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Posted by: kylia.4813

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Blind on glamour trait actually only occurs when you first place the glamour. You get 1 hit of blindness this way. With the confusion on blind trait, this provides 1 stack of confusion for 5 seconds. The confusion on glamour fields trait causes 1 stack of 4s confusion every time someone enters or exits the area. These effects are applied independently of one another.

Thought that confusion on glamour trait caused 5 secs of confusion. So what you’re saying is having both traited to confuse would cause 9 seconds of confusion? I played glamour mesmer using kylia’s build for a while but that’s been a long time ago, it doesn’t seem like I remember people getting confusion lasting that long.

I’ll get the maths out later but my avg confusion tick is around the 7sec mark

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Posted by: kylia.4813

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Where is that kitten ‘LIKE’ button when it would once be usefull …

Great infos guys! You just made my day by giving me a ton of new input to think about for my glamour build

One question though:
How much condition damage do I have to stack to be effective with this? Cause full Carrion + Berserker leaves you with almost no passive defines …
And is it compulsory to go into Duelling rather than Inspiration for the cd reduction?
@playandchill you said you would loose too much crit + crit damage. But Confusion cant Crit anyway, right?

-Conditions do not crit.
- length of confusion > confusion damage. (As per the spreadsheet 10% length is worth 150-200 condition damage
- not essential to go into dueling, but then your in a diff Glam build

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Posted by: Kazhiel.8194

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- length of confusion > confusion damage. (As per the spreadsheet 10% length is worth 150-200 condition damage

Yeah, this, which was why I was thinking it might be better in the long run to leave off the glamours cause blind but keep the blind causes confusion and use it with scepter and torch and basically extend the total amount of time during a fight that you can keep the enemy confused. Then use the other trait points to either pick up phantasm damage or de. I’ll do some testing with it tonight when I have a chance to play and then I’ll make a new thread so we quit cluttering play’s build thread with other theory crafting xD

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Posted by: Moxtidus.4576

Moxtidus.4576

Hey Lani !

I really need a nice glamour build with greatsword beeing usefull as damage dealer. I found your build on google lol.

I still need to buy some jewellry (thanks to you i have -25g ^^) and i ll test it and give you feedback asap.

Did you try other gear combo? Asking this before i buy more.

Sfr

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Posted by: playandchill.3908

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@mox

Yeah stick with carrion/berz for the moment. I ’m still testing jewllery combo but i dont feel any big noticeable improvement.

You ll love it.

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Posted by: RapidSausage.4620

RapidSausage.4620

@OP: i had thought of utilizing glamour skills like that before, but i find that berserker equipment is unnecessary, you can go full rabid and replace the GS with Scepter and focus, temporal curtain is an incredibly useful and versatile skill, and scepter #3 is great for single target damage spike, and would be even more awesome when combined with full gear CD.

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Posted by: playandchill.3908

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Month ago I went full rabid scepter + focus with a pure confusion galmour build. It’s a strong antiZerg build and good 1v1 (versus bad players tho).

But i was a bit bored by dealing confusion damages only. In some situation confusion build really sucks.

I love playing with Gs as a mesmer because of AOE potential. Thats why i made this build.

When i need focus, i just manually switch to it

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Posted by: RapidSausage.4620

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Month ago I went full rabid scepter + focus with a pure confusion galmour build. It’s a strong antiZerg build and good 1v1 (versus bad players tho).

But i was a bit bored by dealing confusion damages only. In some situation confusion build really sucks.

I love playing with Gs as a mesmer because of AOE potential. Thats why i made this build.

When i need focus, i just manually switch to it

with rampager gear you can go with OP’s build AND use a GS and be really effective in zergs and 1v1.

you can ever take scepter and TORCH if you have full centaur runes (with mirror heal you can keep swiftness up 73% of the time (i did the math)).

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Posted by: ManCaptain.3154

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Every single one braindead tryhard WvW mesmer has come up with this same build. It’s nothing new. It just a way to incorporate some additional damage into the brain-dead glamour wvw mesmer. In reality it’s an extremely obvious and dumb build. Yes, let’s use 90 sec recharge veil (a line) to inflict confusion. What could go wrong?

You see enemies entering your glamours (like veil) don’t get blinded and don’t get confusion, they only get it if you cast it on them. And if you cast the glamour on them, they don’t count as entering the glamour, so you don’t get a confusion from that.

Also the OP proclaims this build to be “good in small battles and 1v1”. It’s not. Not even close. No stun breakers, no illusionary persona, one huge recharge invis. You’ll get killed by any half-competent 1v1 player (e.g. me).

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Posted by: Moxtidus.4576

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I spent the last two nights testing it with everything you recommended, here come my review.

PROS :

- Insane badges farming build. Made 135 the first night and 160 last night( 3hours of play) by melting zerg while beeing in a 5 man party. The best farming build i’ve ever tried as a mesmer.

-It’s very well balanced between zerg gameplay and roaming gameplay as confusion is not a big deal with Pve Vets, GS with berz gear helps a lot taking them down (Especially dolyak lol).

-You feel very usefull at any time even if you use a GS !!!

-It somehow gives nice support to your allies (Feedback/Nullfield/Veil/Mass Blinding)

- Carrion helps a lot surviving in mellee train and that extra life saved my 25xStacks many times.

- So much fun throwing you glam skill in front of a Zerg.

CONS :

- If Anet nerf foods in WvW (the one with 40% cond duration), this build is destroyed.

- I have trouble dueling good thief as you cant pop 2 clones +Blink and shatter with Illusionary Persona = Thief dead. I need to make a perfect timing of my glam skill to take them down. 1v1 is not that good tbh. Especially against players who only do 1v1 in WvW lol. This build is about AOE, not really OP for 1v1

- I think you can remove sigil of fire because we can tag enough ennemies with this build. Take something else instead. Something that could help in 1v1 would be really nice.

-Indeed it really sucks in Pve

To conclude im gonna stick with this build just because i love to be that usefull in WvW and i really have some fun with it ( and i love badges… ) before it’s nerfed hard.

Thank you !

Sfr

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Posted by: RapidSausage.4620

RapidSausage.4620

Here’s what i use for all the whiners:

-Super veggie pizza (36% increased condition duration at 1/4 of the price of rare veggie pizza).
-Feedback and Null field traited for cooldown and duration, Mirror images, mirror heal, mass invisibility.
-20/0/0/20/30, all confusion and blind related traits.
-Scepter/torch and staff.
-full Rampager.

i use staff for AOE support along with the glamours, and escapes, plus pink bubble is awesome and applies both blind and confusion which synergize very well with the build.

scepter and torch for single target and PbAoe blind and escape.

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Posted by: playandchill.3908

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I spent the last two nights testing it with everything you recommended, here come my review.

PROS :

- Insane badges farming build. Made 135 the first night and 160 last night( 3hours of play) by melting zerg while beeing in a 5 man party. The best farming build i’ve ever tried as a mesmer.

-It’s very well balanced between zerg gameplay and roaming gameplay as confusion is not a big deal with Pve Vets, GS with berz gear helps a lot taking them down (Especially dolyak lol).

-You feel very usefull at any time even if you use a GS !!!

-It somehow gives nice support to your allies (Feedback/Nullfield/Veil/Mass Blinding)

- Carrion helps a lot surviving in mellee train and that extra life saved my 25xStacks many times.

- So much fun throwing you glam skill in front of a Zerg.

CONS :

- If Anet nerf foods in WvW (the one with 40% cond duration), this build is destroyed.

- I have trouble dueling good thief as you cant pop 2 clones +Blink and shatter with Illusionary Persona = Thief dead. I need to make a perfect timing of my glam skill to take them down. 1v1 is not that good tbh. Especially against players who only do 1v1 in WvW lol. This build is about AOE, not really OP for 1v1

- I think you can remove sigil of fire because we can tag enough ennemies with this build. Take something else instead. Something that could help in 1v1 would be really nice.

-Indeed it really sucks in Pve

To conclude im gonna stick with this build just because i love to be that usefull in WvW and i really have some fun with it ( and i love badges… ) before it’s nerfed hard.

Thank you !

Really appreciate your feedback. I’m glad you like it! So you ll be able to use your so kewl gs actually xD

Regarding 1v1 i have tons of negative feeback, too bad. Swaping sigil is a good idea tho(Maybe Air runes, i dunno), ll make some test and until i found a fix for 1v1 i ll change the descirption of the build. At the very beginning i was using blink instead of veil, it really helped. Now we do not use it anymore the build is quite weak in 1v1, that’s true.

I dont think it ll be nerfed. Precast Izerker +Blink+Mirror Images+ Shatter( With Illusionary Persona) with full berz gear is the most OP burst of the game. ! One shooting 3 players in 1,5 sec. That IS gonna be nerfed for sure xD.

@Rapid: Remember that playing with GS is one of my objective. It’s really hard to drop the staff for Scepter+torch. Staff is amazing .Thanks for the pizza tip tho.

You see enemies entering your glamours (like veil) don’t get blinded and don’t get confusion, they only get it if you cast it on them. And if you cast the glamour on them, they don’t count as entering the glamour, so you don’t get a confusion from that.

I’m affraid you dont know how it works and miss the whole purpose of this build as you said that enemies dont have confusion stack when they enter in glam zones. You are wrong.

If you cast veil and your enemy run through it, he ll have 1(enter) +1(exit) confusion stacks . Confusing enchant(VIII) Glamours skill cause confusion to foes who enter/exit target aera.

This is why this build is insane against running Zerg.

Now if you cast veil ON him , he will instant have 1 Confusion Stack + Blind and get ANOTHER confusion stack if he quits the veil line.

Im in game testing it right now, this is how it works. Im quite embarrassed that a “half-competent 1v1 player” like you does not see the purpose of this build. I ll try to explain it better in the build description.

Edit : Now tested with all glam skills

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Posted by: kylia.4813

kylia.4813

Veil run through stacks 3 stacks of confusion if done correctly

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Posted by: Shard.4167

Shard.4167

How can you get 3stacks / glamour field?
All i ever get is 1 =(

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Posted by: kylia.4813

kylia.4813

How can you get 3stacks / glamour field?
All i ever get is 1 =(

Theres a video on my channel that shows how to do it

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Posted by: Aberrant.6749

Aberrant.6749

I started running this a while ago because I normally run a 20/20/0/0/30 shatter build and saw I could flip traits around to become glam.

I use a staff/scepter + focus

It’s not as good as a pure glam for large zerg vs zerg fights since the clones just insta die. It’s better than trying to be a shatter for ZvZ though… and better than full on glam in skirmish fights as you can use your shatters more often.

Get some clones up, start a shatter, then use the focus to pull people into a field/knock them down, scepter #3. Time it right and it’s a good burst of 13-14 stacks of confusion while they are down.

iWarden in a ethereal field = confusing bolts pew pew out in random directions (it’s a whirl finisher).

Use the fields to give yourself chaos armor as much as you can in smaller fights and try to get a few to attack you. The confusion on blind causes the chaos armor to give confusion 66% of the time you are hit.

Scepter #2’s blind also will cause a stack of confusion.

About glam in general… in TC we some times fight a guild that has a lot of glam mesmers… it doesn’t work that well to have a lot on one side. Unless you auto attack yourselves to death the damage is really low… plus the confusion is easily removed (as there aren’t many other conditions flying around). Glam seems to work better if it’s done by only a few so that there are other conditions on them and more are forced to attack/defend against the tanky/high dps types who are pressuring them while having confusion on them.

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Posted by: Cempa.5619

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