Why do Mesmer illusions disappear so quickly?

Why do Mesmer illusions disappear so quickly?

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Posted by: Projectseph.2670

Projectseph.2670

I am new to GW2, and Initially did enjoy the “concept” of the Mesmer class.
Seemed the most unique.

What I am finding (frustratingly so,) is that the illusions/phantasms/clones (etc) I summon are disappearing so quickly, as it seems they leave after killing their target minion.

This is frustrating in a fight where 6 or 7 mobs are nearby and you use an illusion ability..only for that mob to die quickly, then you are left without the illusions ..

I kind of had the impression that they would persist until you were out of combat/they died/you used shatter.

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Posted by: Eponet.4829

Eponet.4829

Mesmer illusions are weird.

I think the justification is that they’re projected directly into the mind of the target, hence why phantasm summons can miss, thus, when the mind they’re contained within dies, they no longer exist.

But… they can also be seen and attacked by enemies other than their targeted foe, and the illusory berserker and warden deal AoE damage, while the warden literally reflects projectiles.

So… I have no idea what’s up with them.

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

Rofl, its funny seeing a long standing Anet fail in PvE in action with a complete newbie.

Veterans have lived with this so long it just doesn’t have the same impact.

Anyway, the trick is to cluster them togeather and summon aoe phants on them, then shatter before the target mob dies for some aoe damage. Try using a focus, use the 4 curtain to pull the mobs while summoning the 5 phantasm, pull them against a wall etc for good cluster effect. Sword blurred frenzy, and/or swap to GS for an iZerker etc.

FYI, Mesmer will suck until you’ve unlocked all your trait lines etc.

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Posted by: Eponet.4829

Eponet.4829

FYI, Mesmer will suck until you’ve unlocked all your trait lines etc.

Ehh, shatter builds do okay with just dueling in standard PvE. Open world enemies tend to die quickly enough that the lack of sustained damage isn’t a problem unless you’re soloing champions.

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Posted by: Projectseph.2670

Projectseph.2670

What about WvW pvp?

I’m guessing that the fact illusions disappear when the target dies doesn’t create as much of an issue due to the fact that other players wont die as quickly as a run-of-the-mill mob?

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Posted by: Fay.2357

Fay.2357

What about WvW pvp?

I’m guessing that the fact illusions disappear when the target dies doesn’t create as much of an issue due to the fact that other players wont die as quickly as a run-of-the-mill mob?

You’re correct, they don’t have that problem there.

No, in WvW and PvP group fights they’re close to unusable for entirely unrelated reasons -_-. They’re so low on health that any sort of aoe pressure smushes them instantly.

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Posted by: Ross Biddle.2367

Ross Biddle.2367

What about WvW pvp?

I’m guessing that the fact illusions disappear when the target dies doesn’t create as much of an issue due to the fact that other players wont die as quickly as a run-of-the-mill mob?

You’re correct, they don’t have that problem there.

No, in WvW and PvP group fights they’re close to unusable for entirely unrelated reasons -_-. They’re so low on health that any sort of aoe pressure smushes them instantly.

They can also be kited relentlessly by highly mobile opponents xD

When Hot releases, Chronomancer will get wells and a shield to beat on the enemy with in large scale fights.

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Posted by: Eponet.4829

Eponet.4829

What about WvW pvp?

I’m guessing that the fact illusions disappear when the target dies doesn’t create as much of an issue due to the fact that other players wont die as quickly as a run-of-the-mill mob?

You’re correct, they don’t have that problem there.

No, in WvW and PvP group fights they’re close to unusable for entirely unrelated reasons -_-. They’re so low on health that any sort of aoe pressure smushes them instantly.

They can also be kited relentlessly by highly mobile opponents xD

When Hot releases, Chronomancer will get wells and a shield to beat on the enemy with in large scale fights.

and super speed illusions for the kiting issue

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Posted by: curtegg.5216

curtegg.5216

You can trait for more “initial robustness” in your illusions and that is only for certain situations (like vet karka farming). But most situations illusions are shatter fodder and you can consider yourself lucky if they get one attack off.