and No Torch Cd with higher stats? Plz answer soon. Then I think I can finish the build a heck of a lot quicker.

If your build needs those things, those are priority. Never prioritize stats you get from traits over what your build needs to be successful.

Thanks a bunch man. Now I have a clearer path. Will post the revised build in this week if I can. It’s been like a month of revising lol. I can’t post the vid as same as the date of build release. I am finding insufficient people to duel against. And I have to find them on the weekends, which is kind of a short period of time to duel and record each time.