Guild Wars 2

I been finding this very annoying from a design standpoint. Maybe its just me…

We have several dark fields (almost all wells along with PL)

RS4 is a strong whirl finisher but is pointless on dark fields since those siphons do not work in shroud.

I think all siphons should be allowed in shroud. It’s a minor buff, it adds consistency, and it allows us to actually benefit from our own dark fields.

There are siphon effects on runes as well which of course do not work through shroud. This is a real issue imo. You’re pretty much taking the chance of forfeiting a simple on-damaged siphon while being in shroud. Not very cool at all.

On another topic…

Unholy Sanctuary isn’t that great. I mean sure it would be appealing if not for CF being a better grab. US is just regeneration in shroud. If anything, thats a blood magic master trait.

I’d remove the second effect (auto shroud on low health) and just swap it with the warhorn master trait. Death magic doesn’t have a weapon trait and warhorn seems very fitting.

You would also have to buffs Banshees Wail. It would also be our only other GM weapon trait. The buff could be an interesting effect like a knockback or our cripples add a stack of poison. (gotta get dem poisonz in)

I like unholy sanctuary because I wvw a lot and it keeps me alive through unforseen nukes.

The genuine lack of non trait life stealing in shroud is regrettable, though. I’d like to be able to use sigil of blood and leeching in shroud.

Well… that’s the shroud for you…

It took us 3 years to have the positive effect of our blood magic traits work while in shroud, maybe the combo effects will be available in 2 more years.

On another note, the limitations specific to the shroud are good material for elite spec traits. Like :

Darkness themed e-spec :
Dark force : combos in a dark field grant you life force.

Regeneration themed e-spec :
Living dead : regeneration heal you through shroud.

All purpose e-spec :
Corrupted life : Incoming heal while in shroud grant you a small amount of life force instead.

Easy traits, without that much of an impact ingame like that, are most likely a godsend for devs that don’t want to crumble the wole balance of the game. Even I as a player would want to see this kind of traits in game. For example, corrupted life would be awesome if it were te replace vital persistence. Heck! Just them replacing the degen decrease by the effect of corrupted life would satisfy me.

Agree with the “other topic”. I’d be satisfied with some AoE prot effect on WH skill use.

I am pretty sure that at on point the siphons from dark fields worked in shroud. If it still the case i dont know but i remember testing it a long time ago.

However you are correct that siphons from items dont work in shroud (runes, food, sigils etc.).

They specifically patched the leeching bolts caused by whirl finishers to apply healing through shroud. This was done in January of 2016.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/updates/Game-Update-Notes-January-26-2016/first
(scroll to the necromancer section on the first post)

Muchacho.2390:

I am pretty sure that at on point the siphons from dark fields worked in shroud. If it still the case i dont know but i remember testing it a long time ago.

However you are correct that siphons from items dont work in shroud (runes, food, sigils etc.).

There was a time I also thought it did. Maybe I was imagining it. More recently I’ve noticed that either I’m not getting any healing or the bolts are just missing every target.

I did a little research and found this thread

Crinn.7864:

They specifically patched the leeching bolts caused by whirl finishers to apply healing through shroud. This was done in January of 2016.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/updates/Game-Update-Notes-January-26-2016/first
(scroll to the necromancer section on the first post)

Oh much thanks. So i guess my bolts just never hit anything and that other thread is way out of date. Thx

TheDevice.2751:

Crinn.7864:

They specifically patched the leeching bolts caused by whirl finishers to apply healing through shroud. This was done in January of 2016.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/updates/Game-Update-Notes-January-26-2016/first
(scroll to the necromancer section on the first post)

Oh much thanks. So i guess my bolts just never hit anything and that other thread is way out of date. Thx

Please note that your HP must be below 100% for you to get any green healing flytext.

The bolts dolts do heal you but they don’t count as incoming or outgoing healing so do not show in the combat log. If you do whirl in a dark field you will see random 170’s pop up. They are almost impossible to see if you sue blood magic or a build heavily utilising blighters boon and spite might generation

theres nothing more frustrating than executing water leap finisher in shroud