Introducing the conditionmancer (tutorial)

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Posted by: Nemesis.8593

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After 4 days without internet… pipes exploding in the walls and other real life complications… i give you… the “conditionmancer” (i apologize for the delays). I also want to thank you guys for your continuous support and appreciation. Without further ado…. here it is

Guild Wars 2 – Introducing the conditionmancer (tutorial)

This video includes building up the conditionmancer – weapons, stats, items, skills, utilities, traits and an example of it’s effectiveness… i think you guys will be pleased with this one…

As always… all of these explained in detail with the reasoning behind each decision.

FINAL STATS:

“???” Attack – irrelevant
1710 Condition damage
133% Bleeding duration
50% Critical strike chance
2603 Armor
~ 21,822 Health
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+ the ability to support your party while doing maximum damage
+ high passive healing

If i missed anything or if you have any questions feel free to comment here, on in the comment section on youtube.

PS: this build is important because the gear/items used in this PvE build will be used in the WvW dedicated build as well. The traits and one utility will be all that will change in the upcoming build… so stay tuned.

Enjoy

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Posted by: Psynocide.4965

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Strikingly similar to my own independent build.
However, I’ve traited 0/30/20/20/0 as the staff is quite good in conjunction with a sceptre/dagger if you need a quick burst of conditions and the traits you can obtain in the death magic tree for staves are brilliant. Also, I find the health siphons to be lackluster to say the least.
I would argue that, even though bleed duration is paramount, it’s not worth sacrificing that extra condition damage from a full set of afflicted/undead runes, as such I use a sigil of agony in my off-hand – total 45% passive bleed duration + 40% from nourishment + 33% from sceptre passive = 118% with 127 more condition damage – having put the corruption stacking sigil in my staff.

Still, a good guide for budding necromancers that are looking for an alternative.

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Posted by: TheAgedGnome.7520

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Very instructive video, as always. I was wondering about crit chance in this build. Since it is used to proc (such as Barbed Precision), it seemed to me that going higher than 50% would just improve that proc rate linearly and so also improve DPS linearly. Does this make sense?

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Very instructive video, as always. I was wondering about crit chance in this build. Since it is used to proc (such as Barbed Precision), it seemed to me that going higher than 50% would just improve that proc rate linearly and so also improve DPS linearly. Does this make sense?

For Barbed Precision it should, but not for the Bleed Sigil, which is actually the much better proc, but which you are going to start getting diminishing returns from the 2 second cooldown if you are critting constantly.

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Posted by: TheAgedGnome.7520

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Very instructive video, as always. I was wondering about crit chance in this build. Since it is used to proc (such as Barbed Precision), it seemed to me that going higher than 50% would just improve that proc rate linearly and so also improve DPS linearly. Does this make sense?

For Barbed Precision it should, but not for the Bleed Sigil, which is actually the much better proc, but which you are going to start getting diminishing returns from the 2 second cooldown if you are critting constantly.

Ah yes, ICDs…good point. Thanks.

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Posted by: Philfy.8925

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Can this be achieved with gear available in the trading post?

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Posted by: XiL.4318

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Maximum damage comes from a combination of conditions and power. Pure conditions is a self imposed nerf.

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Posted by: Psynocide.4965

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Maximum damage comes from a combination of conditions and power. Pure conditions is a self imposed nerf.

Not really.

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Posted by: Sidewinder.2047

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Maximum damage comes from a combination of conditions and power. Pure conditions is a self imposed nerf.

I think Nemesis meant condition damage when he says “…while doing maximum damage”- it maximizes the potential for condition damage while providing party support and passive healing.
Oh, he knows about the condition-power hybrid. He posted “The ultimate necromancer dmg-hybrid(tutorial)”.

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Posted by: XiL.4318

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Maximum damage comes from a combination of conditions and power. Pure conditions is a self imposed nerf.

I think Nemesis meant condition damage when he says “…while doing maximum damage”- it maximizes the potential for condition damage while providing party support and passive healing.
Oh, he knows about the condition-power hybrid. He posted “The ultimate necromancer dmg-hybrid(tutorial)”.

Oh I know. I post for people those masses of lurkers that might see the forums once a month.

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Posted by: Nemesis.8593

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Very instructive video, as always. I was wondering about crit chance in this build. Since it is used to proc (such as Barbed Precision), it seemed to me that going higher than 50% would just improve that proc rate linearly and so also improve DPS linearly. Does this make sense?

For Barbed Precision it should, but not for the Bleed Sigil, which is actually the much better proc, but which you are going to start getting diminishing returns from the 2 second cooldown if you are critting constantly.

Ah yes, ICDs…good point. Thanks.

Exactly.

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Can this be achieved with gear available in the trading post?

I think you PMed me and i already answered you. In any case, i have yet to see an armor set with precision, toughness, condition damage on the trading post. I have also spend some time on guild wars 2 DB/wiki with no success. There is a 1% chance that i simply missed it, but i don’t think so.

The earnings, necklace, rings and weapons can be found on the trading post, but the armor set not so much.

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Posted by: Nemesis.8593

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Maximum damage comes from a combination of conditions and power. Pure conditions is a self imposed nerf.

Sometimes people like to play conditions only, and since damage isn’t everything… the amount of extra damage you lose is compensated by the high survivability + party support. Some people find that trade off more then worth it.

But for people that like to go full on damage, i have the hybrid build made already, on youtube… it is my favorite as well.

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Posted by: Nemesis.8593

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Maximum damage comes from a combination of conditions and power. Pure conditions is a self imposed nerf.

I think Nemesis meant condition damage when he says “…while doing maximum damage”- it maximizes the potential for condition damage while providing party support and passive healing.
Oh, he knows about the condition-power hybrid. He posted “The ultimate necromancer dmg-hybrid(tutorial)”.

A… didn’t saw you wrote this until a few seconds later, yeah exactly…

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Posted by: ummaner.5016

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Hi Nemesis,

I was wondering if you considered the Rune of the Undead instead of the Three Dual -Runes you use in this build. In my theory, you’ll have +100% Duration Bleed ‘only’ but kill stuff quicker no (because you gain +20% DPS on ALL condition you apply)?

If my calculation is correct, having +45% Duration Bleed on only your own bleed seems less effective than having +400 Condition Dommage from the rune ? Im missing something ?

Of course on a dungeon or on a heavy life mob and on a solo point of view your choice is better. But in a group fight or in McM, Epidemic will benefit more by the Rune of the Undead because you don’t need to put the condition yourself (or have time to do so) on the target to gain the benefit of Epidemic.

Can I have your opinion please ?

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Posted by: Nemesis.8593

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I have updated the video’s description to include the new best in slot items that have been recently released, and i also included a cheap alternative until you can acquire those items…

ps: better links this time, some of the old ones weren’t working anymore…

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Posted by: Anchoku.8142

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Nemesis, do you have any comments on a chillomancer build for less damage but more group support? I found I can keep chill up almost continuously with some cheap runes while swapping weapons and using chill-on-blind but have no recorded dungeon runs, yet. Theoretically, chilling a group of mobs and using Epidemic on them can reduce incoming damage for everyone without having to handicap a conditionmancer build too much but I have no data to support it.

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Posted by: Brando.1374

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Can this be achieved with gear available in the trading post?

I think you PMed me and i already answered you. In any case, i have yet to see an armor set with precision, toughness, condition damage on the trading post. I have also spend some time on guild wars 2 DB/wiki with no success. There is a 1% chance that i simply missed it, but i don’t think so.

The earnings, necklace, rings and weapons can be found on the trading post, but the armor set not so much.

Khilbron’s armor is Condition, Precision, Toughness and can be bought on the TP for anywhere from 5g-15g a piece

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