Guild Wars 2

I’ve been using pyro’s phantasm build for 1v1s and Ireally love it, but I’m trying to find an equally strong build (whether it be in conditions or power) that I could use that would better benefit a team fight in pvp. Any suggestions?

Your typical 4/4/0/0/6 shatter is the TPvP meta for a reason. Aoe boon rip, huge spike damage, good mobility and good control. Also its synergy with a thief for your teams roaming comp is devastating.

I have been running 6/6/0/2/0 for max damage with mantra of pain, mantra of distraction and halting strike. It’s insanely fun because your burst damage is crazy .

GS zerker
Mantra of distraction
Mantra of pain
GS3
Distract again
GS2
Shatter

That chain lands in 3 seconds or so and it does crazy amount of damage with a lucky crite or 2 you can kill pretty much any glass build. It really catches people off guard oftern they don’t have time to put to any defence before it’s too late.

Lockdown Mesmer can be tricky to learn, but certainly works well in PvP.

Check this thread for details.

Mogar.9216:

I have been running 6/6/0/2/0 for max damage with mantra of pain, mantra of distraction and halting strike. It’s insanely fun because your burst damage is crazy .

GS zerker
Mantra of distraction
Mantra of pain
GS3
Distract again
GS2
Shatter

That chain lands in 3 seconds or so and it does crazy amount of damage with a lucky crite or 2 you can kill pretty much any glass build. It really catches people off guard oftern they don’t have time to put to any defence before it’s too late.

Impossible, mantra of distraction has a 5 second cooldown.

BlackDevil.9268:

Mogar.9216:

I have been running 6/6/0/2/0 for max damage with mantra of pain, mantra of distraction and halting strike. It’s insanely fun because your burst damage is crazy .

GS zerker
Mantra of distraction
Mantra of pain
GS3
Distract again
GS2
Shatter

That chain lands in 3 seconds or so and it does crazy amount of damage with a lucky crite or 2 you can kill pretty much any glass build. It really catches people off guard oftern they don’t have time to put to any defence before it’s too late.

Impossible, mantra of distraction has a 5 second cooldown.

Yeah, and the chain would have more damage if it looked more like ..

Gs Zerker + MoDistraction + Pain (The instants should be cast at the same time as the zerker)

Illusionary Wave

Mirror Blade (GS2) + Mind Spike (GS3) + Mind Wrack (F1) or Diversion (F3)

GS1 + MoDistraction

/dance

So 5 seconds. I don’t time my bursts to a Tee you can easily replace it with another shot of mantra of pain
anyhow it’s not hard to try it spvp gear is free .

Chaos Archangel.5071:

BlackDevil.9268:

Mogar.9216:

I have been running 6/6/0/2/0 for max damage with mantra of pain, mantra of distraction and halting strike. It’s insanely fun because your burst damage is crazy .

GS zerker
Mantra of distraction
Mantra of pain
GS3
Distract again
GS2
Shatter

That chain lands in 3 seconds or so and it does crazy amount of damage with a lucky crite or 2 you can kill pretty much any glass build. It really catches people off guard oftern they don’t have time to put to any defence before it’s too late.

Impossible, mantra of distraction has a 5 second cooldown.

Yeah, and the chain would have more damage if it looked more like ..

Gs Zerker + MoDistraction + Pain (The instants should be cast at the same time as the zerker)

Illusionary Wave

Mirror Blade (GS2) + Mind Spike (GS3) + Mind Wrack (F1) or Diversion (F3)

GS1 + MoDistraction

/dance

yes, but not wave . Everything in that chain can be done at 1200. The cool part is to burst on people before they even know you are there :P

Neptune.2570:

Your typical 4/4/0/0/6 shatter is the TPvP meta for a reason. Aoe boon rip, huge spike damage, good mobility and good control. Also its synergy with a thief for your teams roaming comp is devastating.

^This, tpvp meta is standard shatter with thief, for solo q mantra/lockdown works too. I sometimes for fun play condi CI but it works only because ppl don’t expect this

Neptune.2570:

Your typical 4/4/0/0/6 shatter is the TPvP meta for a reason. Aoe boon rip, huge spike damage, good mobility and good control. Also its synergy with a thief for your teams roaming comp is devastating.

I’m guessing you’re talking about the double ranged from the metabattle wiki, I’ve heard it takes some practice and its pretty fun, my problem I’ve had with it is the damage hasn’t been too good and dies very easily.

It hasn’t been too bad against other classes, but certain ones like thieves theres just been no chance lol. I often die before I can do anything significant because thieves or a staff ele just melt me. I could probably use some help on what combinations to use and a general strategy

Weapon sets are upto you, I along with many prefer the double ranged option though. If I were you I would watch some shatter guides and read supcuties shatter guide, there’s loads of stuff that will help so much, but it is a spec that will take a bit of practice. As for the thief problem, that’s something you really have to deal with. They hard counter us badly, but with practice you can kite away from them. It helps having a team in comms so you can have your guard or thief peel for you when you get targeted.

Neptune.2570:

Weapon sets are upto you, I along with many prefer the double ranged option though. If I were you I would watch some shatter guides and read supcuties shatter guide, there’s loads of stuff that will help so much, but it is a spec that will take a bit of practice. As for the thief problem, that’s something you really have to deal with. They hard counter us badly, but with practice you can kite away from them. It helps having a team in comms so you can have your guard or thief peel for you when you get targeted.

Can you give me some combinations to use for the double ranged shatter? Ive been using it and I feel ike the stuff is there, its just not able to kill very fast (my phantasms with pyro’s build tend to take down people fatser at this moment), any combinations?

The most basic of combo’s is: I Zerker, Mirror Blade, dodge into target, Mind wrack+Mind Stab. Prior to this you can build 20+ stacks of vulnerability and land some damage from halting strike with a diversion shatter and chaos storm in your offset. However shatter is not so much about pre-determined rotations and is a lot more reaction based play as you go. It’s a spec to get creative with to be successful. In seriousness there are endless combinations, but the idea of them all is too land your 3 clone shatter + IP.

I should also note that at most levels of play pyro’s phantasm build will work, it is only at higher tiers or if your getting picky about optimizing your comp that shatter is taken for it’s unique ability’s.

Neptune.2570:

The most basic of combo’s is: I Zerker, Mirror Blade, dodge into target, Mind wrack+Mind Stab. Prior to this you can build 20+ stacks of vulnerability and land some damage from halting strike with a diversion shatter and chaos storm in your offset. However shatter is not so much about pre-determined rotations and is a lot more reaction based play as you go. It’s a spec to get creative with to be successful. In seriousness there are endless combinations, but the idea of them all is too land your 3 clone shatter + IP.

I should also note that at most levels of play pyro’s phantasm build will work, it is only at higher tiers or if your getting picky about optimizing your comp that shatter is taken for it’s unique ability’s.

I’m finding some combos out, the problem im noticing is im not getting many stacks of vulnerability. I keep reading metabattle saying you get 25 stacks but dont explain how

Dazes give 5 stacks, interrupts give 3. A full 3 clones + IP of diversion is 20 stacks + more if it lands an interrupt or two. your staff auto/clones have a chance to apply vuln as part of there RNG, 3 staff clones out will usually keep about 5-6 stacks+give you might and fury, shatter with diversion for 25 vuln stacks + 4 more might stacks, then swap to your GS for your mind wrack combo.

Neptune.2570:

Dazes give 5 stacks, interrupts give 3. A full 3 clones + IP of diversion is 20 stacks + more if it lands an interrupt or two. your staff auto/clones have a chance to apply vuln as part of there RNG, 3 staff clones out will usually keep about 5-6 stacks+give you might and fury, shatter with diversion for 25 vuln stacks + 4 more might stacks, then swap to your GS for your mind wrack combo.

Thank you, I’m starting to get better now with the double ranged shatter build, it was definitely hilarious when we went against a team of four guardians an an engineer and stripped them of their boons for an easier kill.

My skill in 1v1s with this build needs some work, but it’s really rewarding when I do get combos right and see an enemy get downed pretty fast.

Chaos Archangel.5071:

Lockdown Mesmer can be tricky to learn, but certainly works well in PvP.

Check this thread for details.

I had a guy once screaming at me for keeping him stunned for like 11second. accused me of hacking. Had to stop and explain to him how confounding suggestion and sigil of paralyzation worked. Granted, I got lucky in every daze proccing to stun, but still I lolzed hehe

Morfedel.4165:

Chaos Archangel.5071:

Lockdown Mesmer can be tricky to learn, but certainly works well in PvP.

Check this thread for details.

I had a guy once screaming at me for keeping him stunned for like 11second. accused me of hacking. Had to stop and explain to him how confounding suggestion and sigil of paralyzation worked. Granted, I got lucky in every daze proccing to stun, but still I lolzed hehe

Do you like it better than double ranged shatter?

Its mostly a matter of personal preference. Some people enjoy shatter more while others enjoy lockdown.

Both work in tpvp, but shatter has been around longer and is more proven.

Chaos Archangel.5071:

Its mostly a matter of personal preference. Some people enjoy shatter more while others enjoy lockdown.

Both work in tpvp, but shatter has been around longer and is more proven.

I’ll probably end up trying both, I’m always down for trying new builds!

I think im going to need some help on the double ranged shatter, its good support, but the burst damage hasn’t been what I’ve heard it was. Anyone here know how to use it?

Are you NA or EU? I’d be happy to help out if I’m online and not lagging too badly (Oceanic connections aren’t always the best quality)

Neptune.2570:

Are you NA or EU? I’d be happy to help out if I’m online and not lagging too badly (Oceanic connections aren’t always the best quality)

Im NA and thank you!

DrDivine.5378:

Morfedel.4165:

Chaos Archangel.5071:

Lockdown Mesmer can be tricky to learn, but certainly works well in PvP.

Check this thread for details.

I had a guy once screaming at me for keeping him stunned for like 11second. accused me of hacking. Had to stop and explain to him how confounding suggestion and sigil of paralyzation worked. Granted, I got lucky in every daze proccing to stun, but still I lolzed hehe

Do you like it better than double ranged shatter?

Yeah, but just for style, no particular mechanical reason for it

http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Mesmer_-_Double_Ranged_Shatter

This is the best and most frequent mesmer PvP build atm. But if you dislike staff you can also use this version:
http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Mesmer_-_Traditional_Shatter