What is the most effective build for sPvP?

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Posted by: Jasher.6580

Jasher.6580

I have been running a condition build I stole from the Team Paradigm website. Staff/Sceptre, Pistol. It has been pretty effective so far.

Nevertheless, I’ve been hearing a lot about a shatter build and a phantasm build which may be a little more effective?

What are the details behind these builds? Could someone link these builds for me with runes and sigils from wowhead? Also, how do they stack up against one another in terms of effectiveness?

Thanks in advance.

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Posted by: LaronX.8079

LaronX.8079

Probably still Shatter build. Which means Sword/pistol as your main set and what ever as you secondory set ( GS or Staff are good options) You go like 20/20/0/0/30

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Posted by: Jasher.6580

Jasher.6580

Probably still Shatter build. Which means Sword/pistol as your main set and what ever as you secondory set ( GS or Staff are good options) You go like 20/20/0/0/30

What are the runes and sigils that you run? Also, how effective is the Phantasm build in sPvP?

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Posted by: LaronX.8079

LaronX.8079

You run runes of air with sigiles of fire or air and force on the Sword/pistol and on the swap weapon Perception is nice for the stacks or something else you like it dosn’t really matter.

Phantasm builds are kind of meh.
You have to invest a decent amount into them to get them do good dmg and be more then 1hit and even then they are crappy. Don’t get me wrong they do great dmg but they hit very slow, die very fast and tend to spawn in aoe or stand in aoe.

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Posted by: daydream.2938

daydream.2938

Most effective? Almost certainly shatter.

I personally recommend 5 scholar ruins and 1 divinity for maxing out damage on crit.

Now. As for sigils i recommend on the sword either might stacking on switch to weapon, +5% damage , or lighting strike on critical (air i think), something like that. In the pistol ,and the off hand weapon run superior energy sigil.

Why superior energy? two reasons. 1. you dont have much defense, so being able to dodge alot is valuable.
2. With the right trait set up dodging spawns clones, and you need clones to add to your damage. The advantage here is that dodging ADDS to your damage, giving you more bang for buck with this particular sigil.

Its not universal which trait set you run, but here is a conventional list. 20/20/0/0/30.
Domination: V, vii
dueling: V, x
illusions:vi, vii, xi

Additionally for utilities you want some sort of clone generating stun break, like mirror image or decoy, or even both. Decoy good for escaping cause of stealth also.

Now. The combo , roughly goes as follows. pistol/sword out. 4, 5,dodge,3,3, f1,f3 (as default binds).
So, phantasm dueler, stun, dodge(generates2ndclone). 3,3, summons clone charges you at him, and then f1 for shatter, f3 for daze.
You can use the dodge kinda anywhere, 4,5,3,dodge,3,f1,f2

I recommend praticing on the target dummies in hotm till you get it down. Also this allows you to solo svainir and chieftain easily.

Hope that helps.

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Posted by: Jasher.6580

Jasher.6580

How would you guys rate the Sceptre/Pistol, Staff condition build? I tried out the shatter build last night and I felt like I was a lot more effective with the condition build. Maybe I just need to get better with the shatter build?

What are your views?

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Posted by: Nero.8623

Nero.8623

Never use scepter if you’re serious about pvp. Ever.

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Posted by: Gaiawolf.8261

Gaiawolf.8261

Scepter can be OK in niche situations, but in almost all cases it is outclassed by the MH sword or staff for any real purpose it can serve.

Scepter’s best use is usually only for confusion spikes in a CD build, but staff is the superior CD weapon, so it will most likely be your primary in such a setup. Which means your secondary should give you utility, and that means sword is usually better, espcially since most CD builds shatter or not work great with Dueling.

Not that scepter can’t find a home; it’s just that most builds will be better with a staff/sword except for occasional confusion bombs.

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Posted by: Nero.8623

Nero.8623

Sorry, but scepter is simply too slow and clunky to fit into the game. It shouldn’t be used in any spec and at even low-mid tier of PvP it becomes glaringly obvious that it is in no way currently viable.

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Posted by: Wise.8025

Wise.8025

How would you guys rate the Sceptre/Pistol, Staff condition build? I tried out the shatter build last night and I felt like I was a lot more effective with the condition build. Maybe I just need to get better with the shatter build?

What are your views?

It’s really about play style. You may be more familiar with your condi build. I know I’m more familiar with my shatter build.

Sceptre 1 is actually on par for damage output with sword people do seem to love the blurred frenzy though as part of their combo because of the additional survivability it gives. Sceptre 2 is really only defense against a single attack.

The problem I find with the mesmer condi builds is that they’re so weak in comparison to nearly every other classes condi specs plus our power/crit shatter build manages to retain a lot of survivability. If there were some aspect of mesmer condi builds that prevented people from just running away it would be far more worthwhile.

Immobilize is one of the strongest conditions in the game if not the most game changing in pvp, and sword MH gives us that.

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Posted by: grimmson.9154

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it is sad but scepter is just crap in tpvp. it is impossible to land confusing images and the block is is very lacking with condition spec. autoattack I don’t even want to start….

in wvw it is a fun weapon but even there If im serious I go with sword :\

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Posted by: Divinity.8041

Divinity.8041

Tried shatter and phantasm, and IMO phantasm/legion for spvp. I currently play legion build. Google taugrim legion build. Shatter is too squishy for hotjoin spvp IMO. You get kitten by rogues, unless you run with a team that coordinates bursts and boons. Also IMO legion is best 1v1 spec for Mesmer period.

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Posted by: Daishi.6027

Daishi.6027

Tried shatter and phantasm, and IMO phantasm/legion for spvp. I currently play legion build. Google taugrim legion build. Shatter is too squishy for hotjoin spvp IMO. You get kitten by rogues, unless you run with a team that coordinates bursts and boons. Also IMO legion is best 1v1 spec for Mesmer period.

IMHO Phant builds are to easy, and really take no skill. You pop your phants and kite for days maybe go invis with very little counter, and if you have a counter build majority of the time it’s a hard counter that is barely viable in other areas.

I refuse to play phant 1v1 because it’s just unfair.

I get that this game is not based around 1v1 so it’s fine to have in the game I’m not gonna “QQ” to remove it or nerf it (though they already started to hence Illusionary Membrane) but I think anyone who duels with it is a strait up coward and hurts the spirit of a skill based game.

to amend my statement – It is not to say Phant builds cannot be countered 1v1 with a lot of builds but a vaster majority of the things that phant will counter vs what will counter phant is a little high. That is also to say I don’t think everyone should just instantly run shatter for duels but I do wish there was some more middle ground with this class.

^Guess who’s getting flamed for this post xD

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Posted by: Divinity.8041

Divinity.8041

I started as a legion. Went with shatter because legion was too ez mode… Learned how to really play a Mesmer. Went back to legion and really just lost burst, but became nearly a god 1v1 because of my new skills.

I agree that phantasm in spvp can be ezmode because you just summon them and kite…but I never fear roaming around..ever. It’s a good class for 1v1, maybe the best actually.

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