Is anyone still seriously playing Necro?

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Posted by: InfectionX.8745

InfectionX.8745

I know that question may offend someone, but it’s an honest question.

All builds have sub par DPS in PVE, and very little utility.

With the recent bumps to other classes the glassiness is unforgiving in WvW. Tie that in with no mobility,very little stab, and weak DPS. Ping pong,ping pong, snared,stunned,dead.

So for pvp:
Condi Cleanse > Condi Build
Dodge > Power Wells
NO DPS & Bugged AI > MM

So, uh, am I missing something here?

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Posted by: ButterOfDeath.2873

ButterOfDeath.2873

Necros believe they’re so skilled that they need to handicap themselves to give opponents a fair chance of winning.

…Yeah, i’m obviously joking.

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Posted by: leman.7682

leman.7682

It’s because necro’s design is largely incompatibile with the dynamics of the game’s combat system. I’m beginning to understand that most of the balance suggestions are pointless because they are never going to fix that problem and a full rework of some weapons/mechanics is needed.

Leman

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Posted by: Tommyknocker.6089

Tommyknocker.6089

I still do. My necro is a particularly tanky (death/blood and soul) well bomber in WvW and it works quite well. My damage output is not as good as it once was with the ferocity nerf (ferocity used to increased with soul reaping) but I can survive well enough with it.

For everything else I use other classes more suitable to the content.

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Posted by: Dirame.8521

Dirame.8521

In PvE, the only thing the Necro needs is an AoE pull and they are getting that soon. Once that hits, it’s all hell and footnotes for enemies that walk the Necro’s way.

I make guides to builds you may not have heard of;
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Posted by: Silverkey.2078

Silverkey.2078

Well the one positive thing is
necro > condi cleanse (either “take that back in your face” or “yumm thanks for the boons”)
you just need to hope for a burn guardian or a condi engineer to attack you…

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Posted by: Ragnar the Rock.3174

Ragnar the Rock.3174

It’s because necro’s design is largely incompatibile with the dynamics of the game’s combat system. I’m beginning to understand that most of the balance suggestions are pointless because they are never going to fix that problem and a full rework of some weapons/mechanics is needed.

This^.

In order to really fix the necro they would have to

1: Make life force generation more static like energy or adrenaline.

2: Make life force start at 50% when you spawn and slowly return to 50% outside of combat.

3: Redesign shroud into f1-f5 skills with each consuming life force to do different actions.

4: After 1-3 they can then add real boons & support to the class because they will no longer have a broken design to work with and can no longer rely on the “second life bar” argument not to do things.

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Posted by: Arche.7326

Arche.7326

I’m playing it, I’m not the best, but I try. Mainly because I’m stubborn as a mule and because I love the “Dark mage archetype” in games. Then there’s the fact that Anet is doing a sloppy work in balancing their game, which if anything, makes me want to switch game, not profession.

Gee, thanks, you let the reaper out of the basement.

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Posted by: nekretaal.6485

nekretaal.6485

I got stuck in solo Q on courtyard with team of three necromancers.

Necromancer is normally terrible on courtyard due to pirate ship meta, feeble ranged damage & no ranged defenses (and no way to disengage or stop disengage). But I saw an opening: no staff ele on opposing team. So I told my teammate Neromancers:

“Ball up because we are going to rush them by chaining plague form”. And that’s what we did, dropping wells on every downed enemy.

You just have to live for the small things.

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Posted by: Lynnie.7213

Lynnie.7213

I still play my necro and its my main.
I do all kind of gamemodes with it. I’ll be posting the builds i use for each mode and that may help, i don’t know. We can still do pretty well if played correctly and carefully.

PVE: http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Necromancer_-_DS_Shredder
PVP: http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Necromancer_-_Celestial_Signet
WvW: http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Necromancer_-_Signet_Roamer

Here you got some WvW videos as well, may help, i don’t know.

https://www.youtube.com/donee

D O N E E
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http://www.youtube.com/donee

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Posted by: Tommyknocker.6089

Tommyknocker.6089

I still play my necro and its my main.
I do all kind of gamemodes with it. I’ll be posting the builds i use for each mode and that may help, i don’t know. We can still do pretty well if played correctly and carefully.

PVE: http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Necromancer_-_DS_Shredder
PVP: http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Necromancer_-_Celestial_Signet
WvW: http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Necromancer_-_Signet_Roamer

Here you got some WvW videos as well, may help, i don’t know.

https://www.youtube.com/donee

Unfortunately not all of us are in the 1%. I myself wasn’t sold on the necro for the burst, nor for the high end condi; I was sold on it being an attrition class as was originally advertised. I am well aware that a few players are godlike with a necro; although top end PVP teams seem to get by well enough without them. IMO if you are making an entire class only be a beast in the hands of the very few, it is a waste of a class (dev time) and anet would do wise to listen to the other 99% of us.

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Posted by: Tongku.5326

Tongku.5326

I know that question may offend someone, but it’s an honest question.

All builds have sub par DPS in PVE, and very little utility.

With the recent bumps to other classes the glassiness is unforgiving in WvW. Tie that in with no mobility,very little stab, and weak DPS. Ping pong,ping pong, snared,stunned,dead.

So for pvp:
Condi Cleanse > Condi Build
Dodge > Power Wells
NO DPS & Bugged AI > MM

So, uh, am I missing something here?

My necro is still very good in SPVP and decent in WvW. Though I mostly stopped playing it due to lack of PvE viability as compared to my other toons.

I also almost stopped playing my mesmer, cause so sick and tired of power builds on it. And believe it or not, condi mesmers are even worse in PvE then necros by leaps and bounds. Both are good at PvP and WvW, but PvE condi mesmers are at about 50%-60% current effectiveness of condi necros, it really is that bad. Yea, I know that unlike necros I have power build options, but like I said, bored to tears with that, so they arent really options.

All other professions do good or very good in PvE on condi builds and condi hybrids. My engi takes the cake here by far, followed by ele, then guardian, then war / thief about equal. I was really surprised how strong condi eles and condi guards can be now.

I do not play ranger so can’t comment or compare on that.

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Posted by: Silverkey.2078

Silverkey.2078

Out of subject but actually condi mesmers are reasonable thanks to massive bleeding from our phantasmal duelist (with sharper image and duelists discipline traits). We can stack about 40 bleeds. Sure confusion and torment are lacklusters in PvE, but well..

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Posted by: Lynnie.7213

Lynnie.7213

I still play my necro and its my main.
I do all kind of gamemodes with it. I’ll be posting the builds i use for each mode and that may help, i don’t know. We can still do pretty well if played correctly and carefully.

PVE: http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Necromancer_-_DS_Shredder
PVP: http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Necromancer_-_Celestial_Signet
WvW: http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Necromancer_-_Signet_Roamer

Here you got some WvW videos as well, may help, i don’t know.

https://www.youtube.com/donee

Unfortunately not all of us are in the 1%. I myself wasn’t sold on the necro for the burst, nor for the high end condi; I was sold on it being an attrition class as was originally advertised. I am well aware that a few players are godlike with a necro; although top end PVP teams seem to get by well enough without them. IMO if you are making an entire class only be a beast in the hands of the very few, it is a waste of a class (dev time) and anet would do wise to listen to the other 99% of us.

I understand what you said and agree.They should take a closer look at our class, but what i am trying to do is help the ones who still are trying to fit.

D O N E E
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Posted by: milo.7198

milo.7198

After spending the first year playing around with all the classes, i’ve spent the last 2 maining my necro. I still maintain it as my main character.

I pvp, wvw and pve. I guess if i was a number cruncher, i would be distressed by the entire game. Every class forum is screaming about dps nerfs and broken synergies. All the other forums are complaining about how the other classes do this and that better and poor us. I have an opinion that, but not real answers.

I still have fun with my necro. I plan on continuing to use my necro as my main character. For me it is still fun. I haven’t noticed that much of a difference it kill time for my build and the way i play it.

Maybe i like being an underdog, overcoming the odds and triumphing while having less than others. Maybe I’m just a glutton for punishment. I Do know this, I feel a lot better when content is challenging and i beat it, whether vs computer ai or real person. I still find it challenging on my necro.

My build is not significantly different from pre-patch. No, it doesn’t kill as fast as everyone else. I’m ok with that. The class was designed to defeat opponents by whittling them down. It takes more patience and sometimes more skill to play that way and it is not for everyone. I admit, it really doesn’t fit with dps heavy system that exists in GW, but it is what it is. All we can do is give feed back to the devs and hope they can iron it out, or stop playing.

That being said, I have noticed that in the world boss fights and other such huge events, i cannot seem to tag mobs hard enough, a lot of the time, to get loot drops anymore. Or if i do, they are usually silver rewards. In small groups, 20 or less, i get gold every time.

If you are still reading this, thank you for your patience. That is my Opinion on the situation. I’m not a hardcore number cruncher. I play this game for fun. For the way i play, it is still fun. EVERYONE will have different experiences and desires for and from the game. These are just mine.

And yes, I still seriously play my necro. Out of all the professions available to play, so far, it fits my play style the best and i have the most fun with it.

my 2 cents.

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Posted by: Rym.1469

Rym.1469

I don’t know what you mean by “seriously playing”.

If you ask me if I stopped playing PvP in teams for rankings, armor boxes, etc. yes I did long time ago.

But I still enjoy playing it, since that’s my main profession.

And honestly, I couldn’t care less about WvW zerging or current so called “PvE” spelled “speedruning broken, boring, easy and 3 year old dungeons”.

I had a lot of fun doing PvE in Queen’s Gauntlet and finishing all achievements on my Necromancer, though. It was viable there.

I’m primarly concerned about PvP.

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Posted by: Nyth.3492

Nyth.3492

It’s because necro’s design is largely incompatibile with the dynamics of the game’s combat system. I’m beginning to understand that most of the balance suggestions are pointless because they are never going to fix that problem and a full rework of some weapons/mechanics is needed.

This so much.

The necromancer’s kit is lacking in a lot of ways and needs some revision; but I think the biggest issue is that most of the combat systems and encounters are just completely anti-necro by design.

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Posted by: Lightsbane.9012

Lightsbane.9012

In PvE, the only thing the Necro needs is an AoE pull and they are getting that soon. Once that hits, it’s all hell and footnotes for enemies that walk the Necro’s way.

except the ones with blinks.

As quick as the Valkyries ride,
As true as Odin’s spear flies,
There is nowhere to hide.

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Posted by: SpellOfIniquity.1780

SpellOfIniquity.1780

Because this is a video game? Video game translates to entertainment. And entertainment translates to having fun. I have the most fun on my Necromancer. I don’t play Gw2 like it’s a world cup sport. If it’s sub-par, so be it. It’s not going to make the fun I have on it any less valid. And I still kick peoples as_es regardless so I’m doing something right.

Necromancer, Ranger, Warrior, Engineer
Champion: Phantom, Hunter, Legionnaire, Genius
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Posted by: nearlight.3064

nearlight.3064

The cele signet build is actually really good. Think of it as a highly survivable power build with no wells. Its by far the best teamfight build because the damage is really good due to spite lines easy access might stacking.

It still gets wrecked by focus fire and can’t disengage, but in the scenarios where it doesn’t have to do that, it really shines.

Necromancer Main
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Posted by: Azure.8670

Azure.8670

I know that question may offend someone, but it’s an honest question.

All builds have sub par DPS in PVE, and very little utility.

With the recent bumps to other classes the glassiness is unforgiving in WvW. Tie that in with no mobility,very little stab, and weak DPS. Ping pong,ping pong, snared,stunned,dead.

So for pvp:
Condi Cleanse > Condi Build
Dodge > Power Wells
NO DPS & Bugged AI > MM

So, uh, am I missing something here?

My necro is still very good in SPVP and decent in WvW. Though I mostly stopped playing it due to lack of PvE viability as compared to my other toons.

I also almost stopped playing my mesmer, cause so sick and tired of power builds on it. And believe it or not, condi mesmers are even worse in PvE then necros by leaps and bounds. Both are good at PvP and WvW, but PvE condi mesmers are at about 50%-60% current effectiveness of condi necros, it really is that bad. Yea, I know that unlike necros I have power build options, but like I said, bored to tears with that, so they arent really options.

All other professions do good or very good in PvE on condi builds and condi hybrids. My engi takes the cake here by far, followed by ele, then guardian, then war / thief about equal. I was really surprised how strong condi eles and condi guards can be now.

I do not play ranger so can’t comment or compare on that.

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Posted by: Relshdan.6854

Relshdan.6854

not seriously, but for soloing open world (boss vets/champs/events w/ lots of mobs) i find a spite/death/blood MM w/ zealot gear to be the easiest of all the classes. its basically invincible….maintaining scholar rune bonus + your minions’ health is pretty easy….so the actual damage you do is pretty decent.

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Posted by: Mia Crazymike.1780

Mia Crazymike.1780

I’m pretty sure Necromancers aren’t that bad anymore. We can all agree the profession is in a much better state.

Rangers are the new losers, inferior, outdated profession.

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Posted by: Arche.7326

Arche.7326

I’m pretty sure Necromancers aren’t that bad anymore. We can all agree the profession is in a much better state.

Rangers are the new losers, inferior, outdated profession.

It is in a slightly better state, but none of our core issues has been adressed and we are still getting nerfs. We are still utter kitten in most aspects and has been so since release. Rangers are also kicked on but I feel like they over all are in a better state than Necros (not that neither is in a good state).

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Posted by: CodeHavoc.7926

CodeHavoc.7926

Been main necro since early 2013. No number of “nerfs” will keep me away from this class. Is it bottom tier in terms of overall damage? Yes. Does it still need some work? Yes. Out of all the classes necro is my favorite.

Necro Jesus is a thing apparently
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Posted by: Dr Acula.3496

Dr Acula.3496

Necro is by far my favorite class, and pretty much all I play.

And all I do is strictly PvP/WvW.

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Posted by: States.6387

States.6387

I used to main my necro with a spectral tank build. But due to the changes in traits that completely removed this option i have lost all desire to even use my necro anymore. He doesnt seem as tanky as he used to be and if you do spec into a tank build the damage is a lot lower it seems like than the old tank builds.

What sucks even more is my alt i played was a ranger which is doing better than necro imo but also doing a lot worse than before.

I definitely chose the wrong classes to main / gear up in this game o_o

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Posted by: Dr Acula.3496

Dr Acula.3496

I used to main my necro with a spectral tank build. But due to the changes in traits that completely removed this option i have lost all desire to even use my necro anymore. He doesnt seem as tanky as he used to be and if you do spec into a tank build the damage is a lot lower it seems like than the old tank builds.

What sucks even more is my alt i played was a ranger which is doing better than necro imo but also doing a lot worse than before.

I definitely chose the wrong classes to main / gear up in this game o_o

Try changing your build up a bit? I dunno lol, I know I had to completely revamp my build after the patch

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Posted by: States.6387

States.6387

I used to main my necro with a spectral tank build. But due to the changes in traits that completely removed this option i have lost all desire to even use my necro anymore. He doesnt seem as tanky as he used to be and if you do spec into a tank build the damage is a lot lower it seems like than the old tank builds.

What sucks even more is my alt i played was a ranger which is doing better than necro imo but also doing a lot worse than before.

I definitely chose the wrong classes to main / gear up in this game o_o

Try changing your build up a bit? I dunno lol, I know I had to completely revamp my build after the patch

I already did but none of the builds for necro we can do now amount to the previous spectral tank. I cant face tank a group of players anymore without getting dropped pretty quick and the dps potential on all the tank builds is pretty low. Aside from that i enjoyed the tanky gameplay with D/D that didnt require minions or conditions. It seems now that to achieve a “high” tanky build you would have to utilize both of those.

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Posted by: nearlight.3064

nearlight.3064

I used to main my necro with a spectral tank build. But due to the changes in traits that completely removed this option i have lost all desire to even use my necro anymore. He doesnt seem as tanky as he used to be and if you do spec into a tank build the damage is a lot lower it seems like than the old tank builds.

What sucks even more is my alt i played was a ranger which is doing better than necro imo but also doing a lot worse than before.

I definitely chose the wrong classes to main / gear up in this game o_o

Try changing your build up a bit? I dunno lol, I know I had to completely revamp my build after the patch

I already did but none of the builds for necro we can do now amount to the previous spectral tank. I cant face tank a group of players anymore without getting dropped pretty quick and the dps potential on all the tank builds is pretty low. Aside from that i enjoyed the tanky gameplay with D/D that didnt require minions or conditions. It seems now that to achieve a “high” tanky build you would have to utilize both of those.

I’ve been posting this alot, but try the cele signet build, but maybe modify it with death or blood to be tankier. Celestial or soliders is the only way to get necros to be actually tanky but not hit like an origami swan.

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Posted by: Dirame.8521

Dirame.8521

In PvE, the only thing the Necro needs is an AoE pull and they are getting that soon. Once that hits, it’s all hell and footnotes for enemies that walk the Necro’s way.

except the ones with blinks.

Which NPC mob has blinks and actively uses it to blink away from you? Because I’d like to see that mob so I can congratulate Anet for creating good enemy ai.

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Posted by: Infect.2738

Infect.2738

oh hi there

“this message was too short”

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Posted by: elvina.8917

elvina.8917

I’ve been playing necro for a year. In PvP it’s better than most of other professions, except mesmers. I have problem with thieves, but maybe it’s about my low skill :P So don’t tell me necro is bad. It is bad in PvE only
PS. Maybe in WvW as well, but idk, I don’t play WvW.

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Posted by: Akuni.8604

Akuni.8604

I still love playing Necro, I even own two lvl 80 Necros from pre Tome-times :p

It looks like every patch has one or more necro nerfs those days but I’m actually hoping reaper will balance it out. After all, those traits still pack quite a punch.
However, it’s not really okay if you’re forced into Reaper because Reaper is okay and base Necro is not. They really need to do some adjustments there.
Leman got it there: Necro needs skillrevamps. Axe comes to mind. Minion AI. General lifeforce generation on skills and so on. Sadly they won’t do that until maybe in 3 years because it’s too much work… And because they are busy with their pizzaparty.

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Posted by: Teratus.2859

Teratus.2859

I have two Necromancers running different builds

One I play purely in PvE because i just enjoy the build and playstyle
and the other I run in PvE, PvP and WvW with the exact same build and its a kitten monster

So yeah I still run necro and yea its still one of my favorite classes
and imo the reason people don’t like Necro is because they simply can’t play one lol

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Posted by: elvina.8917

elvina.8917

So yeah I still run necro and yea its still one of my favorite classes
and imo the reason people don’t like Necro is because they simply can’t play one lol

Exactly

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Posted by: GreyWraith.8394

GreyWraith.8394

So yeah I still run necro and yea its still one of my favorite classes
and imo the reason people don’t like Necro is because they simply can’t play one lol

Exactly

Ah, the old “people who disagree with me should L2P” argument. Sloppy thinking.

The fact that necros can be fun and situationally powerful does not alter the fact that the class has serious design flaws.

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Posted by: ChapDev.7650

ChapDev.7650

I still play Necromancer but I don’t play as much/often as I used to.

I don’t solo-roam anymore and I will rarely go into sPvP unless someone I know who doesn’t really care about rankings/winning is forming a party, That isn’t to say I don’t think I could hold my own because I’m Necromancer but if they are going super serious with it I’d rather not take up a slot better gifted to another player/profession more suited to the job.

And PvE well you can still PvE you just can’t speed through it like some others but then you don’t need to either so sometimes I’ll still go Silverwastes or whatever. ~.~

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Posted by: Marthkus.4615

Marthkus.4615

I like having 53K+ health 3.4K armor and 3000+ power (without might stacks)

It’s my go to class for new content or whenever I can’t be kitten d to “speed run”, or whenever I want to run a class that doesn’t die when “other players are noobs”.

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Posted by: Tommyknocker.6089

Tommyknocker.6089

I like having 53K+ health 3.4K armor and 3000+ power (without might stacks)

It’s my go to class for new content or whenever I can’t be kitten d to “speed run”, or whenever I want to run a class that doesn’t die when “other players are noobs”.

Care to share your build? This sounds like something I would like to try.

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Posted by: Typhron.2318

Typhron.2318

So yeah I still run necro and yea its still one of my favorite classes
and imo the reason people don’t like Necro is because they simply can’t play one lol

Exactly

Sloppy thinking.

Sadly, the strawmen have a point.

It would help if people stop expecting the necro to do great damage at ranged. That’s like trying to use Mesmer greatswords in melee. You’d think that’s how it’d be, but no.

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Posted by: Valvador.4291

Valvador.4291

Do we have any Necro competitive players on Twitch right now? Most teams seem to have Engineers, Guardians, Thieves, Eles.

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Posted by: nearlight.3064

nearlight.3064

Do we have any Necro competitive players on Twitch right now? Most teams seem to have Engineers, Guardians, Thieves, Eles.

Noscoc is the primary necro streamer that you will see right now. He’s the most active necro pvp player and on the top team in NA.

Zombify used to stream a lot but he hasn’t been as active recently, although he is a very a good player.

Necromancer Main
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Nintendo games..

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Posted by: Marthkus.4615

Marthkus.4615

I like having 53K+ health 3.4K armor and 3000+ power (without might stacks)

It’s my go to class for new content or whenever I can’t be kitten d to “speed run”, or whenever I want to run a class that doesn’t die when “other players are noobs”.

Care to share your build? This sounds like something I would like to try.

I believe it is death 2 3 2, blood 2 3 1, Soul Reaping 1 2 2, Bloodlust plus force sigals, brawler armor runes, D/D. All Soldiers gear. I run 4 wells and lich form. Spend most of my time in death shroud.

The death line adds 480 toughness with traits and turns 14% of all toughness to power while in death shroud.

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Posted by: Teratus.2859

Teratus.2859

Ah, the old “people who disagree with me should L2P” argument. Sloppy thinking.

The fact that necros can be fun and situationally powerful does not alter the fact that the class has serious design flaws.

All classes have their strengths and weaknesses hence the point of even having different classes in a mmo

learning to play a class is the most basic of things you need to learn how to do

you can’t just slap zerker stats on everything and start hitting things and totaling up the dps then define a whole class by that..

No.. Necros don’t do as much raw DPS as say a Warrior with HB.. and they are not ment to.. if they did then what would even be the point of them even being different classes with different playstyles and traits..

Necros have issues.. sure every class does but people who say they have no point, purpose or use in the game are severely ignorant

and most of the time regardless of build the Necro will be the last one standing because of death shrowd

Necro is the only class that can epidemic conditions
Necro is the only class that can counter Bleed out
Necro is the only class that can Pull downed players out of AOE to revive them
Necro is the only class that can give party wide Life Siphon
Necros have a lot of access to control skills such as fear, cripple, chill, imobalize, poison.. they even have teleport and easier access to stun breakers now
Necros slow condi stacking has been countered through new reworked corruption mechanics
Necros have access to plenty of condition manipulation such as purging the party of conditions and corrupting enemy boons into conditions
and if im not mistaken Necros also have the most access to Condition transfer as well
and I know for a fact that Necros can also now self buff and sustain 25 stacks of might..

So yeah.. when people rip on Necros as a useless class.. I beg to differ and frankly all of the arguments I see are more often than not based on peoples lacking knowledge or skill playing the class..
some people just want the Necro to be something else.. something similar to thier playstyle they like to play with their warriors and their thieves etc..
doesnt work that way and the Necro is its own thing with its own strengths and I for one love it for what it is and how it works

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Posted by: butch.8136

butch.8136

I’m having more fun on my necro and feel that I have more playstyle options since the big patch.
Playing support necro in PvP these days. Positive winrate.

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Posted by: xadine.7069

xadine.7069

Teratus: I agree with pretty much everything you said. BUT, I’ll only talk for PvE content since I haven’t done PvP nor WvW for a long time, atm the strength of the necro have few impact on the game.

In dungeons, pure DPS is always better than condi. Condi removal is rarely needed. Control on a boss isn’t really efficient. Healing your allies… well atm it’s rarely needed.

That being said, I’m convince that a good necro player with a good team always find his place in dungeons and prove his efficiency. As I told in another topic, I used to run fractal 50+ daily (before the FotM rework, and 50 after it) with a team 2 nec, 1 guard, 1 rang, 1 mes and we had no problem doing faster than most pu party I’ve try.

Also, I’m thinking that HoT will introduce a lot of new meta build and condi/CC will be very appreciated.

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Posted by: Falcon.8713

Falcon.8713

I am, playing necro is easy, you just need to put more effort in combos & awareness instead of facerolling over your keyboard. The Necromancer isn’t broken. It’s just harder to play in soloq situations, but better rewarded in team based comps (if you don’t suck at the class like 4/5 of the necros you face in EU).

Next to that, PvE sucks kitten after 2 years playing against the same AI mobs.

My necromancer got upgraded to a scythe-wielding maniac.. I like it.

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Posted by: Falcon.8713

Falcon.8713

Ah, the old “people who disagree with me should L2P” argument. Sloppy thinking.

The fact that necros can be fun and situationally powerful does not alter the fact that the class has serious design flaws.

All classes have their strengths and weaknesses hence the point of even having different classes in a mmo

learning to play a class is the most basic of things you need to learn how to do

you can’t just slap zerker stats on everything and start hitting things and totaling up the dps then define a whole class by that..

No.. Necros don’t do as much raw DPS as say a Warrior with HB.. and they are not ment to.. if they did then what would even be the point of them even being different classes with different playstyles and traits..

Necros have issues.. sure every class does but people who say they have no point, purpose or use in the game are severely ignorant

and most of the time regardless of build the Necro will be the last one standing because of death shrowd

Necro is the only class that can epidemic conditions
Necro is the only class that can counter Bleed out
Necro is the only class that can Pull downed players out of AOE to revive them
Necro is the only class that can give party wide Life Siphon
Necros have a lot of access to control skills such as fear, cripple, chill, imobalize, poison.. they even have teleport and easier access to stun breakers now
Necros slow condi stacking has been countered through new reworked corruption mechanics
Necros have access to plenty of condition manipulation such as purging the party of conditions and corrupting enemy boons into conditions
and if im not mistaken Necros also have the most access to Condition transfer as well
and I know for a fact that Necros can also now self buff and sustain 25 stacks of might..

So yeah.. when people rip on Necros as a useless class.. I beg to differ and frankly all of the arguments I see are more often than not based on peoples lacking knowledge or skill playing the class..
some people just want the Necro to be something else.. something similar to thier playstyle they like to play with their warriors and their thieves etc..
doesnt work that way and the Necro is its own thing with its own strengths and I for one love it for what it is and how it works

Thanks for typing everything out when I was too lazy to.
+ 50% weakness uptime
+ Awesome boon removal
+ Zerker Wellomancers are perfect for downstate target cleaving

My necromancer got upgraded to a scythe-wielding maniac.. I like it.

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Posted by: gavyne.6847

gavyne.6847

I like my necro, but then I play strictly WvW in group/zerg fights so it’s easy to understand why I’m happy with them. Necros fit in the GWEN meta and has been a part of WvW meta for quite some time now. This isn’t to say some things could be tweaked and improved upon, as certain synergy still isn’t quite there yet.

I do wish they would help necros out in other game modes though.