Commander Ascii :: Tempest Wolves [TW] :: Sanctum of Rall :: Best Necromancer NA
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Been farming this for over a day now and I thought its time to share the goodness for all Necromancers what with everyone complaining the Crown Pavilion is impossibru for Necros because of our lack of everything.
How to Play
Select the following gambits;
Entry costs 5 tickets (which has a total cost of 29.75s (with Sprockets marked @ 65c each, the cheaper they are the cheaper this cost is).)
Winning will award you 5 resplendent watchwork box which give 8s – 12s each & 4 – 6 Sprockets each. This is an average of 53.25s from all 5 which is a profit of 23.5 silver every attempt.
You can fit 1 fight in per minute and will award 14.1g every hour with additional loots from the chest not included (these include skins, lodestones and portal devices).
The above has since been nurfed, so follow this guide please:
30/30/x/x/x – 100% condition duration – rabid/ carrion.
Make sure to Signet of Spite first for the blind, then Blood is Power followed by Deathly Swarm. Use Scepter 2 and Dagger 5 but watch for the killshot if he didnt use it as his first move. Use DS-3 to fear him our of the killshot.
He will then teleport behind you, drop Well of Darkness, Heal and proceed to auto attack & scepter 2 to death. Sometimes he will teleport again and down you, but the bleeds will always kill him before you die.
It costs 32.64s (24s + 18 sprockets @ 8.64s) per attempt, and rewards 74.4s (60s + 30 sprockets @ 14.4s) on average, giving a total profit of 41.76s per win.
Total profit per hour should be around 25g or 27g if you sell your sprockets @ 58c each. Then throw in perks like charged lodestones (roughly 1/250 chance) and weapon skins.
Farm away before ANet nurfs me again!
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I’ll try some Gambit when I get home. Wasn’t feeling too well the last two days and didn’t try gambit. It would be an interesting way to farm. How much bonus does each give you?
The returns are always the same, speaking on averages;
1 ticket (no gambits) gives 1 resplendent watchwork box.
2 tickets (1 gambit) gives 2 resplendent watchwork boxes.
3 tickets (2 gambits) gives 3 resplendent watchwork boxes.
1 tickets average cost is 5.95 silver, and 1 resplendent watchwork box is worth 13.25 silver. When gambling 5 tickets at a time you start to make some very good profit margins for simple work.
I can see why Subject 7 is a good choice for a condi necro but I had a far easier time with Dunwall. It’s abit luck-based though and not too consistent. Also for that I took recieve/deal damage gambits.
Also, not sure if I’m looking at the right thing on the TP, but Resplendent Boxes are now like 5s, and were even lower last night I think. Parallel with this, the average ticket’s cost is now about 7s from current Sprocket TP prices.
I think the best way to make a profit off this is just to use the Gauntlet tickets you get by general day-to-day gameplay, because you have no other choice for that.
The ones from the Gauntlet are rare versions and non-tradable. As you can see from the end of my video when i open my stacks i receive 8 – 12s & 4 – 6 sprockets (which im selling for 90c each) per chest, totaling 14.5s per chest on average (and thats not including lodestones, exotics and skins).
Dunwall would die slightly quicker but being one hit costs you 5 tickets. Speed isn’t a issue too, i tend to kill Subject 7 so fast i have to wait for my rotations to come up before re-entering.
I wish I could tolerate killing the same thing over and over, or farming in general in this game. I guess that’s probably why I always have less than 100g. Back in the day, I could farm for hours when a rare drop was involved, but the volume farm of GW2 just doesn’t hold my attention.
Nice vid though Ascii. Thanks for sharing.
For those that dont have condition gear for some reason/have a hybrid glass cannot as their condi setup, going the typical minion 20/0/30/20/0 build with Blood, Bone, Bone, Shadow, Golem will kill it while you pretty much afk attack Subject 7.
i only win about 50% of the time using this : [
If you are out of combat by the end, then your pet doesn’t die when you port. It helps to get rid of conditions right when you win. Also, sometimes the quaggan will disappear in the beginning. Having a target on main ooze helps a lot. Ultimate doesn’t matter, as long as you get 1-2 epi off then you are gold.
If you follow Ascii’s rotation, it might just seem like he’s using everything, but his melting is alongside fears coincides with the slimes coming in. I failed 20-30% of the time at first too, and realized I just need to space things apart a little better to make sure at that crucial 20-25% stage that he is super far away from any other oozes to burst him down.
Being near oozes doesn’t give him regen per se, it allows the small oozes to throw him a significant heal on a moderate CD. That’s why, when you’re a little unlucky, he can go back up to 50% HP and other times get wiped almost immediately.
Your Fear Mark is super important for this, make sure you’re standing point blank to Subject 7, and have a good few oozes at your back, this way when you land the mark, the mini-oozes will be fear one way, while 7 is fear the other, with as few oozes as possible going his way.
I don’t think I have the attention span for stuff like this to do it perfectly for an hour or more to maximize returns so it’s a bit risky for me for monies but it’s alot of fun. I don’t know what build exactly the OP optimized for this but 30/20/0/0/20 standard rabid burning terror condimancer (with new confusion runes instead) is able to do this the majority of the time (don’t forget to use food !).
I did the achievement with a MM build and continued farming for a bit till I got bored…does the squeamish gambit reduce condi damage tho ?
Just tried this out
30/20/0/0/20
Stack 3 might on signet use, shummfire, Marks do 10% more damage
Weakening shroud, terror
Master of terror, and i chose vital persistence, but it could be anything
I even messed up the rotation and won. (even though i went downed, thankl you epidemic)
I do sometimes go down when i don’t get the staff Fear off (you want to try to land it as Subject 7 drops below 20%) but Epidemic always rallies me and then ill drop another Epidemic off and win.
I do sometimes go down when i don’t get the staff Fear off (you want to try to land it as Subject 7 drops below 20%) but Epidemic always rallies me and then ill drop another Epidemic off and win.
Ive went down almost all my fights so far and i just get really lucky in downed state.
How are people doing the 5 gambit achieve with minions? I tried that and just get nuked everytime. Doesnt matter if I cc subject 7 away from the oozes, minions dont kill him fast enough and the oozes kitten necro DS and hp.
I also tried doing it with this condi rotation. Cant survive long enough. I guess it might be because the oozes dont seem to spawn in places where i can keep them off sub 7 easily and i dont have condi jewelry.
honestly, dont blame the build, blame yourself. i jsut did it 10 times in a row without dieing. Ya i went down, but im less tanky. Its easy once you perfect the rotation
honestly, dont blame the build, blame yourself. i jsut did it 10 times in a row without dieing. Ya i went down, but im less tanky. Its easy once you perfect the rotation
Im not blaming the build, im blaming my gear and myself. The rotation isnt strong enough in my case because I havent wasted my time getting condi gear.
How are people doing the 5 gambit achieve with minions? I tried that and just get nuked everytime. Doesnt matter if I cc subject 7 away from the oozes, minions dont kill him fast enough and the oozes kitten necro DS and hp.
I also tried doing it with this condi rotation. Cant survive long enough. I guess it might be because the oozes dont seem to spawn in places where i can keep them off sub 7 easily and i dont have condi jewelry.
Whilst I’ve not actually completed the 5 gambit one yet I’ve had more luck with it on Deadeye Dunwell.
I went with a 30/0/20/20/0 build, full zerker gear. Staff and Dagger/Focus.
5 minions.
3 gambits, no issue just whack away with dagger and dodge kill shots.
5 gambits you need to be dead on with your fears/golem KD to interrupt the kill shot and use Dark Path to stay on top of him when you want to melee. I tried about 5-6 times and best attempt was around 15% hp left.
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I havent wasted my time getting condi gear.
Just gonna quote that a necromancer just said this
For MM you need the minion traits, blood magic minions siphon health etc get dagger/focus and staff some food etc was easy.
i usually do this with the standard 30/20/0/0/20-build. in the beginning it was a bit difficult to get the fears right but then it worked very well.
but now, for some reason, my golem always dies when i get ported out of the arena. when subject 7 dies, die golem is usually at full health and the quaggan is still alive; then, a second or two after i left the arena, the golem goes on cooldown
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I havent wasted my time getting condi gear.
Just gonna quote that a necromancer just said this
I run dungeons so i either run zerker or not at all. I have various sets on my necro but its only the armour, no condi jewelry or anything.
Did anyone else notice the nerf on the bags? only giving like 2 to 3 silver instead of the usual 10 to 11 silver?
Patch notes just in mention Sub7 reward got lowered.
But I’m farmin Dead Eye so much better/faster anyway
Takes about 15secs. Much less stress involved. [On Fire / Exhausted / Frailty / Squeamish]
I get 8sto11s per bag from dead eye post patch
Condimancer 30 IV IX XI / 20 II IX / 0 / 0 / 20 III IX
Rabid exotic armor + Perplexity rune set
Scepter (earth) / Dagger (agony) + Scepter (corruption) / Warhorn (corruption)
CC + SoS + BiP + SG / golem
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TW, such PVE care bears these days!!!!! All the wvw glory is already stolen!
Srsly, thanks for this method. I got the hang of it and it is profitable. I can’t commit for hours on end, but it is very nice. In would have never even dreamed of it on my own.
Yep, farming dead-eye right now.
Get weakness on him asap with Dagger 5, then nuke and use Spectral Grasp when he channels his oneshot.
Doing 4x gambit on 7 as mm was the best thing ever. But like I told everyone in guild today early morning… it was going to get nerfed.
Deadeye as mm… screw that. And screw anet.
With these clowns would fix the kittening bugs instead of nerfing and nerfing and nerfing AND MORE NERFING. I decided to stop and go see balloons and champions… yeah… as if infinite ques/left over mobs… and bazillion other bugs in gauntlet wast enough, first thing happen 1 balloon chest doesnt work. Champion is stuck… ……….. ……… again screw anet.
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Dead-eye is still an easy gauntlet to do with 4 gambits just get the weakness on him and pay attention to the killshot, I’ve gone down acouple times since starting and the fear + condition damage ticking away is enough to finish him off.
Seen as its only a matter of time before they nurf this dude too, heres the build i use;
Dead-eye is still an easy gauntlet to do with 4 gambits just get the weakness on him and pay attention to the killshot, I’ve gone down acouple times since starting and the fear + condition damage ticking away is enough to finish him off.
Seen as its only a matter of time before they nurf this dude too, heres the build i use;
I dislike conditions period. I already hated it enough when I had to switch for liari. If it wasn’t a gimmicy mechanic to begin with… would be one thing. But constantly respecing and switching gear just so I can do something is idiotic at best. Doing pavilion as condition is insulting. In a span of 1 boss fight doing MAAAAAAAYBE 30k dmg is pitiful. And it all comes from specter 3, autoattacks and some staff marks.
Dead-eye is still an easy gauntlet to do with 4 gambits just get the weakness on him and pay attention to the killshot, I’ve gone down acouple times since starting and the fear + condition damage ticking away is enough to finish him off.
Seen as its only a matter of time before they nurf this dude too, heres the build i use;
I dislike conditions period. I already hated it enough when I had to switch for liari. If it wasn’t a gimmicy mechanic to begin with… would be one thing. But constantly respecing and switching gear just so I can do something is idiotic at best. Doing pavilion as condition is insulting. In a span of 1 boss fight doing MAAAAAAAYBE 30k dmg is pitiful. And it all comes from specter 3, autoattacks and some staff marks.
I only knew and played as power zerk necro, but for liadri and some gambits I finally went and got myself rabid stuff. It’s still my 2nd day as condimancer, but I gotta say seeing Epidemic in the grouped pavilion is fun. Load up on 25 corruption stacks fast and goin back to arena farmin
RIP Ascii farm. You got patched bro.
RIP Ascii farm. You got patched bro.
Read the other posts its still doable with Dead-eye, just need Grasp instead of Epidemic.
I don’t get it, it’s ok for Necro to be uniquely disadvantaged in a fight like Liandri, but in something that favors us, like this, nerf immediately. Typical. And I’m sure the alternate will also now get nerfed.
Mesmer can easily kill Deadeye with 5 gambits and our farming gets nerfed because can beat subject with 4 gambits, nonsense. Anyway I can beat Deadeye with fire, crippled and no dodge gambits. Which is the 4th you are talking about?
I’m done with all the achieves (Liadri 8 incl), gonna farm Dead Eye allll day till it gets subjected.
Condition style I can still kill Dead Eye if he uses Kill shot on his middle starting point, so it’s pretty fool proof. But I’m wondering if power would kill him faster or just as safely. I kinda wanna find the sweet spot where I will never lose either my bloodlust stacks or my corruption ^^
I find spectral grasp extremely slow and buggy so I switched in targetable wells and well of darkness. Dagger 5 and WoD when he’s mid, nuke him with spite, blood is power, scepter auto ..when he teleports and killshots I use DS fear and flesh golem knock down when available and he should be dead, always got dagger #4 blind or staff fear as back up.
I hate how very rarely killshot even hits when he’s blinded, and I blinded him before he even started the animation… soo buggy…
One time I killed him with 1 scepter auto as well, that was great.
And now I entered the arena yet there was no boss to be seen but lots of mines.
Never seen anythign this buggy before.
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So which gambits are you using?
For those that dont have condition gear for some reason/have a hybrid glass cannot as their condi setup, going the typical minion 20/0/30/20/0 build with Blood, Bone, Bone, Shadow, Golem will kill it while you pretty much afk attack Subject 7.
Hmm could you tell me what traits you used? I am running hybrid currently and tried this couple of times, but I never got its hp below 50%.
For those that dont have condition gear for some reason/have a hybrid glass cannot as their condi setup, going the typical minion 20/0/30/20/0 build with Blood, Bone, Bone, Shadow, Golem will kill it while you pretty much afk attack Subject 7.
Hmm could you tell me what traits you used? I am running hybrid currently and tried this couple of times, but I never got its hp below 50%.
If you mean Subject 7, i think it should be pretty obvious in case of the mm build, its (skill that was awesome and the trait doesnt deserve the name) Spiteful Spirit, Training of the Master, Minion Master, Flesh of the Master, Death Nova, (optional mark of evasion or) Bloodthirst, Vampiric Master.
At the start if you have s/d you really wanna get the poison on the enemy (just chain attacks till he is around 60%, ignore the usual urge to cast 2 and 5), if on axe a putrid explosion (bone minion summoned skill) is gonna help a lot in that case when combined with Axe 2. At around 60% you wanna be on staff and have at least 10% DS to fear away the ooze to the edge of the arena, resummon bone minions if you used another explosion for the poison and then use golem charge when 7 is at the wall for massive damage and cc, using the other 2 actives can help too, then obviously a DP and TS so that you can skip the ooze (with correct positioning or just dodge into it if you dont have gambits on) and burst it down, if you somehow get downed/are really unlucky with where the ooze spawn and they dont hit the minions, by the time that happens you should have 7 to less than 5% and a fear into putrid will finish him off.
Shadowfiend blind delay is complete BS. I normally play wells, respecced MM for obvious reasons for Deadeye. I never knew this skill took so long to activate. How can a reactive blind be in any way useful when there’s a ~2 second delay before it takes effect?
Heres a vid of how to farm Deadeye, its actually much easier and earns more too as you can 5 gambit him.
Your almost always going to go down but the bleed ticks will always kill him before your finished off. Pick all gambits but crowd favorite.
It seems like its just me, but I feel like I’ll do these rotations and they work sometimes and dont others even though im doing the same thing
I could do deadeye with all 6 gambits in sub 40 seconds full rotation but unfortunately it only counts 5 of them so its not as profitable. Still good as hell and it will get nerfed quickly.
I reckon i could do a 6 gambit farm too, but it only allows 5 gambits max (choosing a 6th overrides a previous gambit).
Still you can farm him at the same speed as the ooze and at 1 gambit more per turn. It costs 32.64s (24s + 18 sprockets @ 8.64s) per attempt, and rewards 74.4s (60s + 30 sprockets @ 14.4s) on average, giving a total profit of 41.76s per win.
Total profit per hour should be around 25g or 27g if you sell your sprockets @ 58c each. Then throw in perks like charged lodestones (roughly 1/250 chance) and weapon skins.
I’ve updated the OP with the new guide and info for Crowd Pavilion farming, enjoy!
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Alternate rotation. I have a typical Burning/MoT build, but with some tankier gear and also very doable opening up with a golem charge, popping spectral armor after your blind, he usually dies without me even getting downed. If your golem dies, 10-15 sec extra wait though.
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Heres a vid of how to farm Deadeye, its actually much easier and earns more too as you can 5 gambit him.
Your almost always going to go down but the bleed ticks will always kill him before your finished off. Pick all gambits but crowd favorite.
you’re probably the un-necro-iest looking necro ive ever seen.
A Deadeye nerf might be coming soon… =( because some people are complaining that they can’t farm it and is unfair. Just a heads up guys to farm him as much as possible. I found that laying down staff marks below your character before attacking him and then switching to scepter/dagger with Ascii’s rotation really helps as well. I’m only doing 4 gambits though and leaving out the squeamish gambit gives a me 100% win rate.
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Also note that this isn’t just for the super exotic/ ascended geared people, a friend of mine has been farming in full rares with 4 gambits.
This is great. I’m using different gambits and different rotation. It’s super safe also. I just hope it won’t get nerf because I didn’t do many runs yet.
btw, does deadeye have some sort of condition cleanse?
i noticed that sometimes, when he has 20+ bleed stacks and low HP, the bleed stacks vanish when tainted shackles goes off.
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