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Posted by: Sandrox.9524

Sandrox.9524

Hello guys,
I played in every aspect of the mesmer class,and in all my time playing it,I enjoyed playing with sword/sword the most.
Problem is I always get nuked by ppl in pvp saying sword/sword is just not good setup.
You want stun? go pistol it is way better than the sword daze.You want sustain?go torch,the stealth is way better than the sword block.You want strong phantasm?well,pistol got you covered again.

I tried various of builds with it,and all these builds were screaming PISTOL at me even though I did great with s/s setup in tpvps.

My question,which I doubtfull if anyone would know how to answer it,is if there is a way that Sword/Sword,at any certain situation or at certain wierd working build,shines?
Thank you for the tiresome reading of this semi QQ post.

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Posted by: Jurica.1742

Jurica.1742

Staff + Sw/Sw is the usual weapon set people use for lockdown builds. They are really, really hard to play, extreme risk, extreme reward.
I tried it out, tons of fun interrupting heals and various skills and seeing people rage/get damage from it). The one I used was the following:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Guide-Vid-Mind-Crush-CS-Lockdown

Have a wonderful day, happy gaming!

Pineapples rule

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Posted by: Curunen.8729

Curunen.8729

Well, Sw/Sw does have incredibly low cooldown and good illusion generation, if double traited (blade training + IC).

But yeah, as you said – pistol and torch offer better utility.

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Posted by: Sandrox.9524

Sandrox.9524

Staff + Sw/Sw is the usual weapon set people use for lockdown builds. They are really, really hard to play, extreme risk, extreme reward.
I tried it out, tons of fun interrupting heals and various skills and seeing people rage/get damage from it). The one I used was the following:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Guide-Vid-Mind-Crush-CS-Lockdown

Have a wonderful day, happy gaming!

Tried that sort of build with the power block new trait.Why not using the pistol OH?

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Posted by: Alasteir.7031

Alasteir.7031

Staff + Sw/Sw is the usual weapon set people use for lockdown builds. They are really, really hard to play, extreme risk, extreme reward.
I tried it out, tons of fun interrupting heals and various skills and seeing people rage/get damage from it). The one I used was the following:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Guide-Vid-Mind-Crush-CS-Lockdown

Have a wonderful day, happy gaming!

Tried that sort of build with the power block new trait.Why not using the pistol OH?

You can if you want, but iSwordsman hits harder and all of its damage is immediate, and not spread out. The Pistol interrupt has a bigger cooldown than the Sword OH interrupt if I do recall, and in a Lockdown build the more dazes/stuns you have access to, the better. But go ahead and try it; better to see for yourself what works for you than to take the advice of others at face value.

Lady Novae – 80 Human Ele – Blackgate

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Posted by: Sandrox.9524

Sandrox.9524

Staff + Sw/Sw is the usual weapon set people use for lockdown builds. They are really, really hard to play, extreme risk, extreme reward.
I tried it out, tons of fun interrupting heals and various skills and seeing people rage/get damage from it). The one I used was the following:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Guide-Vid-Mind-Crush-CS-Lockdown

Have a wonderful day, happy gaming!

Tried that sort of build with the power block new trait.Why not using the pistol OH?

You can if you want, but iSwordsman hits harder and all of its damage is immediate, and not spread out. The Pistol interrupt has a bigger cooldown than the Sword OH interrupt if I do recall, and in a Lockdown build the more dazes/stuns you have access to, the better. But go ahead and try it; better to see for yourself what works for you than to take the advice of others at face value.

One more thing i’d like to ask if you may,would you replace confounding suggestions for power block? and would you take another sigil of paralyze to staff 2nd sigil slot?

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Posted by: EverythingEnds.4261

EverythingEnds.4261

I used to run Sword/Sword, however I also switched back to Sword/Pistol.

If the sword block would be usefull vs. backstabs, probably every Mesmer would run /sword.
However, as it isn’t /Pistol just seems better, as the Stun it provides seems better like /swords daze

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Posted by: Iconoklast.2389

Iconoklast.2389

The pistol is just way better bc of that stun. It can lead to some nasty damage combos/1shots

Iconoklast – Guardian / Icono Clone – Mesmer
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Posted by: Chaos Archangel.5071

Chaos Archangel.5071

All of this talking down on the sword! Eff you guys!

The sword has a couple of advantages over the pistol and other offhands:

  • Low cooldown daze. The daze projectile is piercing and thus hits all targets in its path. If that’s not good enough, you can use this 3 times more often than the pistol’s stun.
  • Most damaging weaponset. The iSwordsman will almost always outdamage the iDuelist since the pistol phantasm is significantly easier to dodge/LoS. Outside of that, the sword’s counterattack does ridiculous amounts of damage(4k+), making it easily the most damaging 5-skill set when combined with mainhand sword.

The trick to using offhand sword effectively is mastering that counter. It’s difficult and often best saved for AoEs or telegraphed attacks (or when you can distortion to cover it) but it’ll make all the difference.

The pistol’s stun is good for sure, but it’s single target (though it can bounce to daze a second target) and on a much higher cooldown than the swords multi-target daze.

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Posted by: skcamow.3527

skcamow.3527

Other thing about this discussion that’s important to consider is the build/traits being used. For example, sword off-hand is better to use IMO than pistol in a 4/4/6 lockdown build using CI and BI due to the pistol stun overwriting the effects of CI. Sword #4 daze orb is excellent for that type of build.

Kortham Raysplitter (Yak’s Bend)

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Posted by: Chaos Archangel.5071

Chaos Archangel.5071

Other thing about this discussion that’s important to consider is the build/traits being used. For example, sword off-hand is better to use IMO than pistol in a 4/4/6 lockdown build using CI and BI due to the pistol stun overwriting the effects of CI. Sword #4 daze orb is excellent for that type of build.

annddd blade training in adept tier ftw